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Thu Oct 3, 2019, 09:41 PM

BREAKING - Adam Schiff releases info on key documents (texts) tonight!





Adam Schiff

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After receiving a trove of important documents from the first of the state department witnesses, my fellow chairs and I highlight some of those deserving of the most attention and what is at stake.


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Reply BREAKING - Adam Schiff releases info on key documents (texts) tonight! (Original post)
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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Thu Oct 3, 2019, 09:49 PM

1. Full Text. I bolded some DAMNING sections!!

I think. Used an online converter

October 3, 2019

Members of the Intelligence, Oversight and Reform, and Foreign Affairs Committees
Washington, D.C. 20515

Dear Colleagues:

We are writing to convey our grave concerns with the unprecedented actions of President
Donald Trump and his Administration with respect to the House of Representatives’
impeachment inquiry.

The President and his aides are engaging in a campaign of misinformation and
misdirection in an attempt to normalize the act of soliciting foreign powers to interfere in our
elections.

We have all now seen the summary of the call in which President Trump repeatedly
urged the Ukrainian President to launch an investigation into former Vice President Joe Biden—
immediately after the Ukrainian President mentioned critical U.S. military assistance to counter
Russian aggression.

The President claims he did nothing wrong. Even more astonishing, he is now openly
and publicly asking another foreign power—China—to launch its own sham investigation
against the Bidens to further his own political aims.


This is not normal or acceptable. It is unethical, unpatriotic, and wrong. American
Presidents should never press foreign powers to target their domestic political rivals. Engaging
in these stunning abuses in broad daylight does not absolve President Trump of his
wrongdoingswr his grave offenses against the Constitution.

Over the past week, new repoxts have revealed that other Trump Administration officials
also may have been involved in the illicit effort to get Ukrainian help for the President’s
campaign.

For example, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has now admitted that he was on the call
when President Trump explicitly pressed the Ukrainian President to investigate the Bidens—
but failed to report this to the FBI or other law enforcement authorities
. You will recall, FBI
Director Christopher Wray urged individuals to report efforts to seek or receive help from a
foreign power that may intervene in a U.S. presidential election.

This obligation is not diminished when the instigator of that foreign intervention is the
President of the United States; it is all the more crucial to the security of our elections. Instead,
when asked by the media about his own knowledge or participation in the call, Secretary
Pompeo dissembled.

PRINTED ON RECYCLED PAPER

Likewise, we are investigating reports that Vice President Mike Pence may have been
made aware of the contents of the call, and his absence from the Ukrainian President’s
inauguration may have been related to efforts to put additional pressure on Ukraine to deliver on
the President’s demands,


This week, current and former State Department officials have begun cooperating with
the impeachment inquiry by producing documents and scheduling interviews and depositions.
Based on the first production of materials, it has become immediately apparent why Secretary
Pompeo tried to block these officials from providing information.

The Committees have now obtained text messages from Ambassador Kurt Volker, the
former Special Representative for Ukraine Negotiations, communicating with other officials,
including William B. “Bill” Taylor, the Charge d’Affaires at the U.S. Embassy in Ukraine,
Gordon Sondland, the U.S. Ambassador to the European Union, Andrey Yermak, Aide to
Ukrainian President Zelensky, the President’s agent Rudy Giuliani, and others.

These text messages reflect serious concerns raised by a State Department official about
the detrimental effects of withholding critical military assistance from Ukraine, and the
importance of setting up a meeting between President Trump and the Ukrainian President
without further delay, He also directly expressed concerns that this critical military assistance
and the meeting between the two presidents were being withheld in order to place additienal
pressure 011 Ukraine to deliver on the President’s demand for Ukraine to launch politically
motivated investigations

Earlier today, selected portions of these texts were leaked to the press out of context. In
order to help correct the public record, we are now providing an attachment with more complete
excerpts from the exchanges. The additional excerpts we are providing are still only a subset of
the full body of the materials, which we hope to make public after a review for personally
identifiable information.


Our investigation will continue in the coming days. But we hope every Member of the
House will join us in condemning in the strongest terms the President’s now open defiance of our
core values as American citizens to guard against foreign interference in our democratic process.





Sincerely,
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Eliot L. Engel Adam B. Schiff
Chairman Chairman
House Committee on Foreign Affairs House Permanent Select Committee

on Intelligence

Elijah Ev. Cummings

Chairman
House Committee on Oversight and Reform

ATTACHMEN T

Connecting Rudy Giuliani with Ukraine President Zelenskv’s Adviser: On July 19,
Ambassador Volker texted President Trump’s agent, Rudy Giuliani, to thank him for
breakfast and to introduce him to Andrey Yermak, a top advisor to President Zelensky:

[7/19/19, 4:48 PM] Kurt Volker: Mr Mayor — really enjoyed breakfast this
morning. As discussed, connecting you here with Andrey Yermak, who is very
close to President Zelensky. I suggest we schedule a call together on Monday 4
maybe 10am or 11am Washington time? Kurt

Sondland Briefs Zelenskv Ahead of Call with President Trump: On July 19, 2019,
Ambassador Volker, Ambassador Sondland, and Mr. Taylor had the following exchange
about the specific goal for the upcoming telephone call between President Trump and the
Ukrainian Presicient:

[7/ 19/ 1 9, 4:49:42 PM] Kurt Volker: Can we three do a call tomorrow—say noon
WASHINGTON?

[7/ 19/19, 6:50:29 PM] Gordon Sondland: Looks like Potus call tomorrow. I spike
[sic] directly to Zelensky and gave him a full briefing. He’s got it.

[7/19/19, 6:52:57 PM] Gordon Sondland: Sure!

[7/ 1 9/ 19, 7:01 :22 PM] Kurt Volker: Good. Had breakfast with Rudy this
morning—teeing up call w Yennak Monday. Must have helped. Most impt is for
Zelensky to say that he will help investigationwand address any specific
personnel issues4if there are any

Concerns about Ukraine Becoming an “Instrument” in U.S. Politics: On J uly 21,
2019, Ambassador Taylor flagged President Ze1ensky’s desire for Ukraine not to be used
by the Trump Administration for its own domestic political purposes:

[7/21/ 19, 1:45:54 AM] Bill Taylor: Gordon, one thing Kurt and I talked about
yesterday was Sasha Danyliuk’s point that President Zelenskyy is sensitive about
Ukraine being taken seriously, not merely as an instrument in Washington
domestic, reelection politics.

[7/21/19, 4:45:44 AM] Gordon Sondland: Absolutely, but we need to get the
conversation started and the relationship built, irrespective of the pretext. I am
worried about the alternative.

Giuliani Advocates for Trumn-Zelenskv Call: Mr. Yerrnak and Mr. Giuliani agreed to
speak on the morning of July 22. Later that evening, Ambassador Volker informed
Ambassadors Sondland and Taylor that Giuliani was now “advocating” for a phone call
between President Trump and President Zelensky:

[7/22/19 4:27:55 PM] Kurt Volker: Orchestrated a great phone call w Rudy and
Yermak. They are going to get together when Rudy goes to Madrid in a couple of
weeks.

[7/22/ 19 4:28:08 PM] Kurt Volker: In the meantime Rudy is now advocating for
phone call.

[7/22/ 19 4:28:26 PM] Kurt Volker: I have call into Fiona’s replacement and will
call Bolton if needed.

[7/22/19 4:28:48 PM Kurt Volker: But I can tell Bolton and you can tell Mick that
Rudy agrees on a call if that helps.

[7/22/ 19 4:30:10 PM] Gordon Sondland: I talked to Tim Morrison Fiona’s
replacement. He is pushing but feel free as well.

Volker Advises Yermak Ahead of Trump—Zelenskv Call: On the morning of July 25,
2019—ahead of the planned call between President Trump and President Zelensky—
Ambassador Volker advised Andrey Yennak:

[7/25/19, 8:36:45 AM] Kurt Volker: Good lunch ~ thanks. Heard from White
Houseiassuming President Z convinces trump he will investigate / “get to the
bottom of what happened” in 2016, we will nail down date for visit to
Washington. Good luck! See you tomorrow
- kuit

Yermak’s Informal Readout of the Trump—Zeienskv Call: Following President
Trump’s July 25 call, Ambassador Volker received the following readout from Ukrainian
Presidential Adviser Yermak and confirmed his intent to meet Giuliani in Madrid:

[7/25/19, 10:15:06 AM] Andrey Yerrnak: Phone call went well. President Trump
proposed to choose any convenient dates. President Zelenskiy chose 20,21,22
September for the White House Visit. Thank you again for your help! Please
remind Mr. Mayor to share the Madrid’s dates

[7/25/ 19, 10:16:42 AM] Kurt Volker: Great —thanks and will do!

State Department Officials Discuss a White House Visit and Ukraine Statement: On
August 9, 2019, Ambassador Volker had the following exchange with Ambassador
Sondland about arranging a White House meeting after the Ukrainian President makes a

public statement:

[8/9/19, 5: 35:53 PM] Gordon Sondland: Morrison ready to get dates as soon as
Yermak confirms.

[8/9/ 19, 5: 46:21 PM] Kurt Volker: Excellent” How did you sway him? 2)

[8/9/ 19, 5: 47:34 PM] Gordon Sondland: Not sure i did. I think potus really wants
the deliverable

[8/9/19, 5: 48:00 PM] Kurt Volker: But does he know that?
[8/9/19, 5: 48:09 PM] Gordon Sondland: Yep
[8/9/ 19, 5: 48:37 PM] Gordon Sondland: Clearly lots of convos going on

[8/9/ 19, 5:48:38 PM] Kurt Volker: Ok—then that’s good it’s coming from two
separate sources

[8/9/ 19, 5: 51:18 PM] Gordon Sondland: To avoid misundestandings, might be
helpful to ask Andrey for a draft statememt (embargoed) so that we can see
exactly what they propose to cover. Even though Ze does a live presser they can
still summarize in a brief statement. Thoughts?

[8/9/ 19, 5: 51:42 PM] Kurt Volker: Agree!

State Department Officials Seek Giuliani’s Guidance on Ukraine Statement: On
August 9, 2019, after Mr. Giuliani met with President Zelensky’s aide Andrey Yerrnak,
Ambassador Volker asked to speak with Mr. Giuliani about the Ukranian statement:

[8/9/ 19, 11:27 AM] Kurt Volker: Hi Mr Mayor! Had a good chat with Yermak
last night. He was pleased with your phone call. Mentioned Z making a statement.
Can we all get on the phone to make sure I advise Z correctly as to what he should
be saying? Want to make sure we get this done right. Thanks!


Gordon Sondland: Good idea Kurt. I am on Pacific time.
Rudy Giuliani: Yes can you call now going to Fundraiser at 12:30

Ukrainian Aide Seeks White House Date First: On August 10, 2019, President
Zelensky’s aide, Andrey Yermak, pressed Ambassador Volker for a date for the White
House Visit before committing to a statement announcing an investigation explicitly
referencing the 2016 election and Burisma:

[8/ 10/ 19, 4:56: 15 PM] Andrey Yermak: Hi Kurt. Please let me know when you
can talk. I think it’s possible to make this declaration and mention all these things.
Which we discussed yesterday. But it will be logic to do after we receive a
confirmation of date. We inform about date of visit and about our expectations
and our giarantees for future Visit. Let discuss it

[8/10/19, 5:01 :32 PM] Kurt Volker: 0k! It’s late for you—why don’t we talk in
my morning, your afternoon tomorrow? Say 10am/5pm?

[8/1 0/ 19, 5:02:18 PM] Kurt Volker: I agree with your approach. Let’s iron out
statement and use that to get date and then PreZ can go forward with it?


[8/10/19, 5:26:17 PM] Andrey Yennak: Ok

[8/10/19, 5:38:43 PM] Kurt Volker: Great. Gordon is available to join as well
[8/10/19, 5:41 :45 PM] Andrey Yermak: Excellent

[8/10/ 19, 5:42: 10 PM] Andrey Yermak: Once we have a date, will call for a press
briefing, announcing upcoming visit and outlining vision for the reboot of US-
UKRAINE relationship, including among other things Burisma and election
meddling in investigations


[8/10/19, 5:42:30 PM] Kurt Volker: Sounds great!

Discussion of Ukrainian Statement to Include References to 2016 Election and
Burisma: Following the August 9, 2019, outreach to Rudy Giuliani, Ambassador Volker
and Ambassador Sondland on August 13, 2019, had following exchange regarding the
proposed Ukrainian statement:

[8/ 13/ 1 9, 10:26:44 AM] Kurt Volker: Special attention should be paid to the
problem of interference in the political processes of the United States especially
with the alleged involvement of some Ukrainian politicians. I want to declare that
this is unacceptable. We intend to initiate and complete a transparent and
unbiased investigation of all available facts and episodes, including those
involving Burisma and the 2016 U.S. elections, which in turn will prevent the
recurrence of this problem in the future.

[8/ 13/ 19, 10:27:20 AM] Gordon Sondland: Perfect. Lets send to Andrey after our
call

Confirming Desire to Reference 2016 Election and Burisma: On August 17, 2019,
Ambassadors Volker and Sondland had the following exchange in which they discussed
their message to Ukraine:

[8/ 17/ 19, 3:06:19 PM] Gordon Sondland: Do we still want Ze to give us an
unequivocal draft with 2016 and Boresrna?

[8/17/19, 4:34:21 PM] Kurt Volker: That’s the clear message so far

[8/ 1 7/ 19, 4:34:39 PM] Kurt Volker: I’m hoping we can put something out there
that causes him to respond with that

[8/17/19, 4:41 :09 PM] Gordon Sondland: Unless you think otherwise I will return
Andreys call tomorrow and suggest they send us a clean draft.

Ukrainian Official Shares Press Report of U.S. Withholdimw Military Assistance:
On August 28, President Zelensky’s aide, Andrey Yermak, texted Ambassador Volker a
news story entitled, “Trump Holds Up Ukraine Military Aid Meant to Confront Russia”:

[8/29/ 19, 2:28:19 AM] Andrey Yermak: Need to talk with you

{8/29/19, 3:06:14 AM] Andrey Yennak:
https://www.politico.com/st01y/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-mi1itary-aid-russia

1689531

[8/29/19, 6:55:04 AM] Kurt Volker: Hi Andrey — absolutely. When is good for
you?

President Trump Cancels Trip to Meet President Zelenskv: On August 30,
Ambassador Taylor informed Ambassador Volker that President Trump had canceled his
planned Visit to Warsaw, Poland, where he was to meet with President Zelensky.
Ambassadors Volker and Sondland discussed an alternative plan for Vice President
Pence to meet with President Zelensky on September 1:

[8/30/19, 12:14:57 AM] Bill Taylor: Trip canceled

[8/3 0/19, 12:16:02 AM] Kurt Volker: Hope VPOTUS keeps the bilat 4 and tees
up WH visit. ..

[8/30/19, 12:16:18 AM] Kurt Volker: And hope Gordon and Perry still going...

[8/30/19, 5:31:14 AM] Gordon Sondland: I am going. Pompeo is speaking to
Potus today to see if he can go.

On September 1, Ambassador Taylor sought clarification of the requirements for a White
House visit:


[9/ 1/ 19, 12:08:57 PM] Bill Taylor: Are we now saying that security assistance
and WH meeting are conditioned on investigations?


[9/1/19, 12:42:29 PM] Gordon Sondland: Call me

State Department Officials on Security Assistance and the Ukraine “Interview”: On
September 8, Ambassador Taylor, Ambassador Sondland, and Ambassador Volker had

the following exchange:

[9/8/19, 11:20:32 AM] Gordon Sondland: Guys multiple convos with Ze, Potus,
Lets talk

[9/8/19, 1 1:21:41 AM] Bill Taylor: Now is fine with me

[9/8/19, 1 1:26:13 AM] Kurt Volker: Try again—could not hear

[9/8/ 19, 11:40:1 1 AM] Bill Taylor: Gordon and I just spoke. I can brief you if you
and Gordon don’t connect

[9/8/ 19, 12:37:28 PM] Bill Taylor: The nightmare is they give the interview and
don’t get the security assistance. The Russians love it. (And I quit.)


0 State Degartment Officials on Withholding Securig Assistance: On September 9,
2019, Ambassador Taylor and Ambassador Sondland had the following exchange

regarding the withholding of military assistance to Ukraine:

[9/9/ 19, 12:31:06 AM] Bill Taylor: The message to the Ukrainians (and Russians)
we send with the decision on security assistance is key. With the hold, we have
already shaken their faith in us. Thus my nightmare scenario.


[9/9/19, 12:34:44 AM] Bill Taylor: Counting on you to be right about this
interview, Gordon.

[9/9/ 19, 12:37:16 AM] Gordon Sondland: Bill, [never said I was “right”. I said
we are where we are and believe we have identified the best pathway forward.
Lets hope it works.

[9/9/19, 12:47: 11 AM] Bill Taylor: As I said on the phone, I think it’s crazy to
withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign:

[9/9/ 19, 5:19:35 AM] Gordon Sondland: Bill, Ibelieve you are incorrect about
President Trump’s intentions. The President has been crystal clear no quid pro
quo’s of any kind. The President is trying to evaluate whether Ukraine is truly
going to adopt the transparency and reforms that President Zelensky promised
during his campaign I suggest we stop the back and forth by text If you still have
concerns I recommend you give Lisa Kenna or S a call to discuss them directly.
Thanks.

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 3, 2019, 10:14 PM

11. Nice work Roland99. Thank you!

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 3, 2019, 10:14 PM

13. that text is making my browser go nucking futz

i'm trying to copy the exchange of 7/21/19 in which Sondlund is worried about the alternative... what's the alternative?

tried copying to paste here and attempts set my browser into overload again and again

anyway, WHAT ALTERNATIVE WORRIES HIM?

✌🏼

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Response to dweller (Reply #13)

Thu Oct 3, 2019, 11:15 PM

25. That's a damned good question -- unless it's just threat the orange fat ass will go ballistic if

Zelensky doesn't (actually "didn't" now) agree with the pretext. Obviously from the texts, Sondland was okay with MF45's whole deal as it was -- the traitorous bastard. ... Perhaps it's legit, i.e., not giving Ukraine security aid is a worse alternative. If that's the case, this righteous bastard Sondland thinks it's okay to sell our Democracy to the highest bidder in order to achieve ideological goals (but that's nothing new for today's GOP).

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Response to dweller (Reply #13)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 01:15 AM

34. I took it to mean

That the "alternative" scenario was that no relationship between Zelensky and Trump was forged.

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Response to dweller (Reply #13)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 09:02 AM

54. The alternative is:

in my opinion, the turnover of Ukraine to the Russians.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #54)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 06:52 PM

60. But isn't the uber frame that Trump et al stand on Putin's side,ag Zelensky & democracy in Ukraine?

Even without Zelensky's cooperation smearing Biden, Trump's "foreign policy" is based upon thwarting democracy in Ukraine,returning it to Russian puppet govt & and, most immediately transparent, getting Russia those sanctions lifted for their aggression in Ukraine. In that Trump Zelensky hostage video/ press conference, Trump was even strong arming Zelensky to strike an agreement with Putin,
an agreement that surely would force Ukraine to cave and provide validation to Putin, thereby removing the reason the sanctions were placed upon Putin.

Trump et al are essentially pulling the same stunt supporting China (by "crickets" over Hong Kong's fight for democracy. Isn't that Trump's dangle to China if they'll smear Biden & the Democrats?

This is a Repug Party and Presidency that has proven over and over that they not only do not give a shit about democracy either here or around the world; they actually see democracy as the enemy. IMHO.

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Response to stuffmatters (Reply #60)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 07:56 PM

61. Republicans are all traitors. Every single one at this point.

If they have a speck of democratic backbone they would stand up, speak out, and quit the party.

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 3, 2019, 10:16 PM

14. Thank you.

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 3, 2019, 10:26 PM

20. Thanks!

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 3, 2019, 11:26 PM

27. Who is Bill Taylor?

Looks like he could be key to sorting these exchanges out.

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Response to Fiendish Thingy (Reply #27)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 12:31 AM

31. Bill Taylor sounds like the good guy

Gordon Sondland, on the other hand, sounds like the guy who knows these texts might get out.

That last exchange is really damning.

If I were Schiff, et al., I'd be asking NSA for these guys' phone calls. We know from Ed Snowden they're recorded.

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Response to ArcticFox (Reply #31)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 07:45 AM

44. Sondland was a BIG Trump campaign contributor.

He was rewarded by Trump with an ambassadorship.

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Response to PA Democrat (Reply #44)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 08:57 AM

53. Good info. Thank you PA Democrat

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #1)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 05:03 AM

40. Freaking wow!

This is a shakedown on steroids

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #1)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 02:47 PM

57. wow thanks

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Thu Oct 3, 2019, 09:50 PM

2. BINGO!!!!

Put it out there - let them choke on their own evilness!

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Thu Oct 3, 2019, 09:55 PM

3. Why release this?

FOX is simply going to read the last text and go “this proves no Quid Pro Quo!”

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 3, 2019, 09:56 PM

4. My take is Sondland was lying his ass off

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 3, 2019, 09:59 PM

5. That's my take too

But you just handed Trump a perfect sound byte.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 3, 2019, 10:03 PM

7. They've taken certain snippets many times and tried to use it as proof of nothing

But the memorandum proves it was there. Sondland was trying to provide cover. Thinly.

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 3, 2019, 10:13 PM

10. Exactly. In the same way drug dealers do when they do business by text.

 

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 3, 2019, 10:20 PM

19. To think this SOB is a Ambassador

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 3, 2019, 10:12 PM

8. It is clear it meant Trump wanted this done so that Trump's hands were clean.

Push Ukraine as far as you can. Ukraine needs the money and wants the meeting with Trump. Use leverage to get the a statement Trump wants.

Ukraine drafted an anti-corruption statement that was too vague, the WH "suggested" Ukraine draft another mentioning Biden's company specifically. Ukraine refused.

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Response to Freethinker65 (Reply #8)

Thu Oct 3, 2019, 10:14 PM

12. Oh I get that

I’m just saying that last part about no quid pro quo will be playing on a loop on FOX News tomorrow.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #12)

Thu Oct 3, 2019, 10:20 PM

18. Yeah. Trump is crystal clear he wants no trace of this ever coming back to haunt him.....

Except it has, and he is squirming for his life.

The GOP should just cut him loose. They got their tax cuts and conservative judges along with the Supreme Court.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #12)

Thu Oct 3, 2019, 10:38 PM

22. Schiff is fair.

 

He didn’t just release what made him look good. An overwhelming amount of the content seems to be more bad news for the administration. Holding things back that will become public soon is a bad strategy. They then get a news cycle about how corrupt we are. Fox News is going to break a big story no matter what. It won’t really be big but their listeners follow orders/talking points.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #12)

Thu Oct 3, 2019, 11:37 PM

29. There is no need for QUID PRO QUO!!!!

 

NONE!

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Response to SlogginThroughIt (Reply #29)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 06:00 AM

41. THIS !!

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #3)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 12:35 AM

32. That last text is the most incriminating

"Pick up the phone, don't put this in writing" is what you say when you know the discussion is about to get you in trouble.

However, I see your point: Fox viewers cannot be expected to understand what I've just said.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #3)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 01:20 AM

35. Yeah, the one text with multiple full sentences

Written clearly without any code. Yeah, not suspicious at all...

Of course it will be quoted as exonerating. That was why it was written

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Thu Oct 3, 2019, 10:03 PM

6. I believe Taylor is the Whistle Blower

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Response to MaryMagdaline (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 3, 2019, 10:17 PM

15. Is Taylor CIA?

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Response to Nevermypresident (Reply #15)

Thu Oct 3, 2019, 10:19 PM

16. Most foreign service people are - whether we admit it or not

If he is not the WB I think he may have supported the WB

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Response to MaryMagdaline (Reply #16)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 09:09 AM

55. Yes, he would know who the whistleblower is.

I would agree.

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Response to MaryMagdaline (Reply #6)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 08:00 AM

46. I was just getting ready to post that, MaryM !

Pages 8 and 9 were particularly interesting.

Taylor does look like he could be the "Whistleblower".

Now, I'm thinking, "'should i delete this response??'"

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Response to kentuck (Reply #46)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 08:40 AM

51. I thought about deleting but then if you and I thought he could be WB

surely others have thought the same thing.

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Response to MaryMagdaline (Reply #51)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 08:54 AM

52. But we don't know for sure.

It could be someone else?

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Thu Oct 3, 2019, 10:13 PM

9. It appears to me that the only person in these conversations/texts that

is alarmed is Bill Taylor, yet... he's not the whistleblower, he didn't call the FBI... Shame on all and I can only hope that their reputations, careers, livelihoods, etc. are destroyed.

After the Mueller investigation, they do THIS? What hubris and arrogance. Suffering no consequences from the Mueller investigation, they really thought they would get by with it. Well, at least we have one person that was willing to put our country over their own self-interests- the whistleblower.

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Response to Nevermypresident (Reply #9)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 12:41 AM

33. I read it a little differently

Last edited Fri Oct 4, 2019, 01:38 AM - Edit history (1)

These guys all seem to be trying to get the military aid released to Ukraine. The White House keeps moving the goalposts. The ambassadors keep trying to placate the WH, hoping to get the aid to the Ukraine. They were manipulated into doing the wrong thing, incrementally, probably not realizing it until the very end.

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Response to ArcticFox (Reply #33)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 01:22 AM

36. That's my take too nt

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Response to intrepidity (Reply #36)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 01:37 AM

37. Maybe not all if them were led astray (learning more)

Apparently, one was doing the leading: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212543962

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Response to ArcticFox (Reply #37)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 08:05 AM

47. good info!

Thanks!

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Response to Nevermypresident (Reply #9)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 05:51 PM

59. this is why if Dems don't impeach, as long as Dumpster is in office we will not have fair elections.

Alarming and frightening. 9-alarm call here - hair on fire time!

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Thu Oct 3, 2019, 10:19 PM

17. good to see FACTS coming out

Expecting even more people to climb out from under the mobsters' thumbs and head for the light.

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #17)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 08:39 AM

50. +1

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Thu Oct 3, 2019, 10:28 PM

21. Sondland's a real snake-in-the-grass. Careful not to answer

Taylor via text: "Call me." He also makes the last statement to cover all their asses.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Reply #21)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 02:07 AM

39. Quid pro call me




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Response to Tactical Peek (Reply #39)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 01:27 PM

56. Quid pro quo isn't even needed. This just solidifies the request for foreign interference

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Reply #21)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 07:49 AM

45. Sondland also maid a $1million donation to trump's Inauguration

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Response to Nevermypresident (Reply #45)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 08:06 AM

48. Yep.

He was very malleable.

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Response to Nevermypresident (Reply #45)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 08:37 AM

49. Holy crap!

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Thu Oct 3, 2019, 10:54 PM

23. "Trove" is right.

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Thu Oct 3, 2019, 11:01 PM

24. Kick

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Thu Oct 3, 2019, 11:24 PM

26. wow...

...

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Thu Oct 3, 2019, 11:32 PM

28. See text on 9/9: Who is Lisa Kenna or "S"?!!

[9/9/19, 12:47: 11 AM] Bill Taylor: As I said on the phone, I think it’s crazy to
withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign

[9/9/ 19, 5:19:35 AM] Gordon Sondland: Bill, Ibelieve you are incorrect about
President Trump’s intentions. The President has been crystal clear no quid pro
quo’s of any kind. The President is trying to evaluate whether Ukraine is truly
going to adopt the transparency and reforms that President Zelensky promised
during his campaign I suggest we stop the back and forth by text If you still have
concerns I recommend you give Lisa Kenna or S a call to discuss them directly.

Thanks.

I don't know who S is (anyone have an idea?)

Who is Lisa Kenna - Lisa Kenna (born 1965) is the current Executive Secretary of the United States Department of State

So is she supposed to allay Ambassador Taylor's concern about the quid pro quo?!!!

Of course, this goes all the way to the top. Pompeo is just as dirty as the rest.

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Response to Nevermypresident (Reply #28)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 01:52 AM

38. "S" Pompeo (SoS) nt

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Response to intrepidity (Reply #38)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 07:34 AM

42. or Deputy Secretary of State, John Sullivan?

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Thu Oct 3, 2019, 11:45 PM

30. Kick. Rec. BOOKMARK!

Thank you.

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 07:39 AM

43. K & R

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 05:46 PM

58. Thanks for posting. Holy crap.

They all worked it.Burn in hell assholes..

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