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What the actual fuck is this whitewashing? (Original Post) melman Sep 2019 OP
CNN Trying to divide the Democrats berni_mccoy Sep 2019 #1
Agreed. Salviati Sep 2019 #4
CNN is Republican Owned Media (too) live love laugh Sep 2019 #71
The short take-home lesson: for a better government, elect more women! struggle4progress Sep 2019 #2
+10000. Hoyt Sep 2019 #30
I can get behind this. n/t intheflow Sep 2019 #73
They all deserve credit. Turin_C3PO Sep 2019 #3
Yes they do, but they DO not deserve to be ignored OR used falsley. elleng Sep 2019 #6
True! Turin_C3PO Sep 2019 #8
They can't help themselves malaise Sep 2019 #5
CNN did differentiate by including that they won in Trump won districts. fleabiscuit Sep 2019 #7
There's more to it than that melman Sep 2019 #9
Bossip? sheshe2 Sep 2019 #10
Your point? melman Sep 2019 #11
My point. sheshe2 Sep 2019 #28
Messed with the wrong person..yes they did..good on ya' sheshe2 asiliveandbreathe Sep 2019 #31
Lol! sheshe2 Sep 2019 #36
Women are leading the way mcar Sep 2019 #37
We are one woman. sheshe2 Sep 2019 #42
OMG! sheshe2 Sep 2019 #68
The point they're trying to make is very clear. Did you see their interview or read this on CNN? George II Sep 2019 #12
Yes I did melman Sep 2019 #13
Yes I did notice that. So which did you do - read the article or watch the interview? George II Sep 2019 #16
Good question George. sheshe2 Sep 2019 #34
OMG - I had not noticed that in all the news ,,, alittlelark Sep 2019 #14
Can we bring this up later, AFTER the threat to the free world is gone? ffr Sep 2019 #15
that's dangerous ... Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #18
If I wasn't clear, I'm asking politely. Please do not burn down the democratic party right now ffr Sep 2019 #19
I understand your intent. Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #20
Then maybe these five shouldn't be doing CNN profiles and WP 0P-EDs melman Sep 2019 #22
So which "higher up" are you trying to bash here? Jeffries, Hoyer, or Pelosi? George II Sep 2019 #24
What is the key word there? nt BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #58
So. sheshe2 Sep 2019 #67
That won't happen. nt coti Sep 2019 #27
so there's your answer. NO!! stopdiggin Sep 2019 #51
NO Skittles Sep 2019 #29
Red Herring fallacy. I didn't say that, YOU said that (revisions of history). ffr Sep 2019 #32
LOLOL Skittles Sep 2019 #41
What is this civility you speak of? intheflow Sep 2019 #72
Dan Rather melman Sep 2019 #17
Trump calls them "savages," CNN just pretends they don't exist... regnaD kciN Sep 2019 #33
In this case, it's ignoring the people who were right all along... Iggo Sep 2019 #21
Indeed, we'll revisit it- just don't let the cowards rewrite history in the meantime coti Sep 2019 #26
Oh yeah, fuck CNN for this. But I'm not going to fight Democrats over it right now. Iggo Sep 2019 #48
Oh good lord. Stinky The Clown Sep 2019 #23
Don't like Bossip? melman Sep 2019 #35
Why the hell are you trying to pit one DEMOCRATIC WOMAN against the other? sheshe2 Sep 2019 #43
I'm not doing that melman Sep 2019 #45
You use the word bait alot. sheshe2 Sep 2019 #47
Yyyuuup. coti Sep 2019 #25
A near perfect example of racial injustice ismnotwasm Sep 2019 #38
Wow it takes a mighty stretch to find a Bernie bash angle in this melman Sep 2019 #39
Wait, WHAT? ismnotwasm Sep 2019 #40
hmmmm sheshe2 Sep 2019 #54
I think it's a riff on when the media talked about "economic anxiety" instead of racism... Iggo Sep 2019 #50
Wow, racism in real time! catrose Sep 2019 #44
Some folks need a trip out behind the proverbial woodshed. KY_EnviroGuy Sep 2019 #46
This happens all the time and I'm sick of it! ecstatic Sep 2019 #49
No, they think about what "middle America" thinks, regardless of "trumpuglicans". Remember.... George II Sep 2019 #55
I love both the squad and the bad asses. OldRed2450 Sep 2019 #52
Bazinga! George II Sep 2019 #53
Rememeber Romper Room? sheshe2 Sep 2019 #56
"There goes Jupiter, here comes Mars!!!!" George II Sep 2019 #59
That show...and her outfit! sheshe2 Sep 2019 #63
+1 treestar Sep 2019 #69
Gossip ... is the key word. nt BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #57
Or bossip. George II Sep 2019 #60
Gossip. sheshe2 Sep 2019 #66
This is what we're worried about? BlueTsunami2018 Sep 2019 #61
It must be hard to be pissed off about other democrats all the time. SlogginThroughIt Sep 2019 #62
Thank you. sheshe2 Sep 2019 #64
Same as it ever was lunasun Sep 2019 #65
I posted about this yesterday morning. intheflow Sep 2019 #70

live love laugh

(16,383 posts)
71. CNN is Republican Owned Media (too)
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 04:19 PM
Sep 2019

Too many “trust” CNN way more than is deserved.

The only reason CNN can be so “candid” is Republicans also have another 98 percent of dishonest media outlets constantly spewing disinformation to millions.

Turin_C3PO

(16,385 posts)
3. They all deserve credit.
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 07:59 PM
Sep 2019

We need our progressives and our moderates both in this fight against fascism.

fleabiscuit

(4,542 posts)
7. CNN did differentiate by including that they won in Trump won districts.
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 08:38 PM
Sep 2019

Not my term, but “the Squad” were in pretty solid districts for them.

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
9. There's more to it than that
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 08:48 PM
Sep 2019

Watch the video. There is some serious 'shade' thrown at the Squad.


“None of us is going to get in a Twitter war with anyone else,” Slotkin said flatly. “If we have a concern with someone, we’re going to go right up and talk to them about it and we’re not going to add unhelpful rhetoric to an already bad tone coming out of Washington.”

Have they been frustrated that “the squad” and Twitter wars they’re involved in get attention?
“I don’t care who has the headlines,” Spanberger responded. “I care about the legislation that we prioritize and I don’t think any of us want to be the loudest voice in the room. I just want to be one of the most effective.”

https://bossip.com/1793433/cnn-whitewashes-impeachment-leaders/





sheshe2

(97,623 posts)
10. Bossip?
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 09:18 PM
Sep 2019
Bossip is an online gossip and entertainment magazine with a focus on African American celebrities. The site is owned by Moguldom Media Group. Bossip is based in Atlanta, Georgia.

Interviews[edit]
Bossip has interviewed celebrities such as Kanye West, Janet Jackson, Sanaa Lathan, Russell Simmons and Damon Dash. Another exclusive interview Bossip had done is with Kim Kardashian, talking about her life, career, relationships and the infamous sex tape with R&B singer and younger brother of Brandy, Ray J.[1]
Awards[edit]

In October, 2006, Bossip published its first annual Style Awards with Diddy getting the title as best dressed African-American celebrity and Serena Williams as worst dressed.[2]

Two months later in December, Bossip published a new "award" for most annoying celebrity of 2006 with R&B/Pop singer and actress Beyoncé Knowles as 1st position, Actor Taye Diggs at 10th position and rapper Kanye West with an honorable mention.[3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bossip

Bossip is a gossip rag.

sheshe2

(97,623 posts)
28. My point.
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 10:06 PM
Sep 2019

Bossip is a gossip and entertainment site. Our current crisis is not gossip or entertainment. At least not to me.

I saw the CNN interview with the five. These woman were expressing their views and their work ethic. These women are working just as hard as the ones you name/ they named themselves, the Squad. I saw no such thing as "Whitewashing" as Twitter seems to be pushing. I see hard working women doing their jobs.

The article is nothing more than a way to divide these women into isolated quadrants. Then twitter drags in Auntie Maxine to give them some credibility. Do NOT ever use Auntie Maxine as a tool. Not ever.

Black and White. Fact is they are all women.

George II

(67,782 posts)
16. Yes I did notice that. So which did you do - read the article or watch the interview?
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 09:42 PM
Sep 2019

sheshe2

(97,623 posts)
34. Good question George.
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 10:19 PM
Sep 2019

The interview was fantastic.

We don't need a party of 100% moderate or Progressive. We are a diverse nation in our political beliefs and we are a country of many colors.

Bossip is just trying to stir up shit, just like the twitter feed. Whitewashing my ass.

ffr

(23,398 posts)
15. Can we bring this up later, AFTER the threat to the free world is gone?
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 09:40 PM
Sep 2019

When civility is restored, then we can argue about who said what between ourselves. But now is probably not the best of times for this.

ffr

(23,398 posts)
19. If I wasn't clear, I'm asking politely. Please do not burn down the democratic party right now
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 09:48 PM
Sep 2019

The only thing stopping a madman from killing people is our current elected democratic officials, all of them. We need

ALL
OF
THEM.


Please? Another time. Weeks. Thank you.

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
20. I understand your intent.
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 09:50 PM
Sep 2019

I do NOT believe CNN should get a pass on this. Truth should not be postponed while digging for truth.

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
22. Then maybe these five shouldn't be doing CNN profiles and WP 0P-EDs
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 09:59 PM
Sep 2019

about how they're "badasses" and other members are "adding unhelpful rhetoric to an already bad tone coming out of Washington." etc


Just a thought. Also, do you think these things happen without approval from higher up? I personally don't.

sheshe2

(97,623 posts)
67. So.
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 01:01 AM
Sep 2019
melman
22. Then maybe these five shouldn't be doing CNN profiles and WP 0P-EDs

about how they're "badasses" and other members are "adding unhelpful rhetoric to an already bad tone coming out of Washington." etc


So what you are saying here loud and clear is that only women that you agree with should have a voice and the ones you don't should sit down and shut up.

Frankly? I for one wish to hear from all of them. May not agree with them all, yet their voices should be heard.

stopdiggin

(15,463 posts)
51. so there's your answer. NO!!
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 11:28 PM
Sep 2019

we insist on our right to rip the sh*t out of each other .. and the party. "we have met the enemy ..."

Skittles

(171,709 posts)
29. NO
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 10:07 PM
Sep 2019

revisions of history need to be corrected IMMEDIATELY

Maxine was onto Trump from Day One and has worked HARD trying to get that message across

it is a TRAVESTY seeing her overlooked

ffr

(23,398 posts)
32. Red Herring fallacy. I didn't say that, YOU said that (revisions of history).
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 10:17 PM
Sep 2019

I'm asking politely. Please do not scuttle our democratic caucus right now. Can you not see what is happening tonight? FFS!!

I will be happy to entertain, as I'm sure most of us will be, any and all concerns in a couple of weeks when our lives (Civil War) doesn't bear fruit. The stakes TONIGHT are too high.

I beg of you, please. Put it on the backburner for now.

intheflow

(30,179 posts)
72. What is this civility you speak of?
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 05:24 PM
Sep 2019

Last edited Fri Oct 4, 2019, 11:30 AM - Edit history (2)

This country has NEVER been civil to people of color. Even when Obama was president, elected members of Congress publicly called him a liar, a Muslim, and said he should go back to Kenya. They called Michelle an ape and worse. Civility in our governmental process has been a white fantasy.

Meanwhile, I don't want a Democratic party that can't take criticism from within. Obama ran on Hope and Change. How about we listen to people of color and validate their observations on the process for a change.

Iggo

(49,927 posts)
21. In this case, it's ignoring the people who were right all along...
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 09:52 PM
Sep 2019

...and celebrating the people who were wrong until this week.

It's happened before, it's happening now, and it'll happen again.

But I agree with the poster upstairs that we should fight about it after the current emergency.

coti

(4,625 posts)
26. Indeed, we'll revisit it- just don't let the cowards rewrite history in the meantime
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 10:04 PM
Sep 2019

Because they're already trying.

Iggo

(49,927 posts)
48. Oh yeah, fuck CNN for this. But I'm not going to fight Democrats over it right now.
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 11:22 PM
Sep 2019

sheshe2

(97,623 posts)
43. Why the hell are you trying to pit one DEMOCRATIC WOMAN against the other?
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 10:58 PM
Sep 2019

Why?!

Their beliefs are alike. They do them differently. In the end they want the same damn thing, trump out of office.

sheshe2

(97,623 posts)
47. You use the word bait alot.
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 11:08 PM
Sep 2019

I asked a question on a discussion board. Sorry you are unable to answer the simple question...and yes you are. White vs Black.

United Nations

A song for UN Women.

coti

(4,625 posts)
25. Yyyuuup.
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 10:03 PM
Sep 2019

Hey, it wasn't cowardice, it was just being afraid of what was going to happen...

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
39. Wow it takes a mighty stretch to find a Bernie bash angle in this
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 10:38 PM
Sep 2019

But you still managed to do it. Well done.

Iggo

(49,927 posts)
50. I think it's a riff on when the media talked about "economic anxiety" instead of racism...
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 11:28 PM
Sep 2019

...after the 2016 election, CNN included.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,782 posts)
46. Some folks need a trip out behind the proverbial woodshed.
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 11:02 PM
Sep 2019

People have nothing better to complain about than who yelled first and the loudest about impeachment while the GOP trudges on dismantling decades of progress that benefits the American public and a pResident that's not worthy to be dog catcher.

See:
If you have any last wishes, act on them now. I have decided to end mankind. (credit to DetlefK)
Link: https://www.democraticunderground.com/10181265473

Did I miss a crucial point somewhere in that Trasher post?....... .......

ecstatic

(35,075 posts)
49. This happens all the time and I'm sick of it!
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 11:25 PM
Sep 2019

The media only cares about what "middle america" trumpuglicans think.

George II

(67,782 posts)
55. No, they think about what "middle America" thinks, regardless of "trumpuglicans". Remember....
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 11:46 PM
Sep 2019

...the dust up between Cortez and Tammy Duckworth regarding Midwestern political ideology last year? Who turned out to be correct?

Remember the campaigning by so-called Democratic "progressives" in the Midwest last year? Who wound up on top? It was moderates like Lacy Clay, Sharice Davids, Gretchen Witmer, et. al.

"Middle America" politics is completely different from East or West Coast politics (and I'm a native New Yorker) Which states lost the election for us in 2016? Not Washington, Oregon, California, New England, New York, New Jersey, etc. It was Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, Indiana.

 

OldRed2450

(710 posts)
52. I love both the squad and the bad asses.
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 11:28 PM
Sep 2019

They both bring great qualities to the party. Don't fall for division.

sheshe2

(97,623 posts)
56. Rememeber Romper Room?
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 11:47 PM
Sep 2019

Bend and stretch reach for the sky. Stand on tippy toes. My oh my.

sheshe2

(97,623 posts)
63. That show...and her outfit!
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 12:12 AM
Sep 2019

I was on stage for Rex Trailer. Boomtown!

It was a birthday party...

treestar

(82,383 posts)
69. +1
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 05:29 AM
Sep 2019

No one was "erased." The point was that more moderate people are coming around to impeachment. Geez some people just want to be victims. It is not lacking "courage" not to support impeachment right away when they were from reddish districts. Making it about race when it was about the nature of the district is just trying to be a victim. And these are Democrats, not even Republicans, or deplorables.

The one thought the rhetoric from AOC was "unhelpful." That's supposed to be racist, you see, just disagreeing with AOC. Or not even that, just saying her methods aren't persuasive to the majority.

 

BlueMississippi

(776 posts)
57. Gossip ... is the key word. nt
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 11:49 PM
Sep 2019

WaPo is pitting some Democrats against other Democrats. We should not encourage it.

sheshe2

(97,623 posts)
66. Gossip.
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 12:43 AM
Sep 2019

It is the key word.

My gosh! Did ya hear what five women said about those four women? OMG.

Ummm.

 

SlogginThroughIt

(1,977 posts)
62. It must be hard to be pissed off about other democrats all the time.
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 12:01 AM
Sep 2019

There were others that tipped the scales. Ones like Angie Craig in MN who took over a district from Jason Lewis who couldn't come out in favor of impeachment right away but because we have to hold numbers to keep the house and knowing that there are a lot of moderate constituents in her district she had to wait. There are a lot of those folks that in the end yes... did tip the scale.

intheflow

(30,179 posts)
70. I posted about this yesterday morning.
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 01:39 PM
Sep 2019

The backlash was more civil than a lot of what I've seen on DU over the years, but white fragility was in full display.

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