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BigDemVoter

(4,150 posts)
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 08:21 PM Sep 2019

Just saw that piece of SHIT, Elaine Chao . .

They played a cllip of her on MSNBC saying that states had "no right" to set their own standards for auto emissions.

That's funny. . . Whoever told her SHE had the right to steer contracts for federal projects to her family's business?

How disgusting. And she is Moscow Mitch's wife.

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Just saw that piece of SHIT, Elaine Chao . . (Original Post) BigDemVoter Sep 2019 OP
Chao. elleng Sep 2019 #1
R's love to mumble about 'State's Rights', but Snarkoleptic Sep 2019 #2
A Republican arguing against "States Rights"? Who'da thunk. marble falls Sep 2019 #3
That's for Red states, not so much for Blue states. tclambert Sep 2019 #9
These are not your average Republicans... dchill Sep 2019 #16
A Republican who doesn't believe in state's rights! Baitball Blogger Sep 2019 #4
I thought repukes were all about STATES RIGHTS Skittles Sep 2019 #5
if you ever watched the movie Gettysburg they pronounce that "States Rats" yaesu Sep 2019 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Sep 2019 #12
They have Rebl2 Sep 2019 #7
This will be a good precedent when the Democratic party Mr.Bill Sep 2019 #8
We've less than two years of Ms. Freeloader, her hubby, and Trump. oasis Sep 2019 #10
Narco princesses are not usually known for their sense of shame sandensea Sep 2019 #11
If she likes how polluted the air is in China. Captain Zero Sep 2019 #13
moscow mitch and moscow witch Marthe48 Sep 2019 #14
+1000 smirkymonkey Sep 2019 #17
Cocaine Chao, BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2019 #15
They are all for states' rights for oppressing minorities IronLionZion Sep 2019 #18
what is her legal basis for that? Takket Sep 2019 #19
I watched the clip where she says 'states have no rights' Aussie105 Sep 2019 #20
this is a facinating tale of how California got its different standards...... Takket Sep 2019 #21
I remember reading about LA smog Marthe48 Sep 2019 #23
Do they still dine in public? Grokenstein Sep 2019 #22

tclambert

(11,085 posts)
9. That's for Red states, not so much for Blue states.
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 09:42 PM
Sep 2019

If Georgia or Alabama want to pass draconian laws aimed at chasing abortion clinics out of their state, that's OK. But if California wants to protect their air and water quality, they are going to see some frowny faces.

Maybe it's actually about people vs. corporations. States can pass laws dictating personal morality, but, golly, don't interfere with business interests.

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Mr.Bill

(24,287 posts)
8. This will be a good precedent when the Democratic party
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 09:38 PM
Sep 2019

takes back the presidency and senate and informs the red states they don't get to make their own gun laws.

oasis

(49,383 posts)
10. We've less than two years of Ms. Freeloader, her hubby, and Trump.
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 09:48 PM
Sep 2019

I'm saving a special champagne to celebrate.

Aussie105

(5,395 posts)
20. I watched the clip where she says 'states have no rights'
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 10:39 PM
Sep 2019

The body language and facial expression clearly says . . . I'm trying a snowjob on you, hoping you are too dumb to notice'.

The historic truth is that California sets the emissions standards high because of past pollution problems, and sets the de facto standards for the rest of the US due to the size of the Californian market.
No auto maker would produce a 'California only' model, they adopt the Californian standards across the US, and large parts of the global market.

Elaine is fighting a losing battle on that front. Sucks to be her. Pushing that line, who she is married to . . . sad sister, double loser, bigly sad!

Auto makers will ignore her.

Takket

(21,565 posts)
21. this is a facinating tale of how California got its different standards......
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 10:50 PM
Sep 2019

it was championed by states rights republicans, fought for by conservative hero Ronald Reagan, SPECIFICALLY granted to them by exemption to FEDERAL law............. and now Chao, who i'm sure knows NOTHING of any of this, says they have no right to do it.

Even implying California went off "all on its own" to do this is WRONG. the Feds GAVE them the right to do so.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-09-21/california-emissions-waiver-was-won-by-ronald-reagan

Donald Trump just declared war on California’s longstanding ability to set its own clean air standards, which often exceed those set by Washington. But the obscure, little-appreciated history of this particular provision doubles as a warning to Republicans: The forces that drive states’ rights coalitions can prove painfully unpredictable.

Los Angeles is something of a geographical freak of nature: It lies at the bottom of an enormous inverted bowl surrounded on three sides by mountains. The fourth side faces the Pacific Ocean. Unlike most coastal cities, Los Angeles gets little wind, and cooler air close to the ground gets trapped in the bottom of the “bowl.”

This effect was noticeable as early as the 16th century: Smoke from Indian campfires remained trapped in the area, prompting one Spanish explorer to dub nearby San Pedro Bay the “Bay of Smokes.” When Los Angelinos started driving a few centuries later, tailpipe emissions became an enormous problem. On September 8, 1943, for example, Los Angeles suffered “Black Wednesday,” when smog blinded drivers and blistered the paint off cars.

This was bad for business, and very quickly a coalition of Republican businessmen like Norman Chandler, publisher of the Los Angeles Times, banded together. In 1947, California passed the Air Pollution Control Act, the first such law in the nation.

Marthe48

(16,953 posts)
23. I remember reading about LA smog
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 10:11 AM
Sep 2019

when I was a kid in school. I grew up in Cleveland, Ohio and there was always a hug amount of smoke from the stacks. But no talk of pollution control in Ohio then. Not much now, either.

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