I want to say I got it wrong

[sharedvalues]

Last week I was saying that Pelosi had taken a huge risk, waiting for the president to commit another major crime before impeaching.

But after today I take that back. The sheer rate and volume of crimes being committed by this president and administration is just flabbergasting.

So many Republican criminals. So many Republican crimes. Nancy was right and I was wrong. This moment was just inevitable and she was right to wait for an opportune moment.

[dawg day]

1. Now it sounds like he fired the very competent ambassador to Ukraine-

because Giuliani said she wasn't sufficiently loyal and helpful. (Or rather, she was TOO LOYAL... to the United States.)
And even today, he took advantage of the opportunity to slam her== he'd "heard very bad things about her."

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/03/politics/wsj-trump-yovanovitch-recall/index.html

[Moostache]

4. Our press is less than useless...

They will keep running Trump's Biden allegations over and over and over (JUST LIKE 'No Collusion', 'Total vindication')...and yet, when the orange demented yam rambles on with non-specific OBVIOUS lies ("I'm hearing...", "Many, many people are saying...", "very bad", "terrible", "nasty", etc.) they go goddamn MUTE...

When he says "heard very bad things...", they should ALL DEMAND that he clarify, chapter and verse, with attestations exact WHO said WHAT and WHEN...and NO OTHER QUESTIONS or press events AT ALL should occur until he answers.

No more BS.
No more Bullying.
No more lying.

FUCK HIM and demand answers until he gets so mad he DOES die of a heart attack on camera...

[Garrett78]

7. Jeff Mason got a lot of attention yesterday because, gasp, he actually pressed for an answer.

The fact that that moment got so much attention speaks to how rare it is, even though what Mason did should be standard operating procedure. It's like Nicole Wallace or CNN doing real-time fact-checking. It seems amazing, yet it should have been the norm all along.

Many factors contributed to what happened in 2016, including Russia and Comey and race-based voter suppression. But the mainstream press also deserves a lot of blame, and that doesn't get talked about nearly enough. I'll never forgive the likes of Andrea Emails Mitchell.

Trump and other Republicans constantly get away with lies and vague, baseless remarks such as "I heard very bad things about her."

Mind you, Dems should do a much better job of messaging, of establishing the dominant narrative. But the media in the US is, on the whole, woefully inept.

[czarjak]

14. It's not Jeff Mason's fault he couldn't get an answer..

And Cackling Nicolle can go fuck herself until she rebukes her Bush years.

[Garrett78]

16. I think you misinterpreted my post.

[czarjak]

25. Likewise...

It wasn't many factors, it was rigged. Period.

[czarjak]

29. My apologies!

[dawg day]

11. Yes! " What do you mean by bad?

" Give us an example." They must push him on these insults.

[mucifer]

26. Yup on Friday AP radio new ONLY quoted trump. It was truly creepy

they do a top of the hour news for a few minutes. The day before they did explain impeachment better. But, Friday it was all pro trump.

[Moostache]

2. These thieves make Nixon look like a piker...

I cannot believe my eyes daily - nay, HOURLY, of late.
Tragedy has befallen our nation.

[NCLefty]

3. This is so far beyond what Nixon did now.

[Lock him up.]

12. There are some loopholes in the Constitution...

There should be laws voted mandating all nominees to disclose their tax returns 3 months before elections, for example (just one, although there should be many more).

[tirebiter]

5. Volder's a plant

He is a Trump supporter

[Laura PourMeADrink]

24. Volker?

[Cha]

6. Thank you for saying it.. I notice

some are doubling down.

It was the perfect time.

[lunatica]

8. She did say he would self impeach.

She was so right!

[betsuni]

9. "Nancy was right and I was wrong"

Good for you for saying this!

[Roy Rolling]

10. She's a Master

First-time elected politician Trump meet Nancy Pelosi, who has forgotten more about politics than Trump and his cabal will ever know.

She correctly recognized Trump is incorrigible, and he will up the ante with every offense he commits.

How she acts on that superior perception is always fresh and impactful. She isn’t playing for second-place, she’s playing to win.

And the only way for Trump to win is to not play the game at all.

[Lock him up.]

13. Drumph is a loser; always been a loser...

... in the end.

He wants to pretend he isn't.

[mcar]

15. Nicely said

Nancy said he'd impeach himself. She was so right.

[wryter2000]

17. Happy to rec this

Thank you.

[Aussie105]

18. But what is the problem?

Trump has always behaved like that.
'Loyal to me? Yep, you can stray.
'Loyalty lies elsewhere?' Nope, you go away. And expect some nastiness on Twitter from me!

He brazenly avoided any exterior factors when he was elected that might have interfered with his business model, like how past presidents behaved, emolument details, the Constitution (just to mention a couple), and he was free to do business as usual.
What Trump doesn't know, he doesn't need to take any notice of. That's his thinking. It's the reason why he kept advisors at arm's length, and often ignored them totally.

Now I'm not saying Trump started off in business this way, but over the years his approach morphed into that of a Mafia boss.

Really sad though, and underlines his desperation, to see him ring leaders of foreign countries and basically saying 'You like me don't you? If you want to do business with the US, prove you are on my side by giving me dirt on those who want to hurt me.'

Nancy saw it right. It was only a matter of time.

[OnDoutside]

19. To be fair, the HUGE difference is EVIDENCE, which has been lacking due to Trump blocking

documents and witnesses. Now he has given us what is needed, on the Ukraine issue, Pelosi can impeach. People were screaming for months to launch an inquiry when Dems were in court trying to free evidence and witnesses from Trump's clutches.

[sharedvalues]

20. I was screaming for an aggressive inquiry

I still think we should have had more aggressive inquiries and used inherent contempt.
But that’s starting to happen now and I am happy.

[OnDoutside]

22. We all would like that but they were being blocked every step of the way in terms of documentation

and witnesses, leaving Pelosi with the fear that you'd create the Impeachment Inquiry, and then you'd be bogged down in the courts for months (which turned out to be the case), trying to get his tax returns and compelling Trump Admin staff to appear. It could have gone the way of the Mueller Report, in being strangled. The difference now, and why he WILL be impeached, is because they have clear evidence of him demanding Ukraine investigate Biden. It's why Pelosi wants to impeach on this narrow case, and not get bogged down in widening it. Once they win some of the cases currently working their way through the courts, then they can add those at that stage.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

21. K&R

[Laura PourMeADrink]

23. Wow. Are you serious? You were 100% right. But

many of us believe he committed impeachable acts already, long before Ukraine. We will never know if he had been challenged long ago if it might have slowed his reign of terror. That said, everyone needs to move fast and stand up unequivocally.

[moonscape]

28. Yes. 45 paused in the beginning when told he

couldn't do something. But as he put his criminal toes in the water and suffered no consequences he was emboldened. No, I don't know what consequences we had the power to inflict, but wish we could have grabbed the narrative. The public statements about not impeaching always bothered me.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

30. And I think now we are waiting for some Republicans

To come on board? Why we won't have a vote to simply declare that the House majority wants to have an inquiry? There is something to me to standing up for what is right. If the strategy is to wait until we find out worse things trump has done..well how stupid will they look to vote no, in retrospect?

[moonscape]

32. "... standing up for what is right" says it all.

My frustration has been watching what seemed like tortured political calculation when I'm not convinced any political genius could diagram this cluster and get it except by nearly random chance. Uncharted territory. Unprecedented. All those words we live with daily.

We have leaders on both sides not acting until they feel assured of an outcome, though McConnell's calculations are sinister and ours aren't. But I always thought the process would bring people along if - and because - we have right on our side. And if in the end it didn't, we'd still be doing what is right. And doing what's right doesn't seem like such a massive gamble to me.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

33. Yes. You made me think...how is doing what we have

Been doing working so far? Why not try something different? How could we be worse off? I have heard quite often the right saying Democrats hate trump. And that is why they are trying to nail him. What substantiates this is that he doesn't get punished or held accountable. IOW, the thought that if people who hate him can't stop him then he must not have done anything that bad.

[Perseus]

27. I don't think you got it wrong, there was plenty already to impeach the bastard, but yes

this one is clear cut. Now, think about this, what if the idiot had not offered something like the Ukraine thing? Was Pelosi supposed to continue waiting for something like it to happen? What if it never happened?

There was mass frustration that Democrats already had multiple evidence of crimes and misdemeanors from the creature and Pelosi was waiting for a magic thing to happen, good for her that it did happen and I hope that more whistleblowers come forward as it seems they are to put the whole thing to rest, but as I said, there was plenty of evidence and Pelosi did not seem to be moving in the right direction.

Because of all that, I don't think you were wrong. I just hope Democrats don't limit themselves to this one Ukraine thing, they need to come forward with everything they've got, and they have a lot. No question that this is the most corrupt POTUS in the history of this country, and the most corrupt administration, it almost makes the Nixon administration seem like a convent.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

31. Very well articulated Perseus! Think I'd concentrate

on finding witnesses to the call itself...because no way no how will we ever get the real phone transcript. Dipshit will take it to the SC where he placed her s buds.