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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf an impeachment inquiry is started, I predict Trump will withdraw
his release of the transcript he announced today. "Come and get it, Nancy," he'll say, essentially. Shortly afterwards, he will begin a rage tweet session that may never end.
That's my prediction.
mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)And may your words shine through
olegramps
(8,200 posts)It scenario could go something like this: I promised to release the transcripts until I was faced with a vicious attack by lying scam bag Democrats and on the advice of my attorney, i.e., alias: Ghouliani, I will direct there release 100 years after my death.
unblock
(56,198 posts)"see, it's all nancy's fault for investigating me!"
lark
(26,081 posts)I agree this could easily happen. However, I could also see him releasing a totally phoney lie and call it the transcript.
MineralMan
(151,269 posts)He knows that, too.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Generic Brad
(14,374 posts)Hes the ballsiest character in the history of this country. I expect nothing less than another criminal act in response from him.
kentuck
(115,407 posts)...I doubt that he has any intent of turning anything over. He does and says stuff like this to buy time. He always has.
Blue_playwright
(1,620 posts)barbtries
(31,308 posts)he's running out of distractions.
i hate this. nobody knows what he will do.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)will be so redacted that it will be meaningless. Bill Barr will do his best to work the come and get it.
tblue37
(68,436 posts)instances" cited by the whistleblower.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)wanted to speak directly to the Schiff Committee.
Watch Trump head to the Court House in the next hour to block this. As one of the Watergate investigators said,do not trust the Transcript. Nixon's Aides were masters of deceit and omissions.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)We need the fucking tapes, not some made-up "transcript."
bdamomma
(69,532 posts)his head blows up.
MineralMan
(151,269 posts)I'd keep my distance from him this afternoon and evening...
Celerity
(54,410 posts)I guess he will have to settle for self
serviceSammyWinstonJack
(44,316 posts)W_HAMILTON
(10,333 posts)Given that Trump's announcement of releasing the transcript came just a few minutes before the big media outlets reported that Pelosi was going to announce formal impeachment proceedings later today, my guess is that he heard through the grapevine that she was going to do this so he offered up the transcript just to pull the offer back later today and blame it on Pelosi threatening impeachment. Let's see if he actually goes through with releasing the transcript...
tblue37
(68,436 posts)fierywoman
(8,595 posts)volstork
(5,837 posts)could stay silent for 18 minutes. He LOVES to hear himself talk.
tblue37
(68,436 posts)roamer65
(37,953 posts)Everything he says is a lie. Its as constant as the North Star with him. All LIES.
mnhtnbb
(33,349 posts)Eyeball_Kid
(7,604 posts)The big prize will be the whistleblower's complaint and the IG's report that's now being held up by the White House. The transcript is secondary.
2naSalit
(102,800 posts)MineralMan
(151,269 posts)As always.
stopdiggin
(15,463 posts)no one every thought that a single phone call was the whole deal here. Multiple contacts, by multiple different players. The offer to release a "transcript" just looks silly. (although FOX might be all in)
FakeNoose
(41,634 posts)That would put an end to the rage tweeting, am I right?
Also Rudy G. needs to be held and interrogated by real intelligence agents - not TV reporters. Get his testimony all on tape, but don't televise it live. If it's televised, Chump will watch and find some way to interfere with it. Once Rudy is pinned down with his testimony on tape, then interview Chump and watch him lie his ass off trying to save himself.
This can all be done in the next few days. Probably the sooner the better.
If they do get Chump's cell phone, it would be interesting to see how many calls he's had with his Russian buddies - in the last week or two.
Johnny2X2X
(24,210 posts)Gangster mentality. He knows his crimes don't matter to his voters, he knows Moscow Mitch in the Senate will protect him. So he wants the world to know he is above the law. It's a gangster tactic and sends a message that he can do what he wants.
Nasruddin
(1,258 posts)I agree- it could show the world hes in charge of this.
Ive been thinking he wants to be impeached - nothing works better for his whiny narc MO than this kind of spectacle. But maybe his handlers want a demo of power.
I think its bad strategy tho - there are lots of other sharks & They may have plans of their own.
Buckeyeblue
(6,352 posts)All we need is the Republicans to vote unanimously to convict. I honestly don't think Trump's base of toothless racists can bite hard enough to break the skin.
Caliman73
(11,767 posts)He has fought like hell to keep his tax returns from being seen by anyone. He fought like hell to keep people from talking to Mueller. He talks real tough about his information and how powerful he is, but he has fought tooth and nail to actually prevent anything from being released.
This transcript that he is releasing is in all probability altered and worthless. He is going to scream and use all methods legal and otherwise, at his disposal to keep the actual complaint from being released or the actual whistleblower from disclosing any information.
He is a WANNABE gangster.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)Bypassing Congress and all courts with a declaration, but it will fail.he's a career criminal, and if he's not stopped he'll get much worse for everyone,everywhere.
Hermit-The-Prog
(36,631 posts)If there's a delivery of new Sharpies to the WH, he'll release a transcript, else, he's stalling.
yaesu
(9,328 posts)bucolic_frolic
(55,143 posts)stating Trump gave no reason for withholding Ukraine funds authorized by Congress.
You don't need a reason to establish a quid pro quo with multiple moving parts and entities. The sleight-of-hand does that just fine.
bucolic_frolic
(55,143 posts)self-control is a big asset online
The Velveteen Ocelot
(130,538 posts)Bill Barr will have massaged it somehow, if Spanky doesn't personally take his Sharpie to it.
Celerity
(54,410 posts)Barr's 'post-massage' expression

The Velveteen Ocelot
(130,538 posts)Celerity
(54,410 posts)Bradical79
(4,490 posts)Going to be an interesting couple of days.
Kingofalldems
(40,278 posts)USALiberal
(10,877 posts)cmeneer
(341 posts)As I've heard discussed on the MSNBC panel, we don't need the transcript. The quid pro co may not be in the transcript. The deals were probably made back channeled. The whistleblower knows the story. That testimony will tell the tale.
ritapria
(1,812 posts)berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)Even when he knows hes already lost.
bdamomma
(69,532 posts)anyway, it makes sense he's no winner.
calimary
(90,021 posts)He may need to call somebody in Russia about a place to hide.
I STILL think when the heat grows too hot hell grab Ivanka and Melania (in that order) and call for an unmarked helicopter to meet him on the White House grounds at 3am on a moonless night.
DallasNE
(8,008 posts)He offered an unredacted transcript. What does that mean exactly? If it is edited then no redactions are necessary because it will have already been scrubbed.
Second, that is just one aspect of the whistleblower complaint so we still need to see the whistleblower complaint that was described as alarming.
Yes, I agree, the offer was only a carrot to head off a formal impeachment inquiry. When that doesn't work, he will withdraw the offer. That is why is was made for tomorrow, after today's meeting. It has not been offered in good faith.
William Seger
(12,443 posts)e.g. based on additional info, events or context. However, the complaint is what Congress has a clear legal right to, and I think they should stay away from the transcripts unless Trump denies that the complaint is factually accurate.
yuiyoshida
(45,415 posts)If anything, he will probably barricade himself in the White House and fight anyone who tries to remove him from office...He will not go quietly.
Brainfodder
(7,781 posts)FAKE NEWS! FAKE NEWZ! FAQ NEWS!
He & the Sean Hannity network have been planting the seed of doubt for 3 years, can't expect anything but that echoed back by any and all ignoramuses still solidly believing him STILL, plus all the bad operators trying to keep him in power?
3catwoman3
(29,406 posts)...tried to get away with releasing transcripts, and was told that was a no-go - He had to cough up the actual tapes. I hope that happens now, as well.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)keeps saying he'll be out in March.
JCMach1
(29,202 posts)followed by rage tweeting...
erronis
(23,882 posts)Now, I need to find out how to turn on my non-existent T.V. and turn the knob to channel ??
Or I can go to a local airport lobby or some sports bar.
Theatrix will abound!
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Generic Other
(29,080 posts)Will enjoy the tweets over a glass of whine.
Vinca
(53,994 posts)barbtries
(31,308 posts)is he'll release a transcript that is total bullshit.
MineralMan
(151,269 posts)I don't know how we'll tell, though. We need the audio recordings that were used to prepare the transcripts.
barbtries
(31,308 posts)so i'm watching the Last Word and he has a guest on who says there is not a recording. that surprised me.
any transcript from trump cannot be trusted.
randr
(12,648 posts)He has quit every enterprise he has started.
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)...because one of his smarter aides will tell him transcripts aren't typically hand-written in Sharpie.
MineralMan
(151,269 posts)Tipperary
(6,930 posts)I bet you are right.