Sat Oct 12, 2019, 01:48 PM
Jake Stern (3,143 posts)
Oberlin College appeals $31 million Gibson bakery decision
All Gibson's asked, in return for dropping the case, was for Oberlin to put out a statement that they believed that Gibson's wasn't racist but Oberlin basically told them to fuck off and a jury made them pay out the nose.
It would be interesting to see how Oberlin students and leadership really feel about free speech by having alum Michelle Malkin try to book a speaking engagement there. Read More: https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2019/10/oberlin-college-appeals-31-million-gibson-bakery-decision.html
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Author | Time | Post |
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Jake Stern | Oct 2019 | OP |
comradebillyboy | Oct 2019 | #1 | |
Jake Stern | Oct 2019 | #2 | |
Doremus | Oct 2019 | #4 | |
aikoaiko | Oct 2019 | #5 | |
Jake Stern | Oct 2019 | #7 | |
hmanne | Oct 2019 | #8 | |
fescuerescue | Oct 2019 | #13 | |
58Sunliner | Oct 2019 | #3 | |
Jake Stern | Oct 2019 | #6 | |
58Sunliner | Oct 2019 | #11 | |
Jake Stern | Oct 2019 | #12 | |
RhodeIslandOne | Oct 2019 | #14 | |
hmanne | Oct 2019 | #9 | |
58Sunliner | Oct 2019 | #10 |
Response to Jake Stern (Original post)
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 02:05 PM
comradebillyboy (9,770 posts)
1. Oberlin really screwed the pooch here. An apology to Gibson Bakery
was very much appropriate but Oberlin refused and now they are paying for their many mistakes. I read about this case a while back and Oberlin did the wrong thing every chance they got.
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Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #1)
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 02:18 PM
Jake Stern (3,143 posts)
2. That's all they asked for - an apology
Folks in these communities are getting seriously tired of students launching protests, many times with the enthusiastic support of college faculty and admin, at the drop of a hat.
What was most damaging was the actual break down of shoplifting calls to the police by race which showed that, contrary to the student's claims, Gibson's did not target POC. So to recap: Oberlin student gets caught trying to use fake ID to buy wine then tries to steal it. Employee chases after thief and restrains him. Thief's buddies proceed to beat the shit out of employee until arrested by police. Triggered students launch protest in support of thief including the involvement of OC administration which becomes effort to shut business down. But it's the fault of Gibson's according to Oberlin. |
Response to Jake Stern (Reply #2)
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 03:19 PM
Doremus (7,258 posts)
4. Proud history
So you're "...getting seriously tired of students launching protests, many times with the enthusiastic support of college faculty and admin, at the drop of a hat"? Sorry to hear that, but Oberlin College has a proud history of standing up for liberal causes going back to your grandparents, great-grandparents and probably g-g grandparents.
Just for starters: Oberlin's progressive history began during the antebellum period. In 1835 it became the first predominantly white collegiate institution to admit African American male students and two years later it opened its doors to all women, becoming the first coeducational college in the country. Sorry to hear folks are "getting seriously tired." They'll just have to pull themselves up by the bootstraps and get over it. |
Response to Doremus (Reply #4)
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 03:28 PM
aikoaiko (33,522 posts)
5. Sounds like they did that with the winning lawsuit.
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Response to Doremus (Reply #4)
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 04:34 PM
Jake Stern (3,143 posts)
7. So? Doesn't mean the town is on board with it
And they made their point through this award.
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Response to Doremus (Reply #4)
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 04:42 PM
hmanne (92 posts)
8. They do have a very proud history,
but in this case, they royally screwed the pooch and the jury recognized it as such and slapped them hard.
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Response to Doremus (Reply #4)
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 12:35 AM
fescuerescue (4,436 posts)
13. $31m will be a very nice bootstrap
Response to Jake Stern (Original post)
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 02:56 PM
58Sunliner (4,050 posts)
3. Why should the college suffer Michelle Malkin?
Response to 58Sunliner (Reply #3)
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 04:32 PM
Jake Stern (3,143 posts)
6. Oberlin is claiming to be a defender of free speech
But I have a feeling that is selective.
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Response to Jake Stern (Reply #6)
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 11:28 PM
58Sunliner (4,050 posts)
11. She is a propagandist. A college has a duty to be selective.
Response to 58Sunliner (Reply #11)
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 12:22 AM
Jake Stern (3,143 posts)
12. And calling a small local business "racist" without reason is not propaganda?
That's the among the most disgusting types there is
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Response to Jake Stern (Reply #12)
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 04:28 AM
RhodeIslandOne (5,042 posts)
14. Why are you conflating these issues?
Oberlin can be wrong about this lawsuit, but Fuck Idiot Michelle Malkin.
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Response to 58Sunliner (Reply #3)
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 04:43 PM
hmanne (92 posts)
9. Defenders of free speech and all that entails. nt.
Response to hmanne (Reply #9)
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 02:03 PM
58Sunliner (4,050 posts)