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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI don't know if I buy all these Republicans secretly hate what Trump is doing
The Republican Party of old has died.
This is the Trump party filled with kooks and deplorables.
They welcome the disinformation and conspiracy theories along with the racism and everything else.
Their pathetic deplorable following do not know how to discern truth from stupid conspiracies. They have someone else to blame for their woes - immigrants
It keeps them where the Republicans want them. Unable to see what's really going on - all the roll back of policy that eventually hurt them in the future, the tax breaks to the wealthy - that does not benefit them, trying to take away their healthcare and on and on.
If the Republicans truly detested Trump, they would join with Democrats to try to take back their party from Trump and perhaps restore some dignity to their party. Sure some members may lose seats but if it means restoring the party then so be it. As far as the Trump base, yeah, they would whine and cry about it but eventually they get over it. What are they gonna do? Vote for democrats? That's never going to happen for the hard core Trump base. If they want to keep things like conservative judges then they will still vote Republican.

Lib 4 Life
(97 posts)thegoose
(3,115 posts)I'm old enough to have voted against Ray-gun They've always been a party of scum. Dump just lets them celebrate their filthiness out in the open, thanks to Russian manipulation.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)The anti-Trump Republicans are in complete denial about that. Gee, you mean all of our dog whistling (from Nixon to Reagan to Bush) and poverty-shaming and LGBTQ-bashing and hypocrisy and right wing hate radio and Fox News and anti-government propaganda and war profiteering and NRA-promoting and extreme deregulation and extreme privatization and attacks on science and attacks on higher education and so on and so forth helped lay the groundwork for someone such as Trump??? Nooooo, that can't be.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)thanks..
may I use it?
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)...don't impress me. But I'll take their Trump bashing if it helps rid us of him.
The Mouth
(3,059 posts)as much as a cause, if not more so.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)erronis
(14,190 posts)So what if the (R)epuglicon brand has been trashed?
We can still make $$$ on the imbeciles that continue to support that old elephant. The imbeciles won't know/care that the whole "conservative" platform has collapsed to be replaced by the "memememe" one. They'll continue to send donations to PO Boxes and organizations with fancy letterhead and flags waving.
LakeArenal
(28,029 posts)They just want to squeeze as much money as they can hide overseas before it implodes.
DrToast
(6,414 posts)They like some things he's doing (judges, tax cuts, etc.) and don't like some things he's doing (trade wars, abandoning the Kurds, etc.).
drmeow
(4,864 posts)that he's taken all their ardent desires to their most extreme version making it harder for them to claim that those desires are benevolent. He's ripped the mask of civilization off of them and they are furious because it makes it harder for them to hide in plain sight.
Poiuyt
(17,931 posts)It will either be the traditional Republican party against Trumpocracy or traditional conservatives will break away and leave the Republican party to the Trumpists.
Goodheart
(4,966 posts)has degenerated into a party of degenerates.
JHB
(37,042 posts)Conservatives were never going to get a crack at finally undoing popular programs like Social Security and Medicare (or as they think of them, "socialism" ) unless they forced the people they considered quislings within their own ranks out of power.
They set up a system that pushed peoples' hot buttons and encouraged them to single-issue vote on them. Compromise was scorned as capitulation, and backsliders were to be punished for their infidelity, long before the term "RINO" was coined. And down went the Rockefeller Republicans and their like.
Once done, they took what they learned and pointed it at the Democrats, ratcheted up the rhetoric year after year after year, and called it "playing hardball."
But the drawback is: When you paint the story that way, it's supposed to end with you bringing the bad guys to justice. They rot in jail, or better yet get hanged or fried. Blow up the Death Star. Drop the Ring into the fires of Mount Doom. The Enemy surrenders unconditionally and their symbols get blown up.
Your audience wants this:
But they never get it.
When you tell that story for decades, continually amping it up to keep the audience's blood at a rolling boil, you create an expectation that you can never really deliver on. You can justify decades of investigations and re-investigations and re-re-re-re-re-re-re-investigations, but that's not going turn up anything that will hold up in court. So you put yourself into the position of portraying the other side as unbearably evil and an active threat, and then don't do anything about it. The base still has their hot buttons pushed, still believes every word of it, they just start thinking you're ineffectual at best, or more likely are part of the problem.
NCLefty
(3,678 posts)Nasruddin
(672 posts)Best to think of them all as narcissistic psychopaths who would kill and eat their own mothers,
until proven otherwise.
Occasionally you can ally with such twisted people, but you have to keep yourself safe.
flamingdem
(39,267 posts)
malthaussen
(16,657 posts)They love what Mr Trump has been doing, they're only pissed that it's becoming harder to get away with it.
-- Mal
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)Republicans love what Trump is doing. They just wish he wasn't such a blubbering oaf while doing it.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)The entire GOP is just racists and trolls at this point. The age of the conservative intellectual has long since passed.
Nitram
(22,190 posts)kentuck
(110,656 posts)imo.
radical noodle
(7,915 posts)but I think many of them hate trump personally. trump is not a likable person and his nasty attitude can't go over well with people who think they're God's gift to America.
certainot
(9,090 posts)putin figured it out at least a decade ago. after getting traashed by the voice of america for half a century putin turned the tables, figuring out all they had to do was figure out how to feed limbaugh - who happens to be trump's neighbor, friend, and golf partner
all dems have to do is make the connection and expose it but they don't even poll for it
getting beaten by ghosts and he who must not be named