WTF does Putin have on Trump?

[milestogo]

It must be something huge, financial in character, and have happened years ago.

What I can't understand is how the thing Putin has on Trump has been kept secret for a matter of years.

[madaboutharry]

1. I think it is multiple things

involving both money and sex.

Trump has spent too much time in Russia and has too many Russian friends for it to be one thing.

[Iliyah]

2. You know what, probably

nothing. I've confirmed that t-rump is all about t-rump.

[sandensea]

3. Among other things:

[JoeOtterbein]

4. Everything. You name it; theft, treason, videos, money laundering, etc....

...how much time do you have?

[Eliot Rosewater]

5. Rump has lost every penny he has ever been given. He owes Putin approx $3 billion

[dflprincess]

18. And if not Putin then other Russian oligarchs

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and he's scard to death Vlad will tell them to call the loans in.

[Glimmer of Hope]

37. Yep. The Russian Oligarch co-signors.

[captain queeg]

6. I doubt whatever it is would illicit a similar response from a normal human

Trump is so totally messed up probably even Putin is wondering if he’s worth it.

[Lars39]

7. Why does it have to be blackmail or coercion?

Trump’s just trying to advance in the organization.

[Xipe Totec]

8. Something not very large

His mushroom of a penis and two raisins.

[StarfishSaver]

9. It's something outrageous enough to humiliate a man who seems incapable of shame.

[milestogo]

17. Yes, and it makes him grovel.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

21. EXCELLENT POINT, StarfishSaver.

Trump has NO shame. So whatever it is, it's something that no one could flip, forgive or forget. Whatever is is, trumpie is TERRIFIED of it ever becoming public.

[StarfishSaver]

23. Exactly

[Blue_true]

33. Likely Putin having information that Trump is broke.

The most humiliating thing for Trump, IMO, is to be shown to be a penniless incompetent who blew hundreds of millions in inheritance money. Putin likely knows how deep in debt Trump is and to whom, IMO. Just look at how Trump slips into a submissive posture in the presence of Putin.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

38. I don't believe that it's about money.

I think it's something far darker.

[milestogo]

59. Trump seems to have no shame over money or sex.

Or even killing people, for that matter. He simply has no shame, so its hard to imagine what makes him grovel before Putin and other dictators.

[renate]

47. That's SUCH a good point that I haven't seen made anywhere else

What could embarrass a creature incapable of shame?

At this point, it’s pretty clear that a pee tape would be good for about an hour’s worth of news and would just fade away by the next day. It’s clearly not a video of prostitutes peeing on a bed while Trump watches.

As with everything to do with this person, the imagination is simply not adequate to the task of coming up with what the truth must be.

[deek]

64. amazing choice of words! nt

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[tableturner]

10. Worse than that...MULTIPLE coercive forces from MULTIPLE countries will eventually be revealed!

[Stuart G]

11. Yes, I think Putin was the source of finances when all other sources dried up.

Whatever it is, I think it will come out. It will all come out, but as Pelosi said, "It will take time"

[donco]

12. tRump

barr,mcconnell,graham....????

[budkin]

13. I'm guessing child rape

12-13 year old girls.

[Pachamama]

20. +100000

I agree this is likely what it is

[Blue_true]

35. I don't think that would cause Trump to be fearful unless there is clear video

showing him in the act. If no video, he would just deny the crime, like he does now.

[Ligyron]

42. Yeah, unless they were boys being abused

They really wouldn't give a shit. Might even enhance his image w some of his base.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

56. I have to agree.

Republicans don’t give a crap about females; many of them actively hate us.

[imanamerican63]

14. Trumpland Moscow?

Adventure is adventure!

[RockRaven]

15. What is the worst thing you can think of that is consistent with Trump's public behavior?

Sexual assaults on trafficked minors fits that bill, IMO. Trump has been accused of sexual assault repeatedly, Trump's behavior towards underaged girls is well documented (Miss Teen Whatever pageants, talking about "I'll be dating her (a child) in 10 years," sexualized talk about his own daughters when they were minors), and Trump had his own trafficking business (Trump Models).

[MrsCheaplaugh]

60. Not to mention

the fact Jeff Epstein was his friend.

[Midnightwalk]

16. Nothing it's hero worship

Trump is in awe of powerful corrupt dictators. Erdogan is the latest.

Putin is in a class by himself. He might have something on republicans but he doesn’t need anything on trump.

[Alithea]

55. Exactly!

He's shameless, therefore not afraid of being outed. And when around Putin, he doesn't look afraid, he looks submissive. And when around Russian officials, like Lavrov or the ambassador, he looks like he craves to the club; the club of the "big bad boys".

He has the basic authoritarian reflex of understanding only overt power displays; of kissing upwards and kicking downwards. He can instinctively understand thugish force. In the same way that he simply can't understand intellectual nuance or compassion.

[Flaleftist]

19. A lot. Russia has been working him for years. nt

[mucifer]

22. question is what does putin have on the entire republican party??

[bdamomma]

25. big money

donations.

[bdamomma]

24. After watching

Active Measures you will learn alot. Putin (ex-KGB'er) is going to burn tRump. We are talking about the Russian mafia.

[milestogo]

28. What is Active Measures?

[MelissaB]

34. It's an excellent documentary.

Preview

Link to tweet

I can't remember if I watched it on Netflix or Amazon???

[diva77]

48. it can be rented on Amazon

[bdamomma]

49. I don't know if this is the documentary or just trailer

https://www.activemeasures.com/

[milestogo]

57. Well it points to the ways you can see it.

I will watch on Amazon Prime.

[WhiteTara]

26. mostly money laundering

in the past and in the present.

[wasupaloopa]

27. Putin can have him killed

[Blue_true]

36. I doubt that Putin can do that now given Trump's office.

The Secret Service is no play toy when doing it's job. Yes, you see rogue SS in movies, but I seriously doubt that Putin can get an agent close enough to Trump to harm Trump.

I would guess that Putin has ironclad proof that Trump has no money, or very little. In my thinking, Trump's worst nightmare would to be shown to only have a few million dollars of wealth, or be shown to be broke.

[Polybius]

62. He had enough to own his own jumbo jet

His 10 billion claim is silly, but so are claims of a few million. My guess is he's worth about 600 million to 1 billion.

[Blue_true]

63. He could be running a ponzi like scheme.

Or if he has laundered money for unsavory characters, he would have the allusion of wealth as long as he continued to launder the money without incident. He certainly would have a jet and mansions in such situations and would pay money to himself or companies that his clients own.

[bronxiteforever]

65. +1 Brilliant point. He fights like hell to hide his taxes

So one can provide an educated guess that he has substantially less money than he said he does. There has to be some bad bad stuff in his tax returns.

[DownFromTheMountain]

29. I have a theory, and the theory that it is...

Putin has threatened DJTs life directly. The deal might look like this: You will get all the drugs and whatever you need. You will do what i say, or i'll kill you. Out the window. Poison. Your handler is Melania. Conversation over.

[C_U_L8R]

30. It worse than anything we can imagine.

[Trenzalore]

31. Biggest probably money laundering for the Russian mob

Also there probably is a tape with prostitutes. Neither would dissuade the loyal Trump base.

[underpants]

32. She's smarter and has more experience

Trump has NO idea what he's doing.

[Takket]

39. has to be that putin could ruin him financially.....

drumpf has no shame so i don't think a pee tape would bother him or his followers, who would probably demand laws be passed requiring all women to pee on men if the pee tape was real......

[Grammy23]

40. I have to believe we'll find out eventually.

It may be worse than we could imagine. Or just really embarrassing for tRump — with iron clad proof. Whatever it is, he does not want anyone to know so he will fight tooth and nail. But it will be revealed. I have to believe that. Truth will overcome his mountain of lies.

[blogslut]

41. Trump is a money-launderer

That's it. That's what it's always been.

[smirkymonkey]

43. I think it has to do with the fact that Trump is heavily in debt to Russia.

And that he is probably broke. His biggest fear is probably the revelation that he is a pauper and owes billions to a hostile foreign nation. They have kept him afloat for years and if they were to expose him, the reputation that he has built his image upon would crumble under his feet.

[moondust]

44. Could be a lot.

According to this timeline, Dump first made contacts with Russians in 1986 and made his first trip to the USSR in 1987.

Russians started buying up Dump's properties in the U.S. in the 2000s (or before) after they had had some time in the 1990s/2000s to accumulate fortunes in the new Russian kleptocracy.

It's probably a given that (KGB agent) Putin wanted to know all about this Dump guy in the U.S. that his oligarch buddies were dealing with. He very well may have used those oligarchs and Russian intelligence to spy on Dump for years/decades. There could be all kinds of nasty stuff.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

45. a loan and polonium

[NCLefty]

46. It's almost certainly financial crimes. Real estate is rife with money laundering.

[VOX]

50. You can bet the treason began with sex and/or money, and it fanned out from there.

Trump’s pretty simple in thought and deed. He’s no “man of mystery,” and is easy to read.

I had no intention of making the above two sentences rhyme!

[RandySF]

51. Trump Tower Moscow

[Bradical79]

52. Probably lots of stuff

He liked young Russian women, and did a lot of buisiness with Russia. He regularly hung out with mobsters. So probably a smorgasbord of sex tapes and financial crimes.

[Joe941]

53. Trump just adores Putin. Trump aspires to be like Putin in every way.

He follows Putin of his own will.

[Cracklin Charlie]

54. Putin helped him steal an election.

Trump asked for and willingly accepted his help.

That may be enough.

Could be anything.

[milestogo]

58. But why was Putin interested in doing that in the first place?

Or was it just that he hated Hillary?

[relayerbob]

61. Laundering money that ended up

in various terror groups would be my guess. Creating said paper trail - real or fake -would not be that hard to do with a moron like 45. And I bet more than a few people have disappeared, ala Epstein

[shanti]

66. Shoot, what DOESN'T he have on him?

Total compromat.