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librechik

(30,957 posts)
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 12:59 PM Sep 2019

Biden needs to go after the Trump kids. Carefully, factually and relentlessly.

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Omaha Steve (a host of the General Discussion forum).

I know he won't like it. But this is war, according to Trump. Trump goes after his son, Biden goes after all of them. So much to talk about. And none of it is about past Biden gaffes and so on.

Make it so! (I dream of Jeanie blink, with elbow cross)

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Biden needs to go after the Trump kids. Carefully, factually and relentlessly. (Original Post) librechik Sep 2019 OP
Leave Tiffany and Barron out of it exboyfil Sep 2019 #1
Of course. Only the crooked ones, including Kushner. librechik Sep 2019 #8
No, he doesn't need to do that. MineralMan Sep 2019 #2
Right!! Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #7
So agree. Wellstone ruled Sep 2019 #17
Agreed! Best to get surrogates to do things like that... NurseJackie Sep 2019 #32
Jr., Ivanka, and Eric are grown ups with skeletons of their own...... ProudMNDemocrat Sep 2019 #3
It isn't consistent with Biden and that which makes him the front runner in so many people's minds hlthe2b Sep 2019 #4
Right not Joe himself, but a clever spokesperson. librechik Sep 2019 #9
no... FirstLight Sep 2019 #5
No, someone else needs to do that, someone not directly associated The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2019 #6
The MSM needs to do this! RainCaster Sep 2019 #12
+10000 Pachamama Sep 2019 #15
Someone does--but not Joe Lulu KC Sep 2019 #10
Agree blm Sep 2019 #21
I of course will settle for this. But the fair game rule should apply right now. librechik Sep 2019 #23
That is what surrogates are for empedocles Sep 2019 #28
No. He needs to go after Trump. ooky Sep 2019 #11
Nope! Newest Reality Sep 2019 #13
This belongs in Democratic Primaries. It's about Biden. MineralMan Sep 2019 #14
This is why superpacs are useful. A friendly superpac can do the dirty comradebillyboy Sep 2019 #16
Harry Truman said" I don't give em hell. I give em the truth and they think it's hell." librechik Sep 2019 #18
I think not. Media is finally engaged in countering Trump's lies blm Sep 2019 #19
No. Employing their tactics is not how we win. Claritie Pixie Sep 2019 #20
We would not be employing their tactics. They are lying about Hunter's situation librechik Sep 2019 #22
No. cwydro Sep 2019 #24
NOT Biden. The House. Hekate Sep 2019 #25
no handmade34 Sep 2019 #26
Okay, okay, you have talked me down. Sheesh. I am so frustrated by the silence! librechik Sep 2019 #27
Mods, I apologize for posting in the wrong forum librechik Sep 2019 #29
Yes, especially Ivanka. Though let surrogates do the heavy lifting. OnDoutside Sep 2019 #30
yes, thanks, I get it now. librechik Sep 2019 #31
Lol ! OnDoutside Sep 2019 #33
After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING Omaha Steve Sep 2019 #34

exboyfil

(18,359 posts)
1. Leave Tiffany and Barron out of it
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 01:00 PM
Sep 2019

librechik

(30,957 posts)
8. Of course. Only the crooked ones, including Kushner.
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 01:12 PM
Sep 2019

Poor Barron! OMG I feel so bad for that boy! He should take a vacation in Europe for a year or so with Melancholia. They can avoid most of the heartbreak that way.

MineralMan

(151,269 posts)
2. No, he doesn't need to do that.
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 01:02 PM
Sep 2019

He's better than that, and he won't do that.

Silliness!

Thekaspervote

(35,820 posts)
7. Right!!
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 01:11 PM
Sep 2019

That would look desperate and Joe is anything but!!

The dotard ilk will say plenty to sink themselves b4 it’s over

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
17. So agree.
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 01:19 PM
Sep 2019

Best to stay out of that Out House.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
32. Agreed! Best to get surrogates to do things like that...
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 01:50 PM
Sep 2019

... apparently.

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,898 posts)
3. Jr., Ivanka, and Eric are grown ups with skeletons of their own......
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 01:07 PM
Sep 2019

If they so as much mention anything about Hunter Biden, despite the debunking of this, they are all fair game.

hlthe2b

(113,974 posts)
4. It isn't consistent with Biden and that which makes him the front runner in so many people's minds
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 01:08 PM
Sep 2019

at least for now. He can speak out as necessary, of course, but he can't let Trump define him or his candidacy and what he stands for--nor the policies he supports.

I do think someone needs to develop a concerted message that certainly touches on the adult Trump children, their hypocrisy, and most of all their benefits from the overt violation of emoluments clause, but I think it needs to be a 501-C/501 3-C or other pro-Dem group. Surely when Warren or another candidate hits Trump's radar, they too will be the focus of such organized lie campaigns. The group(s) needs to be prepared to defend them all against overt lies from the RW.

librechik

(30,957 posts)
9. Right not Joe himself, but a clever spokesperson.
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 01:14 PM
Sep 2019

sigh. Democrats have no media strategy to speak of, IMO.

FirstLight

(15,771 posts)
5. no...
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 01:09 PM
Sep 2019

Keep the narrative focused on Impeachment and the specific crime at hand

the rest will sort out in time, but right now ANY other mudslinging will just be distraction.
Besides, let's NOT stoop to their level...

The Velveteen Ocelot

(130,538 posts)
6. No, someone else needs to do that, someone not directly associated
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 01:11 PM
Sep 2019

with Biden. He shouldn't get involved in that at all because it just allows the GOP to keep talking about Hunter. It's enough for Dem organizations and PACs to point out the corruption of the entire Trump family.

RainCaster

(13,721 posts)
12. The MSM needs to do this!
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 01:15 PM
Sep 2019

Where is the backbone in the media?

Pachamama

(17,564 posts)
15. +10000
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 01:19 PM
Sep 2019

Completely agree with you

Lulu KC

(8,893 posts)
10. Someone does--but not Joe
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 01:14 PM
Sep 2019

or any other candidate.
However, there are plenty of others who should be! Too numerous to count!

blm

(114,658 posts)
21. Agree
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 01:24 PM
Sep 2019

librechik

(30,957 posts)
23. I of course will settle for this. But the fair game rule should apply right now.
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 01:30 PM
Sep 2019

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
28. That is what surrogates are for
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 01:38 PM
Sep 2019

ooky

(10,922 posts)
11. No. He needs to go after Trump.
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 01:15 PM
Sep 2019

And, he has plenty to go after.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
13. Nope!
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 01:17 PM
Sep 2019

That's part of the problem.

Maybe save it for another time. Let's not continue the fallacy of deflection and false equivalences. That's what has to stop. In this case, it would look more like revenge, too. I want that Republican tactic to be outed and cast aside. It is obvious and it merely serves as nothing but distraction and subterfuge. Let's not normalize it or adopt it.

I think the Trump Fam will get their muck stirred up in all of this and any comeuppance will arrive at a later date as a matter of course. They are probably just as culpable in the smorgasbord of dirty deals that surround their Dad, at least peripherally.

Right now: Law, truth and justice and process. We have what we need and have to stay on that firmly, even beyond partisanship and the political aspects.

MineralMan

(151,269 posts)
14. This belongs in Democratic Primaries. It's about Biden.
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 01:17 PM
Sep 2019

comradebillyboy

(10,955 posts)
16. This is why superpacs are useful. A friendly superpac can do the dirty
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 01:19 PM
Sep 2019

work and the candidate doesn't get dirty.

librechik

(30,957 posts)
18. Harry Truman said" I don't give em hell. I give em the truth and they think it's hell."
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 01:19 PM
Sep 2019

Maybe it has to be someone other than Joe (although I don't think so. )

If I was Joe I would be righteously furious. I would like to see more of that from him, and this mild response to these bombshells--I don't think it's helping anyone.and there could be no better spokesman. Joe himself said he would take Trump behind the barn and show him what happens to bullies. Now's the chance, since he's wrongly dissing Hunter.

Come on, folks. Let's fight them! We won't have a more fitting and obvious an opportunity. I want Warren to chime in.

Sure, it's not like us. And who we have been being has led us to Trump. Rise up!

blm

(114,658 posts)
19. I think not. Media is finally engaged in countering Trump's lies
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 01:21 PM
Sep 2019

against Biden. Biden should just run his campaign.

Claritie Pixie

(2,199 posts)
20. No. Employing their tactics is not how we win.
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 01:22 PM
Sep 2019

librechik

(30,957 posts)
22. We would not be employing their tactics. They are lying about Hunter's situation
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 01:28 PM
Sep 2019

And we would only be delivering the truth as it has been reported and confirmed. You fight lies with the truth. That is not the same tactic, it is fighting back like good people do.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
24. No.
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 01:30 PM
Sep 2019

Also, wrong forum.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
25. NOT Biden. The House.
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 01:35 PM
Sep 2019

handmade34

(24,017 posts)
26. no
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 01:36 PM
Sep 2019

librechik

(30,957 posts)
27. Okay, okay, you have talked me down. Sheesh. I am so frustrated by the silence!
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 01:38 PM
Sep 2019

Really? Okay. But Dems need a lot of this. Yes, from the House.

librechik

(30,957 posts)
29. Mods, I apologize for posting in the wrong forum
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 01:42 PM
Sep 2019

although I believe my topic is the impeachment and not the primaries.

OnDoutside

(20,868 posts)
30. Yes, especially Ivanka. Though let surrogates do the heavy lifting.
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 01:45 PM
Sep 2019

librechik

(30,957 posts)
31. yes, thanks, I get it now.
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 01:49 PM
Sep 2019

OnDoutside

(20,868 posts)
33. Lol !
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 01:57 PM
Sep 2019

Omaha Steve

(109,238 posts)
34. After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 02:09 PM
Sep 2019

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