Harvey Weinstein's "life is ruined..."

[volstork]

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/harvey-weinstein-sexual-abuse-me-too_n_5d80cc77e4b077dcbd6463ef


“No matter what happens to Harvey Weinstein, he will pay the biggest price there is. Even if he wins, Gayle, his whole life has been ruined, toppled, damaged,” Donna Rotunno told “CBS This Morning” host Gayle King in an interview that aired Tuesday. “And whether it’s by his own doing or others, that’s the fact. And the fact is that no matter what we do ― and we can walk out of that courtroom with a ‘not guilty’ and walk him out onto those courtroom steps, and he never gets to be Harvey Weinstein ever again.”

[gratuitous]

1. That must be just awful for him

Oh wait; he ruined his life all by himself, didn't he? Well, there's always a chance he could hook on with the Trump administration.

[Miles Archer]

61. He fucking pardoned ARPAIO. Of COURSE there's a place for Harv.

Trump is like a kid on the day the Sears Christmas Catalog arrived in the mail (for my fellow DUers old enough to remember the joy of that)...

...except instead of dreaming about toys, he swoons over dirtnozzles like Arpaio and Blagojevich and dreams about wielding his mighty pardon pen.

I don't know enough about Harvey to know if he has "said nice things" about Trump, but if he has, there are blue skies ahead.

[meow2u3]

2. Poor widdle serial rapist

My hemorrhoids bleed for him.

Allow me to break out my tiny Stradivarius:

[Leghorn21]

3. Aw crap, and I'm all out of fresh hankies, wanhhhh

[CaptYossarian]

57. Yeah, I'd take out my violin, but he rubbed "Little Harvey" against it and

I can't use it anymore.

[Ilsa]

4. What's that saying?

Oh yeah, "Boo-fucking-hoo."

[Cirque du So-What]

5. "... never gets to be Harvey Weinstein ever again."

Good, because Harvey Weinstein was an incorrigible rapist with no redeeming qualities. Who wants to emulate that?

[volstork]

9. My favorite description of HW:

"He looks like a skin tag wearing a tux."

(Can't remember who said it-- one of the late night TV dudes)

[TexasBushwhacker]

66. On SNL they said

He llooked like chewed gum rolled in cat hair.

[volstork]

67. Gotta say,

that's pretty much spot-on.

[PJMcK]

12. Well, hold on a second

Weinstein is a cad, a rapist and a skank.

Nonetheless, he produced many fantastic films.

I can separate the man from his work. Throughout history, there have been many artists who were despicable people yet we honor their art.

Weinstein should rot in jail but there are films he produced that I still admire. Much the same with Woody Allen and Richard Wagner, the opera composer.

[Me.]

15. And What Might The Women Whose Careers He Ruined Have Created?

[PJMcK]

20. Should his movies be withdrawn?

Again, I hope he dies in jail after serving many, many years.

[lunatica]

25. Not one single time has removing his movies been mentioned

Jesus!

[PJMcK]

35. Well, then what's the point?

Weinstein is caught in the criminal justice system. It's almost impossible for him to escape conviction. He deserves everything he gets.

The poster said that he had no redeeming qualities. While that is true of his personality, it's not true about his movies, many of which were awarded Oscars. My point was clearly stated: it's possible to separate the person from their work. If you can't see that, then a tremendous amount of artistic heritage should be shunned because the creators were scumbags. Is that what you meant?

Jesus! Was it really that hard to follow?

[lunatica]

38. I had no trouble understanding your initial point

It was the successive argument that assumed someone was demanding his movies be withdrawn. No one was doing any such thing, but you wanted to keep arguing about something no one said.

That was and still is my point.

[PJMcK]

42. Okay

From my point of view, we're not in disagreement about Harvey Weinstein. He deserves much punishment.

Peace.

[lunatica]

46. Peace to you too

There are plenty of artists I dislike but that doesn’t apply to their art. I understand that what I call true art is something that stands on its own, completely divorced from the person who created it. That’s why it’s true art. One example is Mel Gibson’s last movie, long after society and he parted ways, is an excellent work of art. The movie is Apocalypto and is about the Maya people just before the Spanish arrived. I recommend it as a stunning visual work of art. He filmed it in the jungles of Yucatán with Mayan descendants.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocalypto

[appalachiablue]

82. I'd never heard of the film, 'Apocalypto' but saw it last year

on cable and was very impressed. Surprising I'd never heard anything about it. Mel, yuck

[JonLP24]

58. I can't watch films once I see the Weinstein name in the opening credits

Most of them are Tarantino films which I don't really like anymore except for Jackie Brown which the screenplay was based on the book Rum Punch. It was the only film I could sit through with Weinstein's name on it.

[lunatica]

63. In time you might be able to ignore his participation

It’s probably too soon right now.

[dogknob]

62. Oh yes it has...

I work at a non-profit, indie cinema in Orange County. We do not play Woody Allen films. We do not play Roman Polanski films (except Chinatown because it's cool). And under no circumstances do we EVER play Miramax films (except The Crow because it just had its 25th anniversary... oh and because it's cool).

We're all part of the same hypocricy.

[Me.]

34. I Refer You To Post #25

should those careers have been destroyed because those women didn't want to be raped?

[PJMcK]

36. Of course not!

And that's a silly observation since Weinstein's movies are already a part of our cultural history.

The women Weinstein abused deserved every measure of Justice they can get. Further, I hope he gets to spend the rest of his life in prison.

Nonetheless, many of his movies are wonderful and one must separate the man from his work. What's the alternative?

[Me.]

49. The Only One Making An Issue Of It Is You

For as far as I can tell no one has suggested any such thing.

[PJMcK]

69. I think you've completely missed my point

Harvey Weinstein is a criminal.

He made some fantastic films.

Those are two different things. One can still enjoy the movies but condemn the man.

Is that understandable?

[Me.]

72. But What Is Your Point

why have you introduced it into the discussion when no one mentioned removing his films, this is a discussion about his assault of women, not his films

[whathehell]

32. So he knew what would sell, so what?

He's a violent, misogynist scumbag.

[PJMcK]

37. And millions of people have been entertained by the films he produced

Is it really that hard to separate the man from his work?

What's the alternative? Throw out his films?

He's a dirtbag who should spend the rest of his days in a 6' X 8' cell contemplating his misguided treatment of women. Is that clear enough?

[whathehell]

60. Yes, and he's been well compensated for his work,.

I don't know why he would be 'owed' more than that.

Is thst clear enough?

[Captain Zero]

83. Don't forget Pee Wee Herman

And his dalliance was with himself ! of course, movie theater not the best place for that.

[Dr. Strange]

6. That's a damn shame.

[leftieNanner]

7. Golly Gee!

How about those women's lives and work that he destroyed? How about those actors who refused his advances so he had them black balled?

What goes around comes around Harv!

[Pachamama]

8. Certainly hope his life is ruined...

That would be the least that should happen to him.

Imagine how he has ruined lives...

[Yavin4]

10. He's a perfect Republican candidate for the SCOTUS

What's the problem?

[PJMcK]

39. Perhaps that he was a Democrat? (n/t)

Check this out:

https://www.businessinsider.com/harvey-weinstein-political-donations-2017-10

Believe me, I am not defending this criminal and serial rapist!

But facts do matter.

[Yavin4]

43. So was Trump. n/t

[PJMcK]

68. Really?!

Did Trump make significant donations to Democrats? I don’t remember that detail.

[Yavin4]

75. Yep. He sure did.

Several Dem candidates in fact.

[Guilded Lilly]

11. He earned it in aces. n/t

[shanti]

13. Poor Baby!

Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

[Me.]

14. Not Others, His Own Doing!

[vlyons]

16. Hey Harvey, welcome to Samsara!

Samsara, ya know, the realm of suffering that Buddha talked so much about. Harvey, in your case, it's the suffering of karma b rought on by you sexual misconduct, self-cherishing, and lack of respect towards women, who are not just pleasure-unit play toys.

But Harvey, you could still make it all worthwhile, by actually being a good person. Surely you must have learned something that would be of benefit tro yourself and others?

[wryter2000]

17. Ya know

I'd take his money and live out a quiet life, bothering no one. Unless he can only feel truly alive if he gets to rape people from time to time.

[lunatica]

41. He will have no choice but to do exactly what you suggest

only he won’t be happy because it really isn’t a choice for him. He is a pariah.

[wryter2000]

52. He's going to prison forever

I don't know who that person was who said his life is ruined if he's acquitted. That's not going to happen. Too many credible victims. He can be down the hall from Bill Cosby.

[lunatica]

53. Like two warts on a toad close.

[MANative]

18. True story - multiple encounters with Harvey Weinstein

My husband is a manager in a national chain store located in a wealthy community in Westchester County, NY. Harvey is a frequent visitor. The first time he came in, hubby wasn't 100% sure it was him until he presented his credit card, which used a slight variation of his name.

Hubby says that other customers are never welcoming or friendly to Mr. W, often openly mocking and sneering at him, and one actually took a photo of him (ankle bracelet included!) with her cellphone. Harvey berated my husband for "allowing that to happen in his store". Hubby says that he told him that he was unable to do anything to change his notoriety. (I thought that was pretty funny!) Harvey then threatened hubby, telling him that he knew the company's CEO, and would hate to have to call him. Hubby reports that he just walked away to help other customers.

Bottom line, in about a dozen interactions, hubby says he absolutely believes every word from HW's accusers as he's shown himself to be a massively entitled bully.

[Brainfodder]

19. Sir, you can end it anytime.

Doubt there would be many complaints, I recommend cremation and scattering in your case.

[hedda_foil]

22. Oh my goodness, I do hope you're not thinking of the Epstein method.

[PJMcK]

40. That's rough (n/t)

[RockRaven]

21. Well given that Harvey Weinstein is a rapist, I sure as hell hope

he "never gets to be Harvey Weinstein again."

[klook]

23. Hoping for some "Hasn't he suffered enough?" sympathy.

I don’t give a shit how much he’s suffering, how much wealth he loses, or how bleak his life looks. He is a rapist and needs to do TIME behind bars!! That’s what I care about.

Fuck Harvey Weinstein and the limousine he rode in in.

[Pacifist Patriot]

24. And who's to blame?

Oh right. Himself. Cry me a river.

[Blue_true]

26. We should crush racists, sexual assaulters and their apologists. nt

[lunatica]

27. He's due for a karmic adjustment so hello karma!

His life, his career, his reputation being ruined and trashed is just about the perfect karmic retribution imaginable. Only he deserves it in full.

[Beringia]

28. These kind of threads really provide comedy relief

[eShirl]

29. He ruined his life.

[Faux pas]

30. Like all the

women he assaulted? It's all about him, kinda like all the bullies and abusers out there.

[mahina]

31. His life was ruined, or he ruined his life?

Rules on the ground changed in his time, true enough, but he knew what he did was wrong and he did it for decades.

This is kind of sickening actually.

[whathehell]

33. He ruined SO many other lives.. Fuck HIM!

[Voltaire2]

44. Dont shit where you eat and don't fuck where you work.

Seems pretty easy.

[Bettie]

45. Boo hoo...

perhaps his life would be not-ruined if he hadn't raped, assaulted, and harassed multiple women.

[Hoyt]

47. Poor pitiful Harvey.

[Vinca]

48. How sad . . . and to think all he had to do was act like a decent human being.

[Initech]

50. Let me find the right amount of fucks to give for Mr Weinstein:

0.

[rampartc]

51. t disagree on the value of weinstein's "art"

if those movies had been produced using the actresses who refused to lay placidly on his casting couch maybe they would be much better movies. we will never know.

Weinstein's "value" to the films he produced was in destroying the careers of the actresses who rejected his tentacles.

[lunatica]

54. He destroyed the ones he successfully forced himself on too.

All you need to know is the story of rape survivors to know this. In many ways it can be just as bad or worse than escaping the rape.

[BadgerMom]

55. Boo-effin'-hoo

[padah513]

56. If the can jail Bill "Mr. Pudding Pops" Cosby

They can jail his ass too!

[marble falls]

59. Same thing could have been said about Charlie Manson. So what? He brought it on himself.

[Takket]

64. thanks for the good news

[Skittles]

65. GOOD

FUCKING PERVERT

[dogknob]

70. Savonarola. Never works. Ever. n/t

[SharonAnn]

71. Good.

[lindysalsagal]

73. Thoughts and prayers

that there really is a hell and he's going there.

[lpbk2713]

74. Yeah? So?

[ConnorMarc]

76. That raping, sexual deviant bastard needs to be UNDER the jail!!

If they can make up laws and break laws to retroactively jail Bill Cosby on old unproven-facts and hearsay they need to certainly jail this PROVEN sexual deviant and molester.

His life won't be "ruined" until this is the case.

[NCLefty]

77. Um..... ok? :D

[PoliticAverse]

78. I can't wait for the movie. n/t

[meadowlander]

79. Well, his net worth is $300 million so fuck him

and also anyone who apologises for him.

[ArtTownsend]

80. WOMP WOMP

[RandySF]

81. He ruined his own life.

[brush]

84. And many others. Fuck him.