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Mr.Bill | Sep 2019 | OP |
Chin music | Sep 2019 | #1 | |
Mr.Bill | Sep 2019 | #6 | |
dweller | Sep 2019 | #2 | |
Sunsky | Sep 2019 | #8 | |
StarfishSaver | Sep 2019 | #12 | |
NanceGreggs | Sep 2019 | #3 | |
Mr.Bill | Sep 2019 | #10 | |
NanceGreggs | Sep 2019 | #21 | |
tableturner | Sep 2019 | #4 | |
chowder66 | Sep 2019 | #5 | |
Mr.Bill | Sep 2019 | #7 | |
chowder66 | Sep 2019 | #15 | |
Mr.Bill | Sep 2019 | #16 | |
chowder66 | Sep 2019 | #22 | |
Flaleftist | Sep 2019 | #9 | |
Mr.Bill | Sep 2019 | #11 | |
Flaleftist | Sep 2019 | #13 | |
Mr.Bill | Sep 2019 | #14 | |
Flaleftist | Sep 2019 | #17 | |
stonecutter357 | Sep 2019 | #18 | |
Mr.Bill | Sep 2019 | #19 | |
WhiskeyGrinder | Sep 2019 | #20 | |
BlueIdaho | Sep 2019 | #23 |
Response to Mr.Bill (Original post)
Chin music This message was self-deleted by its author.
Response to Chin music (Reply #1)
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 09:25 PM
Mr.Bill (20,208 posts)
6. You mean like Rachel is doing right now? n/t
Response to Mr.Bill (Original post)
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 09:02 PM
dweller (22,199 posts)
2. we don't need the report
Response to dweller (Reply #2)
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 09:30 PM
Sunsky (1,737 posts)
8. Awesome
Because I trust nothing that comes from Trumpgov.
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Response to dweller (Reply #2)
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 09:38 PM
StarfishSaver (18,486 posts)
12. We've also got Trump admitting to a crime
Response to Mr.Bill (Original post)
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 09:03 PM
NanceGreggs (27,626 posts)
3. Then the Republicans ...
... are caught red-handed covering up a crime that Trump has already admitted to.
Their only option at this point is to release everything now and start spinning it - because you can't spin something AND hide it at the same time. |
Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #3)
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 09:32 PM
Mr.Bill (20,208 posts)
10. But there could be way more in the report
than what we have heard about so far. That's why we need to see it unredacted and complete. There could still be much to hide.
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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #10)
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 09:59 PM
NanceGreggs (27,626 posts)
21. Oh, I'm sure ...
... there is still plenty to hide. But as Mayor Pete just said (I have CNN on in the background), "This isn't just about a phone call or the complaint."
Trump (and Giuliani) have publicly admitted to breaking the law. So any stonewalling or obfuscation on the part of the Republicans at this juncture would only cause more damage to the GOP and their "pResident". Their only option now is to put everything to do with this issue on the table, and then do their best to get in front of it with spin - in hopes the whole thing blows over in the next few news cycles. Scott Jennings said it last night on CNN, that the Mueller report, the Kavanaugh fiasco, etc., all "went away, and this will, too." The last thing the GOP wants right now is to have the facts of this story getting out drip by drip over time, which would only serve to keep the story alive and in the headlines. Better to deal with conflagration all at once than to be forced to keep putting out the fires that could flare-up over and over. |
Response to Mr.Bill (Original post)
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 09:16 PM
tableturner (1,607 posts)
4. They are negotiating delivering a REDACTED whistleblower complaint! See.....
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/24/us/politics/trump-whistleblower-congress.html
No way redactions are acceptable! No reason to negotiate.....the law is clear.....the language about turning this over is "shall", not "may", and not "shall, subject to redactions made by the DNI", or anybody else! |
Response to Mr.Bill (Original post)
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 09:24 PM
chowder66 (7,935 posts)
5. It will look bad if they do, could be looked at as obstruction. nt
On Edit: unless the whistleblower and Intel agencies agree to redactions for security reasons.
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Response to chowder66 (Reply #5)
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 09:28 PM
Mr.Bill (20,208 posts)
7. I can understand redactions for national security
in any version released to the public. But with the Mueller report members of congress with the highest level of security clearance didn't even get to see the redacted parts.
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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #7)
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 09:41 PM
chowder66 (7,935 posts)
15. The whistleblower should be allowed to speak to the appropriate committee.
I suppose we will have to wait and see but anything they try to block at this point will simply be seen as obstruction which will go towards articles of impeachment now that it is official. At least I suspect that would be the case.
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Response to chowder66 (Reply #15)
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 09:44 PM
Mr.Bill (20,208 posts)
16. One of the reasons someone uses the whistleblower procedure
is to protect their identity and avoid retaliation. That's going to be very difficult here. But maybe this person is already expecting that.
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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #16)
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 09:59 PM
chowder66 (7,935 posts)
22. I hope they have some inkling. They know how Trump and Co. operate. nt
Response to Mr.Bill (Original post)
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 09:31 PM
Flaleftist (3,473 posts)
9. Subpoena the whistleblower and get the truth.
The whistleblower wouldn't have come forward if they were a Trump loyalist and not a patriot. I believe the truth will come out.
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Response to Flaleftist (Reply #9)
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 09:33 PM
Mr.Bill (20,208 posts)
11. I hope you are right,
but we haven't had very good luck with subpoenas lately.
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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #11)
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 09:38 PM
Flaleftist (3,473 posts)
13. The previous subpoenaed witnesses were Trump loyalists, no?
Response to Flaleftist (Reply #13)
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 09:39 PM
Mr.Bill (20,208 posts)
14. Or at least people he had control over. n/t
Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #14)
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 09:44 PM
Flaleftist (3,473 posts)
17. True.
I am hoping this one is different.
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Response to Mr.Bill (Original post)
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 09:45 PM
stonecutter357 (12,492 posts)
18. Do you know trump is a racist pig ?
Response to stonecutter357 (Reply #18)
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 09:47 PM
Mr.Bill (20,208 posts)
19. Yes, decades ago. n/t
Response to Mr.Bill (Original post)
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 09:49 PM
WhiskeyGrinder (19,539 posts)
20. They continue the impeachment process.
Response to Mr.Bill (Original post)
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 10:12 PM
BlueIdaho (12,988 posts)
23. Why wouldn't it be?
Everything else handed to congress has been - so why not this? The good news? The report is the set up and Nancy’s got the votes to impeach.
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