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Thu Sep 26, 2019, 07:30 PM

Does Trump want to be impeached?

Trump is a maze of psychological problems. You have to admit, in 2016 he tried everything he could to lose. That was the whole plan. He did not want to win, he just wanted to come in second and up his brand. The whole thing fell apart when he won. Now Trump went through some phases. First, shock he won. Next, he got used to the job and got rid of people that tried to contain him. Then he ran the Presidency like his business. But he discovered he could not do that, and more and more he is taking heat. The pressure must be getting to him. So maybe on a subconscious level he wants to be impeached. If he was removed from office, the pressure is gone. He could claim it was all a witch hunt, go back to mar-a-lago, play the victim and not have to do any of the work of President. Of course Pence would pardon him as he went out the door. Everybody wins. You never know with Trump. Look at today when he made remarks about the whistle blower to a crowd of over 50 people. He had to know somebody was recording. Like a criminal that wants to get caught and sent back to prison. Only in Trumps case, he wants to be sent back to the golf course.

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Reply Does Trump want to be impeached? (Original post)
extvbroadcaster Sep 2019 OP
trof Sep 2019 #1
Blanks92 Sep 2019 #2
marble falls Sep 2019 #19
Dennis Donovan Sep 2019 #3
Rhiannon12866 Sep 2019 #17
Dennis Donovan Sep 2019 #18
Rhiannon12866 Sep 2019 #21
Dennis Donovan Sep 2019 #22
Rhiannon12866 Sep 2019 #23
DrToast Sep 2019 #4
saidsimplesimon Sep 2019 #5
cynatnite Sep 2019 #6
tblue37 Sep 2019 #8
uponit7771 Sep 2019 #25
Ahpook Sep 2019 #7
tblue37 Sep 2019 #9
Blanks92 Sep 2019 #12
pwb Sep 2019 #30
iamateacher Sep 2019 #10
empedocles Sep 2019 #11
loyalsister Sep 2019 #13
smirkymonkey Sep 2019 #14
The Genealogist Sep 2019 #15
customerserviceguy Sep 2019 #16
jcgoldie Sep 2019 #20
struggle4progress Sep 2019 #24
NCLefty Sep 2019 #26
samnsara Sep 2019 #27
KPN Sep 2019 #28
DeminPennswoods Sep 2019 #29
MFM008 Sep 2019 #31
lark Sep 2019 #32
Oregon1947 Sep 2019 #33

Response to extvbroadcaster (Original post)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 07:33 PM

1. You make some good points, but...

Please break it up into 2 or 3 paragraphs.
Blocks of type like your post are difficult to read.
Thanks.

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Response to extvbroadcaster (Original post)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 07:34 PM

2. Most likely

 

Yes

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Response to Blanks92 (Reply #2)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 09:25 PM

19. I have no doubt he really regrets being President and he looking for an exit ...

that helps his bottom line. Could he make money talking at dinners and conventions to his basket of deplorables and John Bircher widows speaking on how unfairly lost his Presidency and be glad he was no longer in office. Maybe some Fox "news" invites.

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Response to extvbroadcaster (Original post)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 07:34 PM

3. You write like an ex-TV broadcaster I knew...

...does Chartock ring a bell?

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Reply #3)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 09:01 PM

17. Dr. Alan Chartock still runs WAMC, Northeast Public Radio

And he's also active on Twitter, as is his son.

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #17)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 09:03 PM

18. God bless him!

He was one of the cool things about living in the Capitol Region in the aughts!

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Reply #18)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 09:29 PM

21. He occasionally appeared with Ed Dague, news anchor for WNYT, Albany

They informed and debated their progressive message.

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #21)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 09:57 PM

22. That's where I was going...

...knowing Ed Dague is one of us.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Reply #22)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 10:08 PM

23. I once pulled into a supermarket parking lot and sat there for half an hour

Since Alan Chartock was interviewing Greg Palast on the radio and I wanted to hear the whole thing!

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Response to extvbroadcaster (Original post)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 07:34 PM

4. Oh good lord.....no

Jesus, how can anyone watch him and think he wants this.

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Response to extvbroadcaster (Original post)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 07:35 PM

5. What IT wants is to dominate the news cycle.

To play the role of a "star" media personality, raking in the bucks for his performance, while fleecing "the rubes".

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Response to extvbroadcaster (Original post)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 07:36 PM

6. He doesn't want to risk jail, so no...

Staying in the WH keeps that from happening.

Although, if he thinks he's going to lose and if he wants to be let off the hook, then resigning would be the way to go. Then Pence steps in and pardons him.

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Response to cynatnite (Reply #6)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 07:39 PM

8. And then the New York AG steps in with an indictment Pence can't pardon him out of. nt

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Response to cynatnite (Reply #6)

Fri Sep 27, 2019, 03:51 AM

25. +1

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Response to extvbroadcaster (Original post)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 07:39 PM

7. Not so sure about this

After his outburst today he seems genuinely pissed off.

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Response to extvbroadcaster (Original post)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 07:41 PM

9. He desperately tried to make a deal with Nancy to get her to halt the impeachment inquiry, so

I am pretty sure he doesn't want to be impeached.

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #9)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 08:02 PM

12. Logic dictates that

 

Impeachment proceedings will solidify his base and those who may view him as a victim of relentless media abuse

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Response to Blanks92 (Reply #12)

Fri Sep 27, 2019, 07:03 AM

30. I don't see it that way.

His base is smoke and mirrors. Weak at best.

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Response to extvbroadcaster (Original post)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 07:57 PM

11. Rachel raised the bellicose Agnew case, where Agnew wrote a letter asking to

be impeached - figuring he could rely on Republican Senate votes, but not a criminal grand jury.

It seems to be to ltrump's advantage to have impeachment soon, and have it fail, before he slips any more in the polls. Ride through it like he rode through pussy grabbing, Manafort, gates, Mueller, etc.

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Response to extvbroadcaster (Original post)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 08:05 PM

13. From observation, two things he seems to love are attention and playing victim

Impeachment would give him a stage for both. It seems he does not see wrong doing as a possibility when his actions are designed to fulfill his needs, desires, or whims. So, it wouldn't surprise me if he were to embrace martyrdom, and ride it out.

On the other hand, even if he grasps the reality of the seriousness of impeachment, his security in the legitimacy of his behavior could lead him to dig in and fight it.

There are probably a few other possibilities I can't imagine, as well.

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Response to extvbroadcaster (Original post)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 08:12 PM

14. The beauty of all this is that he went into this to draw attention to and increase the value

of his brand. However, he has pretty much trashed his brand and I don't think his children are going to be able to rehabilitate it.

I think he would love to go back to his old life if he could figure out a way not to look like a loser. He doesn't like being president, but he doesn't want to give up the power or the attention either. He's also afraid of being prosecuted for the many crimes he has committed. I think he'd settle for a "deal" to walk away from it all.

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Response to extvbroadcaster (Original post)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 08:17 PM

15. Who knows?

He's like a big balloon that someone has untied and let go, so that it is sailing all over the room as it looses its air. Does he want it? On the plus size for him, it means people paying attention to him and "there's no such thing as bad publicity." On the other, it may mean he loses office and will have to pay for his crimes. Frankly, I think his brain is oatmeal, rendering him incapable of knowing what he wants--save maybe a Big Mac/Whopper/KFC chicken dinner/grease trap to lick clean.

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Response to extvbroadcaster (Original post)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 08:47 PM

16. He does

thrive on conflict. My first ex-wife was somewhat like that, learned it from her mother.

For Trump, to struggle is to live. He may well have invited this on himself to have a battle to fight. That's why I think he will never resign.

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Response to extvbroadcaster (Original post)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 09:28 PM

20. I do not believe at all that he did not want to win

And based on the way he is reacting I do not believe at all that he wants to be impeached.

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Response to extvbroadcaster (Original post)

Fri Sep 27, 2019, 12:00 AM

24. "It's a fundraising opportunity!"

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Response to extvbroadcaster (Original post)

Fri Sep 27, 2019, 03:54 AM

26. I don't think he wanted to lose, precisely. But I don't think he wanted to win either.

He's a lazy fucker. He never wanted to have to attend all of these Official Events, learning about World Problems and Caring About Other People while dragging his gold-digging wife after him. That's why she cried the night he was elected. He wanted the fame, sure, but not the responsibility.

But his ego and hubris got the better of him and, once elected, he was trapped in the brightest spotlight in the world.

What a fucking moron! :p

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Response to extvbroadcaster (Original post)

Fri Sep 27, 2019, 06:33 AM

27. i think hes finding hes supposd to WORK in this job and hes not happy..

..he likes the bling and the attn and lord knows the POWER but if he has to actually work for it? hes be happier on the golf course..maybe he will use this as an excuse to walk off the job.

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Response to extvbroadcaster (Original post)

Fri Sep 27, 2019, 06:57 AM

28. You list me with tRump did not want to win in 2016. He

was indeed shocked when he, in fact, did win. But he also always wanted to win. That is the core of tRump and the problem of his presidency. He always wants to win and always has. And he will do whatever it takes to do so.

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Response to extvbroadcaster (Original post)

Fri Sep 27, 2019, 06:59 AM

29. No

nt

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Response to extvbroadcaster (Original post)

Fri Sep 27, 2019, 07:57 AM

31. If he does

It's working really well.

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Response to extvbroadcaster (Original post)

Fri Sep 27, 2019, 09:02 AM

32. I really don't think so.

Yes, he is a very ignorant and vainglorious ass who thinks he always gets his way, but he KNOWS he will go to jail if he's not president, he has broken so many laws he would definitely go down. That's the only reason he's fighting like a hellcat to again steal the election - his very freedom is at stake. He could have everything taken from him and rot in jail and he will do anything, a n y t h i n g, to stop that - even setting his minions to hurt the WB and anyone who talked to her/him.

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Response to extvbroadcaster (Original post)

Fri Sep 27, 2019, 09:05 AM

33. No, he knows he has the Senate so he doesnt care what the House does.nm

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