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brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 09:05 PM Oct 2019

George Will: No Republican who supports Trump should be re-elected

Raw Story

Conservative commentator George Will left the Republican Party when President Donald Trump took over, and in his Thursday column, he attacked the president for “frivolousness and stupidity.”

Writing in the Washington Post, Will recalled the times Trump complimented his own intelligence, saying “I’m a very stable genius” and that he has “a very good brain.” In reality, Trump is “spiraling downward in a tightening gyre,” said Will.

Such “unhinged public performances” are “as alarming as they are embarrassing,” he explained. Meanwhile, he’s crafting international policy “so flippantly that it has stirred faint flickers of thinking among Congress’s vegetative Republicans.”

The reference was to the decision this week to allow Turkey to kill Kurdish allies, who have been fighting off ISIS in Syria on behalf of the U.S. government. Trump was reportedly on the phone with Turkish President Erdoğan, who was furious. Trump wanted to get off the phone and essentially agreed to betray the U.S. allies.
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George Will: No Republican who supports Trump should be re-elected (Original Post) brooklynite Oct 2019 OP
George Will's decades of nonsense BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #1
+1. But we need conservative voices against Trump, too. nt tblue37 Oct 2019 #2
Yes we do. But as I wrote, have they thought about their role in bringing Trump about. Blue_true Oct 2019 #8
They just dislike his vulgarity & that he says the quiet part out loud. For the most part they are tblue37 Oct 2019 #17
Exactly. Blue_true Oct 2019 #6
The laundry list also includes the now-deceased Krauthammer BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #16
+1 dalton99a Oct 2019 #19
Totally. Add the deceased William Safire and William F Buckley to your extended list. Blue_true Oct 2019 #20
Oh yeah. BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #21
That pompous dick with a thesaurus still thinks "liberals are wrong about Guy Whitey Corngood Oct 2019 #11
Yep. I suspect they still favor the idea that they... dchill Oct 2019 #15
Does not get much more high profile conservative than George Will. Remember a column of his in which emmaverybo Oct 2019 #3
I was a college English teacher at the time, too. Brainstormy Oct 2019 #5
I imagine he still feels the same way. What a sweeping insult! He is not ever going to make up emmaverybo Oct 2019 #7
A broken clock is correct twice a day. GoCubsGo Oct 2019 #4
glad there's at least 1 thing on which I can agree with George Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2019 #9
I don't remember ever agreeing with any of Will's political opinions, Susan Calvin Oct 2019 #10
George will is flat out a fucking asshole rufus dog Oct 2019 #12
But what about Trump's "great and unmatched wisdom?" tclambert Oct 2019 #13
He must think he still has sway hibbing Oct 2019 #14
No Republican should be re-elected Wounded Bear Oct 2019 #18

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
8. Yes we do. But as I wrote, have they thought about their role in bringing Trump about.
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 10:10 PM
Oct 2019

I admire that they have the gloves off and are going bare-knuckles against Trump. But they helped make that man possible, when we are rid of him and back on firm ground, I wonder whether they will regress back to where they were with W.

tblue37

(68,423 posts)
17. They just dislike his vulgarity & that he says the quiet part out loud. For the most part they are
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 01:06 AM
Oct 2019

OK with the other stuff he does. Even the corruption would not bother them, except he is so blatant about it that it exposes and makes vulnerable the entire Republican Party.

They don't feel responsible for or guilty about anything.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
6. Exactly.
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 10:05 PM
Oct 2019

Will, Jennifer Rubin, Rick Wilson, Anna Navarro, many others that are now aghast at what their former party has become. They helped welcome in the rightwing evangelicals and played footsie with racists to win elections and apply their "solutions" to the country wit large. I am glad that they are out front throwing punches now, but I wonder whether they have taken some time to think deeply about how they helped bring the current state of affairs about.

BumRushDaShow

(169,395 posts)
16. The laundry list also includes the now-deceased Krauthammer
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 11:46 PM
Oct 2019

and of all people, Bill Kristol (who continues to boggle my mind).

These were the veteran Raygun Republicans who spent 30 years condenscendingly tormenting "liberals", only rarely conceding some points. And the result was to produce a new generation of Koch-purchased, Russian-compromised Republicans who despite having a myriad of college and/or law degrees, manage to act like a bunch of uncouth childish bullies, who won't think for themselves, and who insist on embracing conspiracy theories and spouting idiotic talking points that have no connection to any traditional conservative policy positions.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
20. Totally. Add the deceased William Safire and William F Buckley to your extended list.
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 06:53 PM
Oct 2019

When I was in college, I remember Safire's attacks on the Carter Presidency and his open embrace of the vilest aspects of Reaganism. Safire often wrote columns that were thinly veiled cries of White anger at the ascending POC and immigrants that seemed to scare him so much.

Buckley gave all that nonsense intellectual heft (for the life of me, I don't understand why he was considered such a thinker, his writings were typically trite, with some big words thrown in).

BumRushDaShow

(169,395 posts)
21. Oh yeah.
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 07:05 PM
Oct 2019

We had a subscription to the NYT since back in the mid-70s and I certainly remember Safire's columns (including the "On Language" series) and of course Buckley was the father of what became "modern conservatism"... although he was owned by James Baldwin during their famous debate and I expect he is rolling in his grave at the anti-intellectualism embraced by the current loons.

 

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,848 posts)
11. That pompous dick with a thesaurus still thinks "liberals are wrong about
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 10:59 PM
Oct 2019

everything else". I could give a fuck if he now feels he should jump in the bandwagon to stay relevant. No Reagan, no Bush, no Trump. One can only imagine what they'll nominate next. Face ripping monkey?

dchill

(42,660 posts)
15. Yep. I suspect they still favor the idea that they...
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 11:30 PM
Oct 2019

...could really use a clueless charisma in the White House.

emmaverybo

(8,148 posts)
3. Does not get much more high profile conservative than George Will. Remember a column of his in which
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 09:25 PM
Oct 2019

he denounced all college teachers for indoctrinating students with liberal ideas. I was a college English teacher at the time, horrified that he could preach against teaching students critical thinking skills and introducing them to ideas.

He has become a highly effective and outspoken critic of the Trump machine and its enablers. This
is not the only time he has urged the public to vote against Republicans.

We keep asking Republicans to denounce Trump. He is doing so.

emmaverybo

(8,148 posts)
7. I imagine he still feels the same way. What a sweeping insult! He is not ever going to make up
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 10:09 PM
Oct 2019

for that. Will was never a top-rate writer or intellect, so one can see how he might develop an antipathy for academics he felt would judge him as mediocre. Spewed a great deal of infuriating garbage in his time.

Still, I agree with him going forward. Trump enablers should be voted out.

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
9. glad there's at least 1 thing on which I can agree with George
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 10:22 PM
Oct 2019

Did George ever stop fawning over Rotten Ronnie?

Susan Calvin

(2,434 posts)
10. I don't remember ever agreeing with any of Will's political opinions,
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 10:54 PM
Oct 2019

But I have a soft spot for him, because baseball.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
12. George will is flat out a fucking asshole
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 11:03 PM
Oct 2019

But he does have the best line of 2019 IMO. "If Republicans didn't have situational ethics, they wouldn't have any ethics at all.

tclambert

(11,191 posts)
13. But what about Trump's "great and unmatched wisdom?"
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 11:06 PM
Oct 2019

I don't think Lex Luthor ever said anything that egotistical.

hibbing

(10,594 posts)
14. He must think he still has sway
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 11:28 PM
Oct 2019

Sorry George, it's Rush, Hannity and all the other big brained intellectuals that are the influencers now. Granted you still are on the editorial page of my local fish wrap so the octagenerians who actually still get the paper can have their views validated.

Peace

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