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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLike you, I wondered where the term, "throw under the bus" came from?
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Why Do We 'Throw Someone Under the Bus'?
Let's blame the British
What does it mean to throw someone under the bus? Well, for the extremely criminally minded, it may have the literal meaning of shoving a person under the carriage of a large motor vehicle. Yet given the relative prevalence of this expression (and the relative lack of such assaults), it seems safe to assume that there is a highly figurative meaning involved.
under the bus
No one is certain where the phrase "throw (somebody) under the bus"meaning to betray or sacrifice a person, particularly for the sake of ones own advancement, or as a means of safeguarding ones own interestscomes from. But there's probably enough evidence to throw British English under the bus.
And given that the words throw and under are part of the equation, it seems safe to assume that throwing someone under a bus is not a terribly pleasant thing to do to them. After all, when throw is encountered in a phrase, it often is in such senses as throw a punch, throw (something) in a persons face, or throw (ones) hands up in disgust. Under often plays a negative role as well, appearing in such turns of phrase as under the weather.
So no, to throw someone under the bus is not a nice thing to do. It may be defined as to betray or sacrifice a person, particularly for the sake of ones own advancement, or as a means of safeguarding ones own interests. Where and when does this colorful expression come from?
Throw under the bus became enormously popular during the 2008 presidential election, although it had a certain degree of prominence prior to that among sports journalists. When it began being used considerably more in the mid and late-2000s, there was a good deal of interest in the origins of the phrase, and so as a result the Internet is now replete with wrong information on this subject.
The origins of throw someone under the bus have been attributed to minor league baseball, Cyndi Lauper, the slang of used car salesmen, and various other improbable sources. As with so many colloquial expressions, we will likely never find its first use, but we do have information that points in in a possible direction.
The earliest written record we have of under the bus being used in this fashion comes in 1980, in reference to a British politician.
While the above use certainly has the placement of a person under a bus being used in a metaphorical fashion, it lacks the sense of betrayal that is very much a part of its current usage. That comes less than two years later, again in British politics.
It seems possible that the expression throw/push/shove someone under the bus comes from Britain in the late 1970s or early 1980s, especially when considering that there was already a similar under a bus expression in use there.
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Why Do We 'Throw Someone Under the Bus'?
Let's blame the British
What does it mean to throw someone under the bus? Well, for the extremely criminally minded, it may have the literal meaning of shoving a person under the carriage of a large motor vehicle. Yet given the relative prevalence of this expression (and the relative lack of such assaults), it seems safe to assume that there is a highly figurative meaning involved.
under the bus
No one is certain where the phrase "throw (somebody) under the bus"meaning to betray or sacrifice a person, particularly for the sake of ones own advancement, or as a means of safeguarding ones own interestscomes from. But there's probably enough evidence to throw British English under the bus.
And given that the words throw and under are part of the equation, it seems safe to assume that throwing someone under a bus is not a terribly pleasant thing to do to them. After all, when throw is encountered in a phrase, it often is in such senses as throw a punch, throw (something) in a persons face, or throw (ones) hands up in disgust. Under often plays a negative role as well, appearing in such turns of phrase as under the weather.
So no, to throw someone under the bus is not a nice thing to do. It may be defined as to betray or sacrifice a person, particularly for the sake of ones own advancement, or as a means of safeguarding ones own interests. Where and when does this colorful expression come from?
Throw under the bus became enormously popular during the 2008 presidential election, although it had a certain degree of prominence prior to that among sports journalists. When it began being used considerably more in the mid and late-2000s, there was a good deal of interest in the origins of the phrase, and so as a result the Internet is now replete with wrong information on this subject.
The origins of throw someone under the bus have been attributed to minor league baseball, Cyndi Lauper, the slang of used car salesmen, and various other improbable sources. As with so many colloquial expressions, we will likely never find its first use, but we do have information that points in in a possible direction.
The earliest written record we have of under the bus being used in this fashion comes in 1980, in reference to a British politician.
The reaction of the Right to the events of the last year have varied depending on where in the spectrum they stand. Some still pin their hopes on the under the bus theory which has Mr. Foot being forced by ill healthor just the pressures of the jobto give way to Mr. Healey before the next election.
-Elinor Goodman, Financial Times (London, Eng.), 10 Dec. 1980
While the above use certainly has the placement of a person under a bus being used in a metaphorical fashion, it lacks the sense of betrayal that is very much a part of its current usage. That comes less than two years later, again in British politics.
The Conservative benches listened to her in silence. She was in deep trouble and the lobbies hummed with the prospect of her departure. President Galtieri had pushed her under the bus which the gossips had said was the only means of her removal.
-Julian Critchley, The Times (London, Eng.), 21 June 1982
It seems possible that the expression throw/push/shove someone under the bus comes from Britain in the late 1970s or early 1980s, especially when considering that there was already a similar under a bus expression in use there.
There is an amusing little parlour game much favoured by politicians. It is called Lets kill the Leader, and, when played by Labour loyalists, it begins Supposing Harold Wilson were to go under a bus
-Hugh MacPherson, The Spectator (London, UK), 23 Jan. 1971
Tony Benn, the greying, pipe-smoking enfant terrible of the Left, is Denis Healeys arch-rival with the Labour Party. The two would be top contenders for the leadership if Prime Minister Jim Callaghan were, in the British phrase, to fall under a bus.
-M. B., _Barrons National Business and Financial Weekly (Boston, MA), 28 Aug. 1978
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Like you, I wondered where the term, "throw under the bus" came from? (Original Post)
Dennis Donovan
Oct 2019
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CaliforniaPeggy
(149,516 posts)1. Thanks for doing this research, my dear Dennis Donovan!
I too had wondered about the origin of this colorful phrase.........and now I'm not wondering as much any more!
Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)2. I knew where "jump the shark" came from...
...given I was an avid Happy Days viewer in my pre-teens . But not "thrown under the bus".
missingthebigdog
(1,233 posts)3. I had a Welcome Back, Kotter board game
back in the 70s. One of the cards, or maybe a space on the board itself, said something like theres a bus leaving in 10 minutes; try to be under it.