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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAs a life-long Michigander, what pence did on Mackinac Island makes me sick.
No goddamned respect for ANYTHING. And the Mayor should've said no.
Link to tweet
Cars have been banned on Mackinac Island since 1898. So what does idiot Pence do? Shows up in an EIGHT-vehicle motorcade.
No one in Trump's administration has a damn bit of respect for anything.
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Paul Egan
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@paulegan4
Vice President Mike Pence leaves the Grand Hotel on Mackinac Island Saturday in an eight-vehicle motorcade the islands first ever.
Siwsan
(27,837 posts)I hope that Mayor gets shown the door.
blm
(114,658 posts)or tradition or law in this country that they wont break just to prove they CAN get away with it.
Tanuki
(16,448 posts)
ProudMNDemocrat
(20,906 posts)Pristine and set in a time where bicycles , horse drawn carriages, and foot paths are the modes of transportation. A lovely place with a Grand Hotel I ate lunch at.
shanti
(21,799 posts)Ever since seeing the movie, "Somewhere in Time".
ancianita
(43,307 posts)bbgrunt
(5,281 posts)catbyte
(39,164 posts)TNNurse
(7,541 posts)to take them back and forth.
I went to Mackinac for the first time a couple of weeks ago. Cars are not necessary there. The roads are not built for them.
The carriages that take people to the Grand Hotel are quite elegant. They would be appropriate for Queen Elizabeth or
Michelle Obama.
Pence is a whiny little man just like his boss and mentor.
JHB
(38,220 posts)...or really, anyone who is professionally familiar with what a horse's ass looks like.
He sees it in their eyes when they look at him. They know.
ProudMNDemocrat
(20,906 posts)Mike Pence has no decency or respect for norms.
TNNurse
(7,541 posts)has no decency.
FakeNoose
(41,668 posts)Showing no respect for local laws and traditions.
malaise
(296,176 posts)The officials should not have allowed their own rules to be violated.
Botany
(77,336 posts)I wonder if this act will piss off any Michigander Trump supporters?
A nice Sept. day on Mackinac Island and you get to ride in a golf cart
so what is the down side?
paleotn
(22,224 posts)I'm just glad "mother" isn't in Vermont. I hate that fucking prick.
https://vtdigger.org/2019/08/30/vice-president-pence-touches-down-in-vermont/
Hermit-The-Prog
(36,631 posts)The Genealogist
(4,739 posts)That means in his mind he gets do anything he damned well pleases. And anyone who objects is persecuting him.
keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)It gives the peasants something to gaze in awe.
Greybnk48
(10,727 posts)Not his first, so he knew what was happening. THEY TRANSPORTED HIM TO A CLINIC FROM HIS HOTEL IN A HORSE DRAWN CART!!
Everything has worked there since 1898. It works and it's beautiful. I hate these Trump pigs.
Mike Pence will be forgotten.
manhattan123
(302 posts)...he and wife Betty rode in a horse-drawn carriage. He may have been the last somewhat normal Republican.
roamer65
(37,962 posts)He knew the islands tradition quite well and knew not to mess with it.
roamer65
(37,962 posts)Michiganders are proud of the island and its tradition. This will not play well here in MI.
N_E_1 for Tennis
(13,037 posts)In the northern part of the mitt...youre right not going over too well...even with the reds.
Roland99
(53,345 posts)Peregrine Took
(7,583 posts)N_E_1 for Tennis
(13,037 posts)Total lack of respect for tradition...why?...cuz a horse bit him? Smart horse. This should not have been allowed to happen.
When I first heard it was going to be the emergency Suburban they keep hidden on the island. One car...well maybe ok...but eight? Rewrite the history books.
The Grand Hotel will probably go downhill after the family sold it. Another argument for another day.
musicman65
(524 posts)as well,there is no respect,for the history,just want the vote,,see this for what they are.
vote them out !!!
demmiblue
(39,730 posts)A whole lot of people are pissed. Rightfully so.
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The Velveteen Ocelot
(130,560 posts)Dyedinthewoolliberal
(16,212 posts)or not gone if the Secret Service couldn't live with the no car thing.........
JHB
(38,220 posts)File under "elitist" and "the Clintons have different rule than the rest of us" in the Yellow Elephant hypocrisy compendium.
3Hotdogs
(15,371 posts)Yes, Art, its sarcasm.
Volaris
(11,717 posts)What a buncha fuckin dopes they all are.
KPN
(17,379 posts)Last edited Sun Sep 22, 2019, 02:48 PM - Edit history (1)
"Let them eat cake" brings to mind a fitting fantasy graphic for me.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)He may not be wealthy himself, but his connections with true wealth put him on an entirely different plane. Anyway, in a world where plumbers vote and live in greater luxury than the old "bourgeoisie" ever did and where people who count their wealth in hundreds of millions can only try to imagine what it's like to count your wealth in tens of billions, I really think socialists need new terminology.
But agree this is stupid arrogance to the nth. It'll bit him.
KPN
(17,379 posts)doesn't quite suffice but is perhaps better.
3Hotdogs
(15,371 posts)He "invested" his share with a friend. The investment went south.
greatauntoftriplets
(179,016 posts)I imagine that the islanders were happy to see his backside leave.
WinstonSmith4740
(3,436 posts)My brother-in-law used to race in the "Big Mac". Stayed at the Grand Hotel. Got to see The Northern Lights. That island is a kind of magic place.
So when I read your post title, my immediate thought was "So what did that idiot do, bring a car?" No, that would have been simply ignorant. And this administration doesn't do anything small, so of course he would bring a motorcade.
I'm a little surprised and kind of disappointed that the ferry company brought them over. Back in the day, Nixon's brother tried to get reservations at a restaurant in SoCal that didn't take reservations. He told them they didn't understand, this was RICHARD Nixon, POTUS. He was told, "No you don't understand. We don't take reservations." I miss that shit. Although Moscow Mitch getting harrassed in restaurants is kind of nice.
tblue37
(68,437 posts)a Republican thing.
Wawannabe
(6,892 posts)So essentially hes having vacation on the taxpayers because there is no reason for him to be there except vacation and he does this ...so totally agree with you.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(28,493 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(130,560 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(28,493 posts)When I was a ticket agent at National Airport in Washington, DC, lo these many years ago, I would ten-minute time rule U.S. Senators and CAB Board members.
Back then the rule was if you weren't at the ticket lift position ten minutes before departure time, your reservation could be considered cancelled and you'd have to rebook. We would do that to protect ourselves from oversales, but also sometimes because the ticket counter was a fifteen minute walk from our gates.
And yes, I had more than one unhappy Senator in front of me. I only did it once to a CAB board member.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(130,560 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(28,493 posts)they wouldn't have gotten on.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Liberal In Texas
(16,274 posts)firetrucks and ambulances, I've seen them. I'm sure it's because they've been deemed as necessary for public safety.
But this Pence BS hardly qualifies as necessary.
Sugar Smack
(18,748 posts)What was it? I can't find any actual reason he did that. Is he allergic to horses? Afraid of them? (He's already scared shitless of women; he knows we're really all witches.) Maybe his pointy nose has problems with the aroma. Maybe he thinks the horses are mooning him. Who tf knows what goes on in that sucking black void in his head?
sandiapeach
(9 posts)Pence claimed that triple crown winner American Pharoah bit him on the arm. He said they let him hold the multi-million dollar
stallion's reins and the horse then bit him so hard Pence almost passed out. I can't imagine them letting a stranger handle the reins
of such a valuable animal and management said that it never happened.
Rhiannon12866
(255,679 posts)Why would they let an outsider handle such a horse? Makes no sense to me either and horses like this are used to being fussed over and are very unlikely to bite. I don't believe Pence, either.
weissmam
(910 posts)The only thing I can imagine was that there were security concerns that necessitated travel by car. Though it still sends the wrong message and is really bad optics.
Plus Pence is a douchbag and everyone knows it
wendyb-NC
(4,695 posts)the whole of the tromp cartel has no respect for anything. I hope he gets chiggers, or 7 year itch. Not much chance in his hermetically sealed vehicle, though.
Buns_of_Fire
(19,163 posts)If he shows Comrade Fishylips that he can be just as big an asshole, maybe he won't get dumped for Ivanka next year.
Blue Owl
(59,120 posts)n/t
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)They are quick to accuse us of being elites. Pence's actions were the absolute definition of elitism, we should in our language stick that to him like stink on feces.
So, he did a good deed for us, if we don't step on our dicks while pinning him with it.
Botany
(77,336 posts)... Nelson and Happy Rockefeller, Ike, and so on all visited
Mackinac Island and they all took bikes, horse carts, or golf carts no problem.
Btw I might be wrong on Ike.
muntrv
(14,505 posts)on the hour.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)assume they're mostly just defending Pence/Trump.
Attitude toward equality is the single biggest natural (political) difference between liberals and conservatives. Conservatives tend to feel social hierarchy and privilege are both right and natural, that people earn and deserve their level of society. It's equality that doesn't ping with them. All men are created with equal rights just doesn't feel right to them.
Being a born liberal, I was very surprised to learn that conservatives accept being less privileged than others as normal and appropriate, just as much as they accept being privileged over those lower in the hierarchy.
Pence is way up the privilege scale. If there's road damage, some will not resent paying the taxes that repair that at all, even if it means less left for meeting their own needs.
Btw, I love that person who wouldn't give Nixon a reservation, and I'd bet my checking account he or she was NOT conservative, and not for political spite.
rockfordfile
(8,742 posts)Rhiannon12866
(255,679 posts)IronLionZion
(51,280 posts)just make sure Michigan goes blue in the election and show him