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Tue Oct 1, 2019, 07:49 PM

At this point, what do you think will be the outcome of Trump impeachment proceedings?

Here are the likely options as I see it:

1. House inquiry does not result in impeachment vote (extremely unlikely but who knows?)
2. House votes to impeach but Senate acquits or avoids a vote altogether (most likely scenario, IMO)
3. Senate convicts Trump and Pence becomes POTUS (only likely if something drastic happens)
4. At some point before Senate conviction vote, Trump resigns (not a chance in hell for that narcissistic a-hole IMO)
5. Other outcome?

Most of my (non-DU) friends are afraid to even be hopeful.

I know some say there's another option: Pence & Trump get impeached and Pelosi becomes POTUS, but as I understand it, the timing would have to be such that both are removed at the same time. Otherwise whoever's POTUS can name a new VP. And I DO think there's a long line of bootlicking thugs who would take the job.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 07:54 PM

1. A convenient 'health episode' that makes his departure necessary?

He can claim it's stress related and we are all to blame. I can shoulder that, with no problem.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 07:54 PM

2. House impeached, McConnel refuses to hold trial. Pulls Merrill Garland

defense that Nov 2020 will be trial.

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Response to beachbumbob (Reply #2)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 07:56 PM

3. McConnel has stated he has to hold trial by senate rules. I don't think he cares about rules or law

... but this one he put on the line during talking head shows on Sunday.

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #3)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 08:03 PM

4. He also caveated that it didn't have to be very long. If it's a Kavanaugh-style fix job,

then they can say he was acquitted. I don't believe McTurtle will hold a trial without knowing the outcome first.

Unless of course, he's ready to rid the (R)s of the albatross that is Donald Trump. But the (R) senators might get voted out by their so-called "base". I doubt the (Rs) will take the chance of losing Senate majority.

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #3)

Wed Oct 2, 2019, 06:57 AM

13. no such thing has Senate rules on impeachment, rules are whatever they vote with a simple majority

to change

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 08:04 PM

5. trump and repubs overthrow the govt with backing from the military? nt

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 08:08 PM

6. Still too early. Ask again in 3 weeks.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 08:19 PM

7. It ain't gonna happen:

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 08:23 PM

8. He will be impeached in the House.

Even if he's not removed by the Senate, trump will be consumed by anger, bitterness and depression. He'll attack both Democrats and repubs alike. He'll also rat out all of his co-conspirators. His own supporters will eventually become disgusted by the prolonged victim / crybaby act.

Next spring, trump will opt out of all the debates and probably stop holding his own rallies when the crowds diminish. Polls will predict a massive landslide for the Democrats; still, he'll resist the calls to step down for the good of his party.

Finally, the nightmare will end on election day. After the massive defeat, trump won't resign, but he'll depart from the White House, never to return again. He'll say he doesn't need a pardon because he's innocent. With trump absent and uninterested in performing his duties, Pence will be the unofficial president until January 21, 2021.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 08:28 PM

9. Not a damn thing except

ratings for "news" and late night TV going up.

Oh they'll drag his name through the meat grinder. Maybe even pick off a few more low hanging grapes for the orange jumpsuit brigade. But no chance is he removed nor quits.

I'll be honest, I'm not even sure he loses re-election. Please understand, I think the world of every single one of the Democratic Party candidates. Cream of the Crop... all of them. But the American voter has not left me very hopeful. Add in the shenanigans with voting itself, and meddling too... I'm just not optimistic.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 08:34 PM

10. I feel like an optimist picking #2.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 08:40 PM

11. Number 2. n/t

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 09:00 PM

12. It is hard to say until it plays out. However it is looking like the administration is amping up the

obstruction of justice. It will be interesting to see what the IG has to say.

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