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Dennis Donovan

(31,059 posts)
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 11:05 AM Oct 2019

At rally, Trump tells 5 big lies in under 3 minutes

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/10/11/rally-trump-tells-big-lies-under-minutes/

By
Greg Sargent
Opinion writer
Oct. 11, 2019 at 9:56 a.m. EDT

At his rally in Minnesota on Thursday night, President Trump raged at the media for debunking his lies about Joe Biden, and whipped his supporters into a frenzy by boasting about how many desperate refugees he has kept out of our country. Rage and hate, of course, have long been mainstays of Trump’s rallies.

But what perhaps mattered most is the fusillade of lies he uncorked about the Ukraine scandal. Trump told five big lies about it in under three minutes — and, crucially, they add up to a much larger deception that itself needs attention.

First, the big lies themselves, which came in a rant that lasted under 3 minutes:

Schiff’s depiction of Trump’s call was a “fraud.” Trump referred to the White House’s rough transcript of his July 25 call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, and Rep. Adam Schiff’s description of it before Congress, as follows:

We released the transcript of the call, which was so good that that crooked Adam Schiff ... had to make up a fake conversation that never happened … it was a total fraud.

Schiff, the California Democrat who chairs the House Intelligence Committee, did depict Trump’s call with an impersonation of a mob-style shakedown. But he explicitly said this was the “essence” of the call. Schiff then depicted what happened on the call accurately, by mimicking Trump pressing Zelensky to produce dirt on Biden, and directing Zelensky to talk to Attorney General William P. Barr and personal lawyer Rudolph Giuliani to carry it out.

You see, those things happened. The idea that the transcript was so exonerating that it forced Schiff to make up a “fraud” version of the call is a big lie. In fact, Schiff depicted what is actually in the transcript. Trump is lying to obscure what did happen on the call.

Trump has been totally transparent about the “word for word” transcript. Trump excoriated Democrats for supposedly rushing to judgment about his call, and said:

Had they waited one day longer, they would have had the transcript of the actual call, word for word.
Trump’s “word for word” claim gets at a major point of contention. Officials believe the call transcript likely contains serious, material omissions, including at the most incriminating parts where he pressed Zelensky to carry out his nefarious political scheme.

Crucially, Democrats have subpoenaed the full call transcript, but the White House has adopted a blanket defiance of any and all such subpoenas, and it may never produce the full “word for word” transcript. In that critical context, Trump’s suggestion that he’s been fully forthcoming about this transcript is another big lie.

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At rally, Trump tells 5 big lies in under 3 minutes (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Oct 2019 OP
Business as usual for Trump. lpbk2713 Oct 2019 #1
Isn't that a tad under his usual? Jirel Oct 2019 #2
"Trump is lying to obscure what did happen" there is a method to Trump's madness Demovictory9 Oct 2019 #3
He's slipping. He usually tells 10 lies in under 3 minutes. SummerSnow Oct 2019 #4

Jirel

(2,384 posts)
2. Isn't that a tad under his usual?
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 11:22 AM
Oct 2019

I'm not sure he can open his mouth without BS falling out.

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