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Demovictory9

(32,449 posts)
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 08:57 AM Oct 2019

TRUMP 'FAWNING' TO PUTIN AND OTHER AUTHORITARIANS IN 'EMBARRASSING' PHONE CALLS, WHITE HOUSE AIDES S

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-fawning-vladimir-putin-authoritarians-embarrassing-phone-calls-1463352

TRUMP 'FAWNING' TO PUTIN AND OTHER AUTHORITARIANS IN 'EMBARRASSING' PHONE CALLS, WHITE HOUSE AIDES SAY—REPORT

As the spotlight on President Donald Trump's interactions with foreign leaders intensifies, former and current White House officials have described Trump's interactions with strongman leaders as fawning, deferential and embarrassing, with many of those in the administration "horrified" at his conduct.

The Washington Post spoke with 12 current and former White House officials who said that members of the administration were shocked at the president's behavior during conversations with authoritarians like Russian President Vladimir Putin and members of the Saudi royal family.


"There was a constant undercurrent in the Trump administration of [senior staff] who were genuinely horrified by the things they saw that were happening on these calls," one former White House official—who spoke on the condition of anonymity—told the Post.

"Phone calls that were embarrassing, huge mistakes he made, months and months of work that were upended by one impulsive tweet," the official added.



Aides were particularly concerned about Trump's calls with Putin. The first call came less than two weeks into the presidency on January 28, 2017.

The call was intended for Putin to congratulate Trump on his victory, but the new president was "obsequious" and "fawning," even apologizing to the dictator for not calling him sooner, anonymous former White House aides told the Post.

"He was like, 'Oh my gosh, my people didn't tell me you wanted to talk to me,'" according to one person with direct knowledge of the call. And in another Putin call, Trump is said to have asked his Russian counterpart for advice on how to deal with North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un.


"We couldn't figure out early on why he was being so nice to Russia," a former senior administration official added.
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TRUMP 'FAWNING' TO PUTIN AND OTHER AUTHORITARIANS IN 'EMBARRASSING' PHONE CALLS, WHITE HOUSE AIDES S (Original Post) Demovictory9 Oct 2019 OP
That supports the suspicions Newest Reality Oct 2019 #1
It's like trying to have a serious conversation COLGATE4 Oct 2019 #2
And yet what does it say about them? ananda Oct 2019 #3
and are only coming forward NOW. Three years this has been happening for God's sake. flibbitygiblets Oct 2019 #13
Exactly. They stayed too long. zentrum Oct 2019 #25
So let me get this straight. You're telling me that his private behavior is bullwinkle428 Oct 2019 #4
lol Demovictory9 Oct 2019 #6
I had a boss like that once. tanyev Oct 2019 #5
"We couldn't figure out why he was so nice to Putin"???? What planet do these people come from? Perseus Oct 2019 #7
fuck republicans, That's about all I can say. pangaia Oct 2019 #18
Suck ups Python boot Oct 2019 #8
Yeah, that was amazing watching those RepubliCON Senators go pay homage to Russia Farmer-Rick Oct 2019 #16
It was to collect in person a few million rubles each! Tax evasion, no paper trail, big suitcases. machoneman Oct 2019 #22
Trump the giddy schoolgirl. Historic NY Oct 2019 #9
English teacher here NJCher Oct 2019 #27
I don't know how this behavior from Trump should "shock" anyone. ooky Oct 2019 #10
Subpoena the server! abqtommy Oct 2019 #11
It's called 'networking ' superpatriotman Oct 2019 #12
"months and months of work that were upended by one impulsive tweet," -- worst pres ever Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2019 #14
How would Republicans have reacted if Obama behaved like Trump? Martin Eden Oct 2019 #15
"The White House staff", as elegantly described by Lunatica: Sugar Smack Oct 2019 #17
"We couldn't figure out early on why he was being so nice to Russia." Garrett78 Oct 2019 #19
Trump is like one of those fuckups who are attracted to serial killers on Death Row. Snake Plissken Oct 2019 #20
Revealing Benedict Donald Kid Berwyn Oct 2019 #21
Demand that TT Moscow Letter of Intent be Rescinded ASAP! MartyTheGreek Oct 2019 #23
he's like a little toady............ Takket Oct 2019 #24
They were just talking about this on "AM Joy." calimary Oct 2019 #26
Disgusting. When I read about this, I wanted to throw up. What a disgusting, vile, pathetic, ... SWBTATTReg Oct 2019 #28
Remember that pic of... Pluvious Oct 2019 #29
Good gosh! Baked Potato Oct 2019 #30
One thing we know for sure... SummerSnow Oct 2019 #31
I feel like we knew this at the time. unblock Oct 2019 #32
It's incredibly discouraging to know 40-50%? of U.S. are totally fine with all this. Evolve Dammit Oct 2019 #33
Imagine what Trump does with Putin when they are alone dlk Oct 2019 #34
A trump humper I know Dirty Socialist Oct 2019 #35
If anybody besides Trump behaved like that NewJeffCT Oct 2019 #36

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
1. That supports the suspicions
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 09:05 AM
Oct 2019

Tin pot dictator wannabe wants to emulate billionaire, authoritarian Oligarch.

Maybe very jelly, too?

He has a great role model. Now, how long before he pulls it off? As long as he is in office, this is a concern. How long can he viciously kick America in the teeth before it is completely toothless? The blood is dripping and spattered all over.

Our Dunning-Kruger poster boy is a mental midget, (obviously) except for his by rote manipulation tactics. Putin, for instance, has a law degree and was an Intelligence officer for sixteen years. Who's the potential patsy here, as well?

This is the test and the time of great consequence! We have a country and a Constitution to protect and it is seriously threatened from within and without. Take heed.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
25. Exactly. They stayed too long.
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 11:59 AM
Oct 2019

They didn't whistle blow when it could have helped.

They colluded by silence.

They're disgusting, part of the problem.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
4. So let me get this straight. You're telling me that his private behavior is
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 09:32 AM
Oct 2019

EXACTLY LIKE his public behavior???

tanyev

(42,550 posts)
5. I had a boss like that once.
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 09:35 AM
Oct 2019

I was still in early stages of employment with him, so I hadn’t yet seen his full Trumpian aspects, but he was always complaining about the guy he reported to, who was in another building. This man was supposedly an unreasonable jerk who wouldn’t let my boss do any of the things he needed to do.

One day he took me along to one of their meetings so I could see for myself. I watched in astonishment as my boss turned into a completely different person. He was nervous, obsequious, and sat in a chair clear on the other side of the office that could have easily been moved closer. I got the chair closer to the “monster’s” desk, who seemed like a very pleasant, competent person. It was odd.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
7. "We couldn't figure out why he was so nice to Putin"???? What planet do these people come from?
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 09:39 AM
Oct 2019

If you live in planet Earth you know why he fawns at Putin, but if you live in Mars and just came in to join the corruption then I can understand why you would not know. Another question is, once you understood why he fawns at Putin, why did you stay, why didn't you come out and tell the World what is happening?

It drives me nuts to hear people on TV say "I understand why so and so would not want to come out in public because he/she is in a blue/purple state where he/she may lose votes.", or "because they could lose their jobs"...Are you kidding me? You are putting a senate or congress sit, or a lousy job in the WH where you are most probably miserable witnessing all the horrendous things republicans are doing to the country and the World instead of being a real patriot and coming out and exposing them? What is wrong with everyone where a sit or a job are more important than your country, your future,that of next generations?

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
18. fuck republicans, That's about all I can say.
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 11:14 AM
Oct 2019

We know there are assholes like this all over the world. But, when we 'discover' them here, we're surprised..

NOT !!


Python boot

(74 posts)
8. Suck ups
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 10:16 AM
Oct 2019

Prior to the public embarrassment known as the Helsinki Summit, several repug senators went to Moscow to meet with foreign minister Lavrov on July 3, 2018. Senators Shelby, Kennedy, Thune, Johnson and others all felt a need to spend the Fourth of July in Russia. All Repubs are guilty of sucking up to russia.

Farmer-Rick

(10,154 posts)
16. Yeah, that was amazing watching those RepubliCON Senators go pay homage to Russia
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 11:02 AM
Oct 2019

On our country's b-day. I couldn't believe RepubliCON voters didn't object. It was so obvious that little man Putin arranged it to rubb in his control over them.

And no RepubliCON seemed to care. It was dumbfounding.

machoneman

(4,006 posts)
22. It was to collect in person a few million rubles each! Tax evasion, no paper trail, big suitcases.
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 11:37 AM
Oct 2019

I would not doubt it.

ooky

(8,922 posts)
10. I don't know how this behavior from Trump should "shock" anyone.
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 10:39 AM
Oct 2019

I've come to expect it. He fawned to Putin in Helsinki on TV cameras in front of the whole world.

Martin Eden

(12,863 posts)
15. How would Republicans have reacted if Obama behaved like Trump?
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 10:53 AM
Oct 2019

Hell, they demonized Obama regardless what he did or said.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
19. "We couldn't figure out early on why he was being so nice to Russia."
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 11:17 AM
Oct 2019

Really? You really couldn't figure that out? Did you hibernate through 2015 and 2016?

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
20. Trump is like one of those fuckups who are attracted to serial killers on Death Row.
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 11:25 AM
Oct 2019

He even writes love letter to Putin and Kim Jong-un

Kid Berwyn

(14,876 posts)
21. Revealing Benedict Donald
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 11:29 AM
Oct 2019

Guy punches down and kisses up.

His obsequiousness toward Vladimir shows who’s his boss.

MartyTheGreek

(565 posts)
23. Demand that TT Moscow Letter of Intent be Rescinded ASAP!
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 11:55 AM
Oct 2019

This will spotlight that there was, and still is, a Letter Of Intent signed during the Spring of 2016 and assumed to be and still open LOI between Trump and rusky developers for Trump Tower Moscow. One reason Cohen is in jail is that he lied about talks going up through June 2016. Some say talks went even later.

There is no known record to cancel this project or effort by POTUS to rescind it so Congress must demand that submit a letter cancelling this project. Trump is basically holding a draft contract for TT Moscow with Pukin getting his own floor among the rusky oligarchs that financed "meddling" and targeted psycho-graphic ads through Fake Book users during our elections of 2016.

Takket

(21,560 posts)
24. he's like a little toady............
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 11:58 AM
Oct 2019

who sucks up to the bullies, gets them snacks and doesn't even realize that they are laughing at him, not with him

calimary

(81,220 posts)
26. They were just talking about this on "AM Joy."
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 12:00 PM
Oct 2019

Dear God what a mess.

I don’t envy the Democratic president who has to come in and start cleaning this up.

SWBTATTReg

(22,112 posts)
28. Disgusting. When I read about this, I wanted to throw up. What a disgusting, vile, pathetic, ...
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 12:06 PM
Oct 2019

and ignorant human being (rump). I'd like to copy this damn 'fawning' article and send it to every single 'fawning' republican senator for the next 1+ year, until we take the office in 2020 November (and the Senate too).

Pardon me while I throw up. Disgusting.

Pluvious

(4,309 posts)
29. Remember that pic of...
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 12:07 PM
Oct 2019

...Putin and the Saudi "prince" high fiving each other with giddy grins ?

While the Orange Man Baby watches them from across the room,
looking like a neglected puppy dog ?

This is a most shameful and embarrassing time for our Country.

Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
30. Good gosh!
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 12:09 PM
Oct 2019

We’re gonna need a Congressional Commission to study these Fuggerz. Trump is the showman they push onto the stage every day. The puppet masters behind the curtains are the real evil here.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
31. One thing we know for sure...
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 12:18 PM
Oct 2019

is that Obama was never a patsy for Putin. Trump even has the nerve to say that Putin played Obama. lol. Putin knew he couldn't play Obama on his worse day. Putin does know that Trump is HIS patsy through and through. Imagine what he says about Trump to his staff.

unblock

(52,196 posts)
32. I feel like we knew this at the time.
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 12:30 PM
Oct 2019

Maybe more details now, certainly about locking up the transcript.

But the tone of the calls I feel like we knew already.

Evolve Dammit

(16,723 posts)
33. It's incredibly discouraging to know 40-50%? of U.S. are totally fine with all this.
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 07:44 PM
Oct 2019

I can't even handle C-Span Washington Journal anymore. The stupid just burns. The dumbing down of America has happened. It's like Carlin said: "The real owners" want people just smart enough to run the machines. They do not want them capable of critical thinking and sitting around the kitchen table talking the system that threw them overboard 30 f'in years ago or about the big, red white and blue dick being jammed up their a-hole every day. God I miss him. He nailed it 30 years ago.

dlk

(11,552 posts)
34. Imagine what Trump does with Putin when they are alone
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 08:15 PM
Oct 2019

Could Republicans have come up with a worse dirtbag?

Dirty Socialist

(3,252 posts)
35. A trump humper I know
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 08:27 PM
Oct 2019

Says this means Trump isn't a wimpy politician. This is a reason Trump is so popular. I. Kid. You. Not.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
36. If anybody besides Trump behaved like that
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 10:31 PM
Oct 2019

This same Trumpster would be trotting out words like "cuck" or "soy boy"

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