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pangaia

(24,324 posts)
15. any sane human is a never-trumper.
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 08:32 PM
Oct 2019

so that doesn't make him special.
he's a shit fuck, slobbering asshole...

Bleacher Creature

(11,257 posts)
6. It still feels weird agreeing with Bill Kristol.
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 07:12 PM
Oct 2019

Same with George Will, Rick Wilson, etc.

I can't wait until I get to start thinking of them as crazy wingnuts again, not the least of which is because that will likely mean we've gotten through this nightmare.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
16. That's ok.. FDR had to work with Stalin !!!
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 08:36 PM
Oct 2019

And with Chiang Kai-shek (Jiang Jie-shi) and Mao Zedung, so there is that..

hlthe2b

(102,351 posts)
10. and don't forget he pushed for Sarah Palin to be VP waaay before anyone else had heard of her
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 07:25 PM
Oct 2019

That said, at least he has enough intact neurosynapses to see Trump for what he is. Perhaps he is only 100% blind when it comes to conservative WOMEN.

dalton99a

(81,570 posts)
14. +1. His infatuation was so stupid
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 07:50 PM
Oct 2019
The most ardent promoter, however, was Kristol, and his enthusiasm became the talk of Alaska’s political circles. According to Simpson, Senator Stevens told her that “Kristol was really pushing Palin” in Washington before McCain picked her. Indeed, as early as June 29th, two months before McCain chose her, Kristol predicted on “Fox News Sunday” that “McCain’s going to put Sarah Palin, the governor of Alaska, on the ticket.” He described her as “fantastic,” saying that she could go one-on-one against Obama in basketball, and possibly siphon off Hillary Clinton’s supporters. He pointed out that she was a “mother of five” and a reformer. “Go for the gold here with Sarah Palin,” he said. The moderator, Chris Wallace, finally had to ask Kristol, “Can we please get off Sarah Palin?”

The next day, however, Kristol was still talking about Palin on Fox. “She could be both an effective Vice-Presidential candidate and an effective President,” he said. “She’s young, energetic.” On a subsequent “Fox News Sunday,” Kristol again pushed Palin when asked whom McCain should pick: “Sarah Palin, whom I’ve only met once but I was awfully impressed by—a genuine reformer, defeated the establishment up there. It would be pretty wild to pick a young female Alaska governor, and I think, you know, McCain might as well go for it.” On July 22nd, again on Fox, Kristol referred to Palin as “my heartthrob.” He declared, “I don’t know if I can make it through the next three months without her on the ticket.” Reached last week, Kristol pointed out that just before McCain picked Palin he had ratcheted back his campaign a little; though he continued to tout her, he also wrote a Times column promoting Senator Joe Lieberman, of Connecticut.

On October 6th, in another Times column, Kristol cryptically acknowledged having been entertained by the Governor. He mentioned meeting Palin “in far more relaxed circumstances, in Alaska over a year ago.” The column featured one of the few interviews that Palin has granted to the national media since becoming McCain’s running mate. Kristol quoted Palin saying that the debate had been a “liberating” experience, then wrote, “Shouldn’t the public get the benefit of another Biden-Palin debate, or even two? If there’s difficulty finding a moderator, I’ll be glad to volunteer.”


SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
19. And to you, Mr. Kristol....
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 09:47 PM
Oct 2019

it's a profound national humiliation that conservatives like you laid the groundwork for enabling something like Trump to happen in our country.

People like Kristol, Norquist, Reed etc. share in the responsibility of ushering in dishonest people like Trump who would take over the GOP. Their hidden agendas became campaign promises to the likes of Trump.

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