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Demovictory9

(32,445 posts)
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 08:58 PM Sep 2019

Professional Climbers Are Laughing at Trump's 'Impenetrable' Wall Claims

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/professional-climbers-laughing-at-trumps-wall-claims-888114/

Professional Climbers Are Laughing at Trump’s ‘Impenetrable’ Wall Claims
The president claimed it “can’t be climbed” and was tested by pros, but climbers say that’s unlikely

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In fact, the president claimed, the government enlisted professional “world-class mountain climbers” to test different wall designs and evaluate which would be the toughest to scale. “We have, I guess you could say, world-class mountain climbers. We got climbers,” Trump said. “We had 20 mountain climbers. That’s all they do—they love to climb mountains… They’re very good, and some of them were champions. And we gave them different prototypes of walls, and this was the one that was hardest to climb.”

But actual professional climbers tell a different story. Not only do they doubt that any professionals, let alone twenty of the top mountain climbers in the game, would aid the Trump administration in a task like this, they also say the wall would not be difficult to scale.

The Daily Beast’s Scott Bixby spoke with numerous members of the climbing community, and they all denied involvement or even knowing of anyone who was or would be involved in helping the government keep immigrants from crossing the border.

“I have never heard of any climbers ever being recruited to try and climb a border wall,” said Jesse Grupper, who won gold at the 2019 USA Climbing Sport & Speed Open National Championships.

Another climber and second-ranked U.S. women’s boulderer, Kyra Condie, said, “I absolutely have not heard of anyone testing sections of border wall. It would even be hard to find any of us willing to do anything to help Trump and his efforts in any way.”

Some even questioned whether mountain climbers were the best people to conduct such a test. “It makes sense that they would want people to test it out, but ‘mountain climbers’ would not be the people to do it,” rock climber Ross Fulkerson, who ranks third in the nation, said. “Rock climbers would be far better suited for such a test given we constantly practice climbing up vertical and overhanging walls.”


And others scoffed at the idea that the wall was “impossible to climb.” Mitsu Iwasaki, executive director of mountaineering organization Mazamas, told The Daily Beast, “If it’s the slat wall behind him when he made the comment, it looks like it would be easy for a professional rock climber to get up and over.”
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Professional Climbers Are Laughing at Trump's 'Impenetrable' Wall Claims (Original Post) Demovictory9 Sep 2019 OP
i saw a video on twitter of two guys with big back packs scaling the wall 5X Sep 2019 #1
i posted that on du Demovictory9 Sep 2019 #2
A pic for now... 5X Sep 2019 #3
Here it is again... 5X Sep 2019 #4
Well, that's $21 billion well spent, I think you'll agree. meadowlander Sep 2019 #8
Hate to break it to you Revanchist Sep 2019 #19
The guy in the middle is a Mexican politician Generic Other Sep 2019 #9
Maybe he meant to say, Onyrleft Sep 2019 #17
Except that is not the wall he was talking about. former9thward Sep 2019 #18
Another day, another Trump lie. nt Blue_true Sep 2019 #5
When he made that claim, I told my husband Trump was lying...no climbers ever tested it. Karadeniz Sep 2019 #6
Anyone that isn't blinded by anti-immigrant (brown and black ones) hate instantly knew that Blue_true Sep 2019 #7
when they showed it lapfog_1 Sep 2019 #10
Put the 'climbing pros' on tv, Donald. keithbvadu2 Sep 2019 #11
Trump doesn't know much about penetration Blue Owl Sep 2019 #12
It's also hot! SCVDem Sep 2019 #13
Because high-scale ladders don't exist sakabatou Sep 2019 #14
He lies about everything... Moral Compass Sep 2019 #15
They were Trump Climbing School graduates not fooled Sep 2019 #16
I saw a picture of shoes made to climb that wall krispos42 Sep 2019 #20

5X

(3,972 posts)
1. i saw a video on twitter of two guys with big back packs scaling the wall
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 09:01 PM
Sep 2019

in a few seconds. I'll see if I can find it.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
9. The guy in the middle is a Mexican politician
Reply to 5X (Reply #3)
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 10:17 PM
Sep 2019

He gave a speech up there. Mexican congressman Braulio Guerra sits atop the U.S.-Mexico border wall that divides Tijuana from the US.

"You can climb it with great ease, one climbs in an instant," Guerra says in the video. "I climbed it in Tijuana, one of the highest parts, even from a distance this looks very complex, but there are young people that go up and down, at all times."

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/mexican-congressman-climbs-us-border-fence-illustrate-trumps/story?id=45877797


Mexican congressman Braulio Guerra recently climbed the fence along the U.S.-Mexico border to demonstrate what he says is the futility of U.S. President Donald Trump's plan to build a wall between the two countries to stem migration. Guerra, who represents the state of Queretaro, 218 km (135 miles) north of the capital Mexico City, said on a video filmed by his office that it was easy for him to climb the fence and he just as easily could have crossed to the United States. "I am on the wall, sitting on the wall that divides the border between Mexico and the United States. On this side is Mexico. On this side is the United States. And you can see that in these 8 meters-- more or less 8 to 10 meters -- it is easy to climb up. I could get up, climb up, scale it and sit here. It would be very easy to cross into the United States which proves that it is totally unnecessary and absurd to build a wall costing 15 billion dollars or 300 billion pesos," he said.

https://www.reuters.com/video/2017/03/06/mexican-lawmaker-climbs-border-wall-mock?videoId=371247567


former9thward

(31,970 posts)
18. Except that is not the wall he was talking about.
Reply to 5X (Reply #3)
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 12:18 AM
Sep 2019

I don't know if they will be able to climb the new prototype or not but that picture is not it. The fact is most walls will stop most people. Everyone, no. "Professional climbers", no But that is not the purpose of the wall.

The wall Israel has built to stop terrorism in Jerusalem has stopped the daily attacks that were occurring.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
7. Anyone that isn't blinded by anti-immigrant (brown and black ones) hate instantly knew that
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 09:55 PM
Sep 2019

he was lying as soon as his lips started moving.

A person that free-climb can scale that wall without breaking a sweat.

The "wall" is a total waste or money. It is much cheaper and economically advantageous for us to work out a sane guest worker policy where people can come here for work, go home and come back as long as they obey laws.

lapfog_1

(29,199 posts)
10. when they showed it
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 10:58 PM
Sep 2019

i was wondering if a mexican coyote could tow this



and then use a crossbow to fire a line over the fence and zip line to the US.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
13. It's also hot!
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 11:51 PM
Sep 2019

Too hot to climb.

Not at night or morning.

He's projecting again. He means that HE can't climb it.

He also underestimates the resilience of the Mexican people.

Moral Compass

(1,517 posts)
15. He lies about everything...
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 11:55 PM
Sep 2019

I see the statistic that he has told 10000 then 12000 lies since assuming office.

I think it would be far more revealing to try and count how many times he has told the truth. I believe that the number would be close to 0.

Much of the time he is telling neither lies nor the truth, but spouting unintelligible gibberish.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
16. They were Trump Climbing School graduates
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 11:56 PM
Sep 2019

another whopper from red don.

Stealing from the military for a stupid campaign stunt.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
20. I saw a picture of shoes made to climb that wall
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 08:22 AM
Sep 2019

It was a couple of pieces of bent rebar bolted to a pair of sandals.

Clip each sandal to a slat. The way the rebar is bent, the sandal can be lifted up easily, but downward pressure binds the sandal up so it can't move.

So, left leg up, right let up, left leg up, right leg up. Like walking up steps.

Hell, I could do it, and I'm definitely not a rock climber.

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