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Annie Donaldson
Gregory Katsas
Makan Delrahim
Uttam Dhillon
Stefan Passantino
John A. Eisenberg
Patrick F. Philbin
Kate Comerford Todd
Michael Purpura
Pat Cipollone
I only know of one, John Eisenberg, from Kirkland & Ellis out of Chicago.
Adam Schiff is coming for them and their password-coded National Security Council server. I find it hard to believe that 16 intel agencies couldn't crack that server.
Regardless, familiarizing oneself with their names might come in handy as Schiff's House Intel Committee conducts further investigation.
Leghorn21
(13,526 posts)Thanks for good info, ancianita!
LuvLoogie
(7,028 posts)Remains to be seen if they hand it over or obstruct.
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ancianita
(36,133 posts)According to the former NSA's IG, Joe Brenner, on Lawrence O'Donnell, these people have criminal exposure now.
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ArcticFox
(1,249 posts)Seeing your scruples aside. That's part of what big money clients pay for.
ancianita
(36,133 posts)As they say, in this case, when you work for Trump, you engage in criminal activity.
Cohen and the rest of the jailed are proof of that.
That the White House counsel team thought they could be, like their boss, above the law, is the ultimate corruption.
Theirs is worse than business corruption; this is the corruption of those whose morality should be guided by belief that they work for a nation of laws and not of men.
Lock him up.
(6,941 posts)They believed Crooked Donald is the second coming... (and not the second Nixon).
ancianita
(36,133 posts)SergeStorms
(19,204 posts)You bow at the feet of Donald Trump and serve him only! Your morals, scruples etc. are left at home. Those morals, scruples etc. have no place in the Trump White House.
Everything Donald Trump touches DIES! Why would anyone want to be associated with Trump's mal-administration? I'll never be able to understand any answer to that one question.
ancianita
(36,133 posts)Kablooie
(18,641 posts)Many more will go to prison and become a convicted felon the rest of their lives in order to serve this ass.
And they seem to do it willingly!
It's weird.
ancianita
(36,133 posts)It's the professional class serving the moneyed class. They're an old sub-class, socioeconomically, and have never been considered part of the wealthy class.
The billionaires make up the .01% and the professional class make up the rest of the 1%.
The weirdness of their service is that they don't know fake money from real money, so they go down with fake money like Trump's.
New York, full of the class consciousness of real wealth, always knew that Trump wasn't worthy. That's why Putin groomed him as his tool.
onetexan
(13,058 posts)Thats what u get for enabling a crook. Add Ghooliani to that too .
klook
(12,166 posts)GeoWilliam750
(2,522 posts)Kirkland & Ellis alums include:
Brett Kavanaugh
Robert Bork
Ken Starr
William Barr
Pat Cipollone
Alexander Acosta
John R Bolton
Then again, it is the largest US law firm, very active in corporate law, although they strangely found time to defend Jeffrey Epstein.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirkland_%26_Ellis
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MontanaMama
(23,337 posts)Thats one terrifying list.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)I just don't see a small group of people having the expertise to hold off the capabilities of US Intelligence. What may be happening is the intelligence agencies may be cowered in confronting Trump's White House. An impeachment investigation will force them to divulge what they know, because an executive branch that may be criminal lose the capacity to hide information, or prevent agencies from turning it over to Congress.
It is informative that in just a few hours the House found out about the standalone server.
ancianita
(36,133 posts)Last edited Fri Sep 27, 2019, 03:05 AM - Edit history (2)
Their actions show they must have known he was breaking the law.
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)Do we know how the House found out about the standalone server?
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)ancianita
(36,133 posts)If not, I'll post it.
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)I would really appreciate it if you would post it.
Thank you, ancianita!
ancianita
(36,133 posts)True Blue American
(17,988 posts)Had a busy day so did not get a chance to read it. Now I can read it several times to be sure.
DURHAM D
(32,611 posts)Tyler McGaughey
Leghorn21
(13,526 posts)February, this year:
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/02/william-barr-son-in-law-white-house
ancianita
(36,133 posts)Her work is a sidebar, but could be relevant if/when Schiff and other committees finally get some IRS documentation on MF45's finances.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_Crimes_Enforcement_Network
ancianita
(36,133 posts)Control-Z
(15,682 posts)"The nepotism is obvious, right?"
C_U_L8R
(45,020 posts)Or at least disbarment
ancianita
(36,133 posts)ritapria
(1,812 posts)ancianita
(36,133 posts)Leghorn21
(13,526 posts)about it? She was his uhhh clerk or cohort or colleague or like that
Come to think of it, due to recent events, maybe hes having some second thoughts about coming in and testifying for the good and the benefit of the American People!!? WHAT SAY YOU DONNIE MCGHAN
ancianita
(36,133 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Who gives a crap if he come forward now, he ignored a House summons to testify. Jail his ass.
ancianita
(36,133 posts)level.
Dan
(3,579 posts)Trust me - they probably can, just probably maybe not in our lifetime.
ancianita
(36,133 posts)Dan
(3,579 posts)Were probably setup by US Security Agencies.
Not a backdrop hack to get in.
Not only Network security to beat - assume that you are allowed in tho.
Now physical security on Servers - assume that you are allow in tho.
Then, if smart, encryption on data - now that is where you have fun...good luck.
In theory - encryption key required.
ancianita
(36,133 posts)SunSeeker
(51,698 posts)volstork
(5,403 posts)wiped by now.
ancianita
(36,133 posts)rickyhall
(4,889 posts)What a whiny little bitch...
ancianita
(36,133 posts)lastlib
(23,286 posts)I've heard that firm name before....
ancianita
(36,133 posts)Kirkland & Ellis seem to be a magnet for the conservative legal teams, or the .01%'s legal teams.
I've never understood how they've been seen in Chicago, though I've lived here since 1973, but the firm has endowed professorships in its name at four law schools: Harvard Law School, Northwestern University School of Law, University of Michigan Law School, and University of Chicago Law School.
wishstar
(5,271 posts)ancianita
(36,133 posts)CabalPowered
(12,690 posts)I'd be willing to bet that he had access. And motive.
ancianita
(36,133 posts)I wonder if he'll get the same treatment Mueller gave the Trump kids.
Hope not. They have to learn that with money and privilege comes responsibility to the country.
The thing is, the lawyers will be the ones held responsible for all illegal activity in the WH, probably not Jared.
The "we" who are told that "ignorance of the law is no excuse" are not the Trump younguns, apparently.
NCLefty
(3,678 posts)because he's so damn corrupt and he kept trashing THEIR reputations.
But whether they give it to Congress...
ancianita
(36,133 posts)The timeline of the Trump impeachment vote might alter the timeline of how all his henchmen are dealt with.
We'll see, I suppose.
Arazi
(6,829 posts)JI7
(89,264 posts)ancianita
(36,133 posts)each individually since they're not public figures.
Now that you ask, it's worth a look.
ancianita
(36,133 posts)will likely dig up any info on foreign connections, if evidence of them exists.
In the meantime, we see a domestic investigation expand to find illegal coverup evidence -- from witness interviews, depositions, digital and paper trails, and patterns of wrongdoing as the context -- for charges.
NCLefty
(3,678 posts)ancianita
(36,133 posts)NCLefty
(3,678 posts)Captain Zero
(6,823 posts)what if this nsc stand-alone was a counter intel operation? or just used that way?
what if the whistle blower and his/her pals told them to not worry about troublesome stuff, just store it here?
Give them each a unique access id and authority to store but not to retrieve.
The logins could show who stored what, and the login could show who tried to access to remove data and was denied.
Maybe I'm just hoping for this to be an airtight take down of criminal activity.
Couldn't happen to a better bunch. The Best !!
Also this Chicago law firm sounds like it makes these people invincible, but they may all be a bunch of low lifes like Kavanaugh was. He worked at the white house one time too.
ancianita
(36,133 posts)decisions were made?
The way entry is arranged might not depend on logins, but yeah, I get it.
Schiff will know the relevant intel needed, and the whole set of issues connected to a secret server and a president. Airtight is long to be wished for.
I hear you about Kirkland & Ellis.
vsrazdem
(2,177 posts)aware.
ancianita
(36,133 posts)KY_EnviroGuy
(14,494 posts)high-level IT people?
These are "Counsel Members" which means attorneys, right? They would just be passing along orders to a highly skilled group of data heads that work in IT.
One would think they would have to be government employees with high-level security clearances.
Best there's a bunch of folks shaking in their boots over this one.....
ancianita
(36,133 posts)position to be held as accountable as the legal team.
We'll see.
Iterate
(3,020 posts)Is this the source of his constant misunderstanding about what a server is and what it does?
Such as:
Donald J. Trump
✔
@realDonaldTrump
....Where is the DNC Server, and why didnt the FBI take possession of it? Deep State?
95.5K
11:57 AM - Jul 14, 2018
Twitter Ads info and privacy
He always sounds like he's talking about a stand-alone computer locked in a secret closet.
ancianita
(36,133 posts)He probably knew on some level but puts it out of his mind as somebody else's problem. It's a habit of behavior disordered people.
mercuryblues
(14,537 posts)Lawyer/client privilege is broken one the lawyer commits a crime with the client. IOW they can't hide behind lawyer/client privilege, nor their position as White House counsel, when they are called in to testify
ancianita
(36,133 posts)MFGsunny
(2,356 posts)KARMA
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superpatriotman
(6,252 posts)Ponderous
ancianita
(36,133 posts)Counsel, was so specialized that he wouldn't have had any authority to interview or intervene for the whistleblower. Mueller was gone by the time DNI Dan Coats resigned, anyway.
All that is irrelevant, anyway, because the Federal Whistleblower Protection Enhancement Act of 2012 lays out the explicit process for transferring information, with the ultimate destination being the people's First Branch of oversight, Congress.
WH and DOJ henchmen forced the DNI to delay the info transference to Congress, but once the whistleblower lawyered up the info was delivered. The whistleblower's role was so legally flawless it was inevitable.
Mueller is brilliant. But having to follow the rule of law, he couldn't credibly represent the whistleblower on this issue. ANYone in the FBI can investigate, indict, obtain evidence and prosecute under their leadership, but not even Christopher Wray could LEGALLY represent an intelligence employee.