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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe only reason he mentioned China this morning is that he knows
Schiff et al will discover that he was and is attempting to shake them down as well. This while he fucks up farmers, manufacturers and merchants.
doc03
(39,086 posts)malaise
(296,110 posts)as in mobster rule
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)quo.
malaise
(296,110 posts)doc03
(39,086 posts)the movie. Joe Pesci could play Barr
malaise
(296,110 posts)Bangs head
Cirque du So-What
(29,732 posts)in a modified Fat Bastard costume.
world wide wally
(21,836 posts)If they find dirt on Biden, he won't say a word about their crackdown on protesters.
spanone
(141,611 posts)spanone
(141,611 posts)keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)His master Putin.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)...then it can't be wrong." And if Dems aren't careful, it'll work. Republicans have long understood better than Democrats, it seems, the power of narrative and simple messaging.
In addition to repeating a simple phrase repeatedly (Transparent illegality is still illegality.), it would be good for Dems to actually talk at press conferences about the strategy/tactic that Trump and Republicans are employing. Don't assume that people will recognize it for what it is. You can't overestimate the ignorance of the American people. Help people see, in simple terms, what is happening.
Something short and easily understood like this:
Transparent illegality is still illegality. The president and Republicans want you to think what they're doing and have been doing is okay because they are admitting it openly, which is because they got caught. This is a tactic. What they are doing is not okay. It's a crime. It's an impeachable offense to collude with a foreign government for political gain. The president is committing crimes. Don't be fooled by their tactic. Again, transparent illegality is still illegality. Crimes that are out in the open are still crimes.
Hillary's tweet from earlier today should be repeated by every Dem over and over and over again.
Repeated by every Dem who makes a public appearance, day after day after day. Hold a press conference every fucking day to address Republican lies. Do not assume that letting them spew nonsense will hurt them. Or else they will establish the dominant narrative. Guaranteed.
malaise
(296,110 posts)Too late
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)...overwhelming support among the public. A public that is, sadly, pretty damn gullible and ignorant. Support for impeachment is moving in the right direction, but we need it to keep moving.
malaise
(296,110 posts)We do need to keep it moving
oswaldactedalone
(3,603 posts)Garrett78. I'm behind you on 100% on that. Messaging is crucial. We have a chance to bury these bastards and all Dems need to be grabbing shovels.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)...a friend of Brian's expressed dismay over the fact that they weren't immediately giving a press conference regarding Trump committing an impeachable offense on national television.
I suggested more than a year ago that the DNC hire someone (maybe John Fugelsang) to hold a weekly or even daily press conference for the sole purpose of addressing Trump/Republican lies/obfuscation. Democrats have got to be ready to pounce every single time Republicans attempt to establish what could potentially become the dominant (and destructive) narrative. If Pelosi and Schiff aren't going to be available at a moment's notice, at least we'd have a DNC spokesperson at the ready.
We...must...control...the...narrative.
Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)doc03
(39,086 posts)get dirt on Biden I will drop trade war. Then I just got a news bulletin on smart news that Trump said he would be quiet on the Hong Kong demonstrations if he got something on Biden. This f---g nut is capable of anything.
malaise
(296,110 posts)for everyone - a shakedown - that's the art of his deal
Kaiserguy
(740 posts)rather Art of the Steal
malaise
(296,110 posts)spanone
(141,611 posts)malaise
(296,110 posts)ITTMF RFN!
spanone
(141,611 posts)ooky
(10,922 posts)"there is nothing wrong with what I am doing". That is what he intends to sell. He thinks that the more times he throws it out, the more believable that defense will be. I think maybe that's all the China thing is. Of course, a key difference is he didn't try to shake China down first.
Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)malaise
(296,110 posts)kentuck
(115,406 posts)He is trying to disarm the issue before it becomes public.
He is on the run.
malaise
(296,110 posts)Drip drip drip is now a water fail of shakedowns
bucolic_frolic
(55,140 posts)the list of new possible charges grows every day
kentuck
(115,406 posts)So he thinks China should investigate the Bidens also?
He knew that he had already asked China to investigate and he tries to head it off at the pass and minimize by defining it himself.
It's a disturbing pattern.
If tomorrow, he comes out and says that he thinks North Korea should investigate also, can we be fairly certain that he has already asked North Korea to investigate the Bidens?
He has a habit of publicizing all his crimes before they are discovered.
malaise
(296,110 posts)It will eventually bring him down.
Dems need to be clear that he is not investigating corruption - he and his goons are corrupting other governments to to achieve his political goals.