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JonLP24

(29,929 posts)
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 05:30 PM Oct 2019

JOURNALIST SAYS CUSTOMS OFFICER HELD HIS PASSPORT UNTIL HE ANSWERED 'YES' TO 'YOU WRITE PROPAGANDA,

U.S. Customs and Border Protection official reportedly held a journalist's passport until he answered "yes" to "you write propaganda," and it's just the latest of multiple such incidents by federal officials during the Trump administration.

Defense One news editor Ben Watson reported on his media outlet's site Friday that he was arriving at Washington, D.C. through Dulles International Airport the prior afternoon, coming back from an assignment in Denmark, when a CBP officer screening passports turned the questioning in an unusual direction.

"What do you do?" the officer asked Watson, holding his passport.

When Watson replied, "journalism," the officer said, "So you write propaganda, right?" Watson responded, "No," and the conversation continued as follows, according to his recounting:



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CBP officer: "You're a journalist?"

Watson: "Yes."

CBP officer: "You write propaganda, right?"

Watson: "No. I am in journalism. Covering national security. And homeland security. And with many of the same skills I used in the U.S. Army as a public affairs officer. Some would argue that's propaganda."

CBP officer: "You're a journalist?"

Watson: "Yes."

CBP officer: "You write propaganda, right?"

Watson waited five seconds. Then: "For the purposes of expediting this conversation, yes."

CBP officer, a fourth time: "You write propaganda, right?"

Watson, again: "For the purposes of expediting this conversation, yes."

CBP officer: "Here you go."

https://www.newsweek.com/journalist-passort-held-cbp-write-propaganda-1463317?utm_campaign=NewsweekTwitter&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter&__twitter_impression=true

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JOURNALIST SAYS CUSTOMS OFFICER HELD HIS PASSPORT UNTIL HE ANSWERED 'YES' TO 'YOU WRITE PROPAGANDA, (Original Post) JonLP24 Oct 2019 OP
Yet another typical asshole with too much power! n/t RKP5637 Oct 2019 #1
I might add, Hav Oct 2019 #3
He absolutely should lose his job. He's supposed to be screening for terrorists, DemocracyMouse Oct 2019 #14
So glad to see this is going to get eyes on it via Newsweek (as opposed to somebody's blog) Leghorn21 Oct 2019 #2
K&R!!! n/t RKP5637 Oct 2019 #5
Just an FYI to everyone BannonsLiver Oct 2019 #4
Apparently they can fuck with you if they want to. klook Oct 2019 #6
No they can't, at least they can't and get away with it grantcart Oct 2019 #9
Ok, thanks. Good info. (nt) klook Oct 2019 #17
If I had my way LiberalFighter Oct 2019 #7
He'd just shoot you Ahpook Oct 2019 #16
Just came back into the country on Tuesday and it was way harder than in then in the past kimbutgar Oct 2019 #8
Could be a result of enforced overtime grantcart Oct 2019 #10
They shouldn't be forced into overtime, but it isn't enough to explain the fascism DemocracyMouse Oct 2019 #15
This could possibility be the reason kimbutgar Oct 2019 #18
Would they ask the same question to a Fox 'journalist'? keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #11
Back in the U.S.S.R. bucolic_frolic Oct 2019 #12
I would call bdamomma Oct 2019 #13
Ok. I'm suspicious. I travel oversees yearly. GulfCoast66 Oct 2019 #19
Not funny, Waffen SS agent. I hope you lose your job and your pension is terminated. ffr Oct 2019 #20

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
14. He absolutely should lose his job. He's supposed to be screening for terrorists,
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 08:32 PM
Oct 2019

not acting like one.

Leghorn21

(14,090 posts)
2. So glad to see this is going to get eyes on it via Newsweek (as opposed to somebody's blog)
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 05:40 PM
Oct 2019
these people need exposing in the worst way

Thanks for posting, Jon

BannonsLiver

(20,589 posts)
4. Just an FYI to everyone
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 05:42 PM
Oct 2019

If you are a US citizen with a valid passport they cannot deny you re entry to the country unless you are intoxicated, in which case you will be detained. I’ve seen it happen more than once. This isn’t a license to be disrespectful but legally there is more bark than bite to their authority as far as US citizens are concerned. They can harass but ultimately they’re going to have to let you back in.

I’ve had mostly good encounters with them but had to get salty with one in Atlanta for barking at m mom because she had the nerve to open her passport and hand it to him. As we were walking away I made sure to remind him — firmly — who he works for. If looks could kill he would be six feet under. They do not intimidate me at all.

klook

(13,600 posts)
6. Apparently they can fuck with you if they want to.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 05:56 PM
Oct 2019

I have not had an experience like this journalist describes, but I keep an ACLU card in my wallet and would not hesitate to call them if these goons tried to give me shit.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
9. No they can't, at least they can't and get away with it
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 08:11 PM
Oct 2019

He should have asked for a supervisor and filed a charge of illegal detention. He should also follow up with a charge to Homeland Security Internal Affairs. They love to bring charges on this kind of shir

LiberalFighter

(53,544 posts)
7. If I had my way
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 05:57 PM
Oct 2019

And met him away from work. I would ask him if he was a dumb fuck. If he said no, slap him. Ask him the same question and slap him again if he said no. Then when he finally did say yes slap him again.

Geesh!

There really needs to be an immediate correction to the situation.

Ahpook

(2,777 posts)
16. He'd just shoot you
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 08:49 PM
Oct 2019

Think of the type of person that does shit like this in the first place.

They need to have medical exams!

kimbutgar

(27,248 posts)
8. Just came back into the country on Tuesday and it was way harder than in then in the past
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 06:18 PM
Oct 2019

Since 2015 I have re entered the country every year from Europe and this year was the most difficult. The CBP guy was kind of brusque and asked me three times how much luggage I had and where I had been. I visited several countries on a cruise and was tired since getting up at 5:30 am on the cruise ship and then flew 8 hours and then transfer for a 5 hour flight home. I felt like a zombie and this border guy was a jerk.

My seat mate who was an Italian citizen and had lived in the states for a few years previously told me it is getting harder to get into the country.he has also seen the change towards people by the CBP agents.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
10. Could be a result of enforced overtime
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 08:16 PM
Oct 2019

Workload on Officers has increased significantly and in some ports Customs Officers are mandated to work 16 hours a day. 2-4 days a week. In 2017 4 different Customs Officers had heart attacks at San Ysidro.

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
15. They shouldn't be forced into overtime, but it isn't enough to explain the fascism
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 08:43 PM
Oct 2019

Trump has encouraged it 100%.

There is also the post-9/11 syndrome.

We all predicted the US would tilt fascist after 9/11. It's going to take a concerted effort, a culture change, beginning with Warren, Booker, Harris, Buttigieg, O'Rourke, Sanders or Biden.

The Germans had to do an entire educational and cultural reprogramming. Germany's experts should come in and give us lil' ol' fireside chat on how to reintroduce democracy here.

kimbutgar

(27,248 posts)
18. This could possibility be the reason
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 12:25 AM
Oct 2019

but who will want to be a tourist here with money.

Lack of tourism dollars will hurt a lot of industries and GDP of the US.

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
11. Would they ask the same question to a Fox 'journalist'?
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 08:20 PM
Oct 2019

Would they ask the same question to a Fox 'journalist'?

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
19. Ok. I'm suspicious. I travel oversees yearly.
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 12:54 AM
Oct 2019

I have Global Entry as I’m guessing all reporters who travel overseas have.

Re-entering is a no brainer. Finger print or facial scan, fill out the questions, none of which as about your profession and get your slip. Show it to a customs guy after 3 questions and thru you go. One about tobacco products.

Last year coming back from Europe I had 30 or so Cuban cigars. I declared I had tobacco products. The guy told me cuban cigars were not allowed. I politely told him they were and please talk to a supervisor. He did, apologized to me, and told me that he was brought to work the line after 5 years in an office because they were so short staffed and did not know the rules had changed. Then I went right thru.

Now, I’m not a confrontational guy by nature. But if a Boarder Control Officer did this to me, I would as for a superior officer immediately. And if I was a reporter and asked these I would state ‘I write articles about things like CBP office harassment of America citizens’.

So maybe it happened this way. But even this mid-management guy would not put up with it. I would immediately ask for a supervisor. I’m a fucking American Citizen. With a valid passport they cannot deny me re-entry into the country.

I’ve seen too many stories like this lately that get debunked.

I mean really, if you were an obscure reporter would you not cherish the opportunity to escalate this? Can you see any reporter you have ever heard of capitulating like this?





ffr

(23,398 posts)
20. Not funny, Waffen SS agent. I hope you lose your job and your pension is terminated.
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 12:58 AM
Oct 2019

Sick!

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