Breaking - DOJ is handing over unredacted Mueller Report info to the

[malaise]

House Committee.
Barr apparently is afraid of ending up like Mitchell.

[Kali]

1. !

[Bernardo de La Paz]

79. Link, somebody? I can't find a link on a news search engine to anything resembling the OP. . . . nt

[malaise]

89. Still can't find a link n/t

[Mister Ed]

2. Redacted, or unredacted?

Wan't the redacted report was delivered months ago?

[malaise]

4. Thanks Mr Ed

[Mister Ed]

8. Thanks for the edit, and for this early alert.

This could be huge.

[getagrip_already]

64. Unredacted or unedited?

They haven't turned over an honest document yet.

Hopefully the house will ask Mueller if it is indeed complete and accurate.

[Johnny2X2X]

5. My thoughts too

The redacted version has been available to the public for months. They not only need the un-redacted versions, they need the Grand Jury testimony and evidence.

[malthaussen]

3. "Redacted," forsooth?

One should not hand over redacted materials to an oversight committee. It kind of makes a mockery of the word "Oversight."

On edit: ah, "unredacted." Forget I spoke.

From where I sit,Mr Barr is worthy of a far worse fate than Mr Mitchell.

-- Mal

[malaise]

6. Unredacted - corrected and I agree with you re

Barr v Mitchell

[dchill]

32. The devil is in the redactions.

[Botany]

7. And this is why Trump has been sending people like Barr, Pompeo, Giuliani, and others all ...

... over the world to find "dirt" on the investigations that led to the Mueller report because they can't argue the facts of the case so they have to argue about the processes from which those facts arose. But at the end of the day multiple intelligence agencies all over the
world have one overarching conclusion and that is Russia fucked with our elections and both the Trump campaign and many republicans were well aware of what was going on @ the time.

******


“If the facts are against you, argue the law. If the law is against you, argue the facts. If the law and the facts are against you, pound the table and yell like hell”


― Carl Sandburg

******
Everybody should remember what Trump said when he was told that Mueller was going to investigate Trump & Russia,
"I'm fucked. This is the end of my Presidency."

[malaise]

18. +1,000

And that's the truth - they know the truth is coming so they need some fake shit

[Botany]

22. The Mueller Report (which we have not seen) is going to be devastating for Trump and company.

Multiple intel agencies form many different countries along with our own intel agencies
no doubt have the goods on Trump and Russia and their crimes.

https://themoscowproject.org/explainers/trumps-russia-cover-up-by-the-numbers-70-contacts-with-russia-linked-operatives/

[malaise]

26. I can't wait

Truth will out

[lagomorph777]

58. Would have been less risky to make up fake shit. This 3 Stooges diplomacy is just nuts.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

75. Yeah but they drink their own koolade & swim in swamp full of conspiracy theories

They actually believe there is a there there.

[lagomorph777]

76. Maybe some believe that. I'm sure most know better.

[emmaverybo]

30. Excellent post. And love me some Carl Sandburg.

[dchill]

33. And how many will die because of Barr's illegal stall tactics?

[Botany]

47. Not only Barr's tactics but Trump and Putin too

We are dealing with the largest international crime syndicate in history. As per dead people we have the one in Florida who is linked to Roger Stone, Jeffrey Epstein, and a bunch of Russians. One who got pushed out of a 5th floor window by his bath tub.

Barr is the consigliere to this operation and Trump is Vlad's useful idiot. See him giving up Eastern Ukraine (oil, gas, and pipelines) and Syria (pipelines) to Putin.

[dchill]

60. Agreed. They all assumed their offices with...

...a Bizarro World level of criminal intent. All of them.

[Botany]

65. Vlad and Russia have been working "the long game" with Trump for 20+ years

Russian money propped him up and Russia helped to finance "The Apprentice" in order to
sell to a certain segment of gullible Americans that Trump was some kind of billionaire business
genius when in reality nothing could be further from the truth.

This "thing" is so big that no one person or even a group of persons could get their head or heads
around it. I think the only person who really understands all the machinations of this international
criminal operation is Vlad himself.

[dchill]

66. I know - I thought enough people knew this...

..that he'd never even come close to the presidency.

[Botany]

73. I think Trump lost by a much bigger margin then 3,000,000 votes

The Brennan Institute showed that 16 million people were removed before the 2016 election.

https://politicalwire.com/2019/05/15/almost-16-million-removed-from-voter-rolls/

But Russia and the right wing fed into the "I hate Hillary" because she is a d**e b***h w/a
liberal agenda so that Trump has a 25 to 30% of mouth breathers that helped to keep the
election close. Our "liberal media" never talks about all the states that Hillary won in the exit
polls but lost in the vote count and I might be wrong but those were states were voters were
flipped, voters were kept from voting or having their votes counted.

[dchill]

74. They preload the narrative to make their cheating...

...seem plausible. 2000, 2004, 2016. It would have happened to Obama if he had won by big margins. And on it goes.

[Doremus]

77. He won by 80K voters in the rust belt. nt

[Botany]

82. And 200,000 voters were removed in Wisconsin, 80,000 voters in the Flint/Detroit area showed up ....

.... and voted but skipped voting for President, and Russia had a huge effort in PA.

[amywalk]

99. Exactly. If you remember, at the end of the night, those states were initially in the Clinton

won category, but they all of a sudden flipped over to Trump. This has happened so many times starting with Bush when JEB! Brought home Florida for his brother and stole it from Gore. Back to the present day, Andrew Gillum and Stacey Abrams won their states, but it was switched at the end just enough to win, but not enough to trigger an automatic recount. They can’t win without cheating.

[Iliyah]

9. Again, I do not trust these Republicans . . .

Nevertheless, this is a "good" sign.

[CentralMass]

101. I agree. This is a full blown conspiracy to obstruct justice.

At the very least I hope that the Democrats drag it into the sunlight and make it obvious:what a pack of criminsls the GOP is every chance that they can.

[Bettie]

10. I believe you

but I can't find any mention of it in news sources...

[malaise]

20. Heard it on Miami Local 10 at noon from their DC reporter - looking for a link

[Bettie]

24. OK.

Just haven't been able to find it online yet.

Makes you wonder how much more shit is about to hit the fan if they are willing to put that out there.

[pnwmom]

45. I'm having trouble finding a link. And this sort of says the opposite.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/08/justice-department-objects-to-house-getting-mueller-grand-jury-info.html

[MarkmBha1]

11. The End is in sight.

[Mme. Defarge]

12. Enfin!

Formidable!!!

[Dennis Donovan]

13. The House Dems really need to see the Grand Jury materials, but there's a Nixon angle

Link to tweet

Matthew Miller ✔ @matthewamiller

Huh. I did not see the “Nixon was treated unfairly” argument coming.

Spencer Hsu ✔ @hsu_spencer

DEVELOPING Trump Justice Dept. asks U.S. judge to reject House Judiciary Committee request for Mueller grand jury materials, argues courts in 1974 wrongly gave Congress the Watergate grand jury 'roadmap' that led to President Nixon's impeachment.

12:20 PM - Oct 8, 2019

[tavalon]

16. They can ask,

but they won't get.

[renate]

28. I really like Matt Miller

I hope he'll keep showing up on TV after this is all over.

[machoneman]

41. Wow, talk about a slap in the face to the current SC! Heck, even 1-2 conservatives may vote....

against these blockheads just to make a point.

Geez, they and Trumpy have pissed off every single judicial, Congressional and investigative agency that exists. The NSA, CIA, FBI and all the careerist Fed'l employees at State, Education, HUD, NEA and more must be mighty pissed at the OrangeFueher. These are the folks that will do him in with scores more whistleblowers yet to come forth.

I say............GO TEAM!

[elleng]

14. Glad they're doing it,

and only thing I'd like as well as trump out of White House (and imprisoned) will be barr disbarred and imprisoned.

[tavalon]

17. I want many more things, actually

Those two are my starters but I want the bus to be fully stalled because of the coverup in process.

It's not the crime, it's the coverup. Wait, no, it's both.

[elleng]

19. Yes it's both.

[sprinkleeninow]

38. Our rallying cry?:

[kag]

86. Me too.

McConnell is at the top of my list. Also (besides Trump and Barr) Giuliani, Nunes, Ron Johnson, Jim Jordan, and I'm sure there are others. Every one needs to be investigated and prosecuted if they broke the law. And at the very least, they all need to be kicked out of office, disbarred, and publicly shamed.

I'm not bitter.

[amywalk]

100. And Kavanaugh impeached and getting to the bottom of the Kennedy buy out

Of his SCJ seat and security for his son. We need to know who paid off Kavanaugh’s credit card debt.

[tavalon]

15. I hope they didn't offer a quid pro quo

Yes, I really, really did that.

[malaise]

21. Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

I see what you did there

[W_HAMILTON]

23. Where are you seeing this?

I don't see it on CNN, MSN, or Twitter...

[malaise]

25. Heard it on Local 10 Miami

I too am looking for a link

[Bernardo de La Paz]

83. You'd think that after four (4) hours, the OP would have admitted to a mistake. . . . nt

[BSdetect]

27. Barr must have shat his pants I guess. No deals for him I hope.

[Newest Reality]

29. Forsooth!

Egads! 'Tis all in the getting. For will the scoundrels hand their soiled sheets to an interlocutor, or clutch them firmly to their greasy breasts, bemoaning the sheer meanness of such calls to justice? What getting can there be from vipers in a moot?

[vsrazdem]

31. Yes, because courts love to hear that they were wrong. That will really help them.

[superpatriotman]

35. There's nothing in it that hasn't been seen

Don't get excited.

[Hoyt]

37. Tend to agree. We get excited about every new bombshell, then it fizzles.

The Ukraine shakedown, on the other hand, has legs and doesn’t require connecting hundreds of dots. And trump just keeps digging himself deeper.

[StarfishSaver]

36. Source?

Are you sure you're not thinking about the grand jury materials?

[TidalWave46]

44. That is the main Mueller info that the Democrats are after this morning.

The DOJ is in possession of it.

[Gothmog]

39. Barr may yet up serving time like Mitchell

[dlk]

40. The pending DC bar complaint may have had an impact

Barr is too corrupt to have a law license.

[True Blue American]

69. 2 complaints now!

[dlk]

72. Even better!

[hlthe2b]

42. That's a bit of fresh air this morning...

[TidalWave46]

43. This mornings negotiations have been interesting to watch.

The DOJ sees how it is going in court. First they offered thirty requested documents but that they would be redacted. Now they are offering to hand over more, underacted. It must have looked really bad for them in the court room this morning.

[ScratchCat]

48. When your only argument

Is that the previous court was wrong, you know how its all going to turn out.

Sounds like the judge is embarrassed for the DOJ attorneys because he knows they have been "forced" to go to the court and make an argument that a first year law student knows is a losing one.

[ancianita]

46. This is the "aiding and abetting" evidence for a Treason charge.

[blogslut]

49. Maybe you misheard?

AFAIK the House wants the Mueller report turned over but the DOJ is trying to block the release of it.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/08/justice-department-objects-to-house-getting-mueller-grand-jury-info.html

[hlthe2b]

51. Yes. That seems to be the case.

Link to tweet

[Takket]

91. THAT is their argument????

Does drumpf actually have lawyers or just kids playing MAD-LIBs to come up with ideas???

[Jim__]

50. How do we know it's unredacted? Do we have Barr's word?

[EveHammond13]

52. I will never believe this until after it is done and Schiff confirms it.

[Peace06]

53. How will we know

That it is legitimately Muellers' report? So much corruption. Will Mueller verify it? Nothing can be taken at face value at this point.

[rurallib]

55. first thing that popped into my head

"trust but verify" Saint Ronnie the Republican once said. Seems like a very good idea in this case, but how to verify?

[pecosbob]

54. U.S. Chief District Judge Howell's ruling predicted to go against Trump and the DOJ

on the Congressional subpeona for the Mueller report grand jury materials.

Any actually truly classified material (as opposed to GOP-classified so as not to embarass Herr Marmalade) will only be seen by the House Select Committee I would assume.

[George II]

56. When I saw the first part of your headline I was afraid it was "to the Senate Committee"....

....which would be meaningless.

The HOUSE Committee is big. This is going to be good.

[EveHammond13]

57. Barr is not afraid of anything except failing to own the libs

[ffr]

59. Is this to get them to focus their energy on the Mueller report and slow the I.I?

Fuck the Mueller report. Full steam ahead. We'll go over that material some other time.

We've got him nailed on abuse of power, obstruction of justice and conspiracy to conceal a crime...along with a laundry list of other crimes.

[NCjack]

61. Barr gave Trump bad legal advice and owes him an explanation. Should be exciting

when Trump realizes how deep the "deep state" (Constitution and Federal Courts) is and what his embarrassment will be.

[True Blue American]

70. Trump sounds like a 2 year old,

Caught doing something bad, trying to lie his way out of it.

[zentrum]

62. Or is it that Mitch

...gave Barr the go-ahead, based on the pro-impeachment polls rising? So he wants to force Trump to resign now, ahead of the elections. Thinking Repugs will do better under the banner of Pence and "re-electing" him in Nov than a crazy, uncontrollable Trump.

See what I mean?

Mitch hates Trump and is worried about Trump's ability to tear-down all of them. May be thinking he'll salvage what he can and that it's become time to short circuit this daily drip-drip.

[0rganism]

63. I hope the chairman remembers to check for sharpie edits

fortunately they do have a distinct odor

[kentuck]

67. Why??

So they can say that they have been cooperative and there isn't anything else they should turn over?

Probably?

[BadgerMom]

68. I wish Barr feared Mitchell's fate.

I believe Barr’s actions to this point have far outstripped Mitchell’s misdeeds.

[liberalla]

71. YES!!!

Finally! I hope at some point the complete report will be available to anyone/everyone.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

78. Link, somebody? I'm not finding any link to this story on news search engine.

[eleny]

80. If it wasn't you posting I'd think it was a spoof

Rec'd!

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

81. This has been up for hours now without a source. Is this accurate or not? nt

[malaise]

85. Not sure but the judge has made some interesting comments n/t

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

88. Ok, but the OP is not accurate then? Because as of right now they're not handing these out. Am I

missing something here?

[malaise]

90. Until I find a link you are right but there is this

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212559542

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

92. Thx. nt

[40RatRod]

84. I wasted my time reading this entire thread...

...about something that never happened.

[Bonx]

93. I like to think it happened, so I enjoyed it.

[justie18]

102. Yes!

Me too - wasted all this time reading through comments and googling story - this is fake news - ugh.

[dajoki]

87. I'll believe it when I see it n/t

[dhol82]

94. He'll end up like Mitchell anyway

He’s in this shit show waaaay too deep.

[milestogo]

95. Please hand it over to the NYTimes and Washington Post.

[orleans]

96. i heard that on hartmann's show tuesday

so i googled and this is as good as i could find

the judge hasn't ruled yet

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/justice-department-asks-judge-block-house-obtaining-mueller-grand-jury-n1063856

[NCLefty]

97. I like how skeptical many of you are. That gives me hope... for the future...

"WHERE'S THE SOURCE LINK?! WHERE IS IT!!"

[wishstar]

98. OP is premature speculation since Judge Howell has not yet ruled on Congress' request

At the hearing yesterday the DOJ argued against releasing the unredacted report. Judge who is an an Obama appointee seemed skeptical of DOJ's argument and may rule for release, but DOJ will probably try to stonewall and appeal even if Judge Howell orders release to Congress.

"Justice Department asks judge to block House from getting Mueller grand jury materials, says Watergate decision was wrong"

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/08/justice-department-objects-to-house-getting-mueller-grand-jury-info.html

[dajoki]

103. Where is a link?

I've been looking for one and can't find any. Is this for real?