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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhen the Republicans turn on Trump, it will happen all at once
Republicans, being the authoritarian-minded creatures that they are, are like a pack of hyenas. They will stick together behind the "Alpha" as long as they perceive the Alpha to be strong.
But as soon as the Alpha is visibly wounded and weak, they will destroy them in order to take the mantle.
Trump knows this. It is why he is calling McConnell 3 times a day, reportedly. As long as he can keep the pack together, he has a chance to survive this.
But McConnell's behavior the past few days is very telling. He's making sure there is daylight between him and Trump. He's hedging his bets.
Trump's biggest problem is that nobody really likes him or is loyal to him. Not really. They pretend, in order to gain favor, but they don't have any affection or loyalty to the man.
If things turn, they will turn in an instant. None of them will want to be the last one holding the bag.... a trickle will become a flood in the Senate in a very short period of time.
Watch.
SterlingPound
(428 posts)blood in the water and it will be a political feeding frenzy.
BigmanPigman
(55,137 posts)RockRaven
(19,375 posts)and never supported him.
calimary
(90,021 posts)I remember making a mental note about it. You couldnt find anyone whod admit theyd voted for Nixon. You couldnt pay somebody to say they voted for Nixon.
Well he got elected, though, didnt he? Lots and lots of votes! More than his opponent. WAY more! I think McGovern carried exactly one state. Gee, whered everybody go?
And they will find some way to blame this all on Democrats! "If only those libtards had won the election, this wouldn't have happened." "It's Democrats' fault he got elected in the first place." "He was never a Republican - he was a secret commie libtard."
SeattleVet
(5,903 posts)smb
(3,598 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)Kablooie
(19,107 posts)He's the one that will destroy any Republican who turns against Trump.
But if he decides to turn, anyone who decides to stay with Trump will be in danger.
I expect he tolerates Trump because Trump grabs all the spotlight which allows McConnell to get away with a lot of things that normally would bring a lot of scrutiny.
C Moon
(13,643 posts)lordsummerisle
(4,653 posts)looking forward to it.
Meadowoak
(6,606 posts)Mr. Ected
(9,714 posts)You got a big segment of the American people convinced that your fearless leader is the victim of the Deep State and liberals are behind it all. They'll snap if Trump goes down, but they'll snap first on the GOP leaders that succumbed to the imaginary DS.
stopdiggin
(15,463 posts)there are back room discussions going on right now? Trying to hammer our contingencies and a narrative that everyone can hide behind, when the water finally tops the flood gates.
probably sounds a bit like this: "Policy that we can support .. and character issues that we cannot. Many people serving honorably .. and with the best interests of the nation and it's people at heart."
calimary
(90,021 posts)Theyre swimming in flop sweat. Soon theyll be drowning in it.
SCantiGOP
(14,719 posts)I think their fawning obedience is less trying to gain favor and more fear that he will get some Magat to primary them.
In SC the only incumbent republican to lose a House seat in the past 5 elections was Mark Sanford, who criticized Trump and then lost his primary to an insane candidate who Trump promoted.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)If Romney, Collins, Gardner and a few others indicate they'll vote to convict, McConnell probably won't sweat it too much. But there could come a point when the dam really breaks and it becomes clear that they are better off in 2020 if Trump is removed from office.
Trump represents their best chance at keeping the White House, but that could change or cease to matter in the big picture. If Trump remaining in office means they'll lose their Senate majority, Republicans may dump him. One thing we know is that Republicans won't dump Trump because it's the right thing to do but because it's in their best interests.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)until he didn't and they pushed him out.
NCLefty
(3,678 posts)central scrutinizer
(12,654 posts)FM123
(10,372 posts)but I LOVE Galaxy Quest!
Hekate
(100,133 posts)I love Galaxy Quest
smb
(3,598 posts)...the RepubliCONs are sweating!
redqueen
(115,186 posts)long before it becomes public knowledge.
If there is one thing the GOP is good at, it's messaging. They'll get every duck lined up before marching them in front of mics and cameras.
awesomerwb1
(5,103 posts)Hekate
(100,133 posts)jeffreyi
(2,571 posts)certainot
(9,090 posts)it is amazing how much power 1500 coordinated radio stations have had for 30 years and how little credit that messaging dominator gets from the left
Duppers
(28,469 posts)This! This is what happened to my brother: a steady diet of a.m. radio while he made a living behind the wheel. He's now beyond hope, disgustingly brainwashed.
Change the ownership of these stations!!! Boycott their sponsors.
certainot
(9,090 posts)best value per protestor ever
those would be something different and get media. media would scare the crap out of republicans who scream "free speech!" because they depend heavily on those radio stations to get elected and obstruct and pass legislation and attack their opponents.
the community discussion would scare advertisers even if the uni didn't start looking for apolitical alternatives to broadcast sport.
republicans would freak out more and get more attention to it.
if one uni started the process of pulling support for rw radio others would follow. imagine schools like penn state, michigan, mich state, fla..... that's almost 50 limbaugh stations
at some point the advertising industry would get the message and have to start asking clients if they really wanted to support trump, global warming denial, etc - especially with artificial intelligence making it so easy to list advertisers without listening
sorry to hear about your bro
Duppers
(28,469 posts)ms liberty
(11,237 posts)pnwmom
(110,261 posts)They don't love him.
When they finally realize they can't handle him, all bets are off.
EveHammond13
(2,855 posts)"Republicans, being the authoritarian-minded creatures that they are, are like a pack of hyenas."
Whatthe_Firetruck
(610 posts)In the Lion King, Scar used the hyenas as his enforcers (with blatantly facist overtones), while scorning them. But when he was defeated by Simba and appealed to them for help, they turned on him.
One can only hope...
hay rick
(9,605 posts)The people that finance and own the party have put their support behind candidates who will listen to their "betters" and are willing to earnestly repeat talking points that they don't believe. Republican senators have been required to mouth empty phrases supporting and praising a man they secretly hold in contempt. When the time comes, they will turn on him without hesitation and without regret.
Midnight Writer
(25,410 posts)But i don't think they will turn.
I think they will brazen it out until Election Day. Even if they get voted out, there will be a blazing hot Lame Duck session.
lapfog_1
(31,904 posts)and with his brain washed (and not terribly bright to begin with) base and the propaganda news channels, that just isn't going to happen
Duppers
(28,469 posts)💯% right.
relayerbob
(7,428 posts)rusty quoin
(6,133 posts)the brainwashing in the late 80s.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Fingers crossed.
DeminPennswoods
(17,506 posts)Think your analogy is spot on.
Also, McConnell's highest priority is keeping his power in the Senate. If he senses the Senate is seriously in play for a Dem takeover because of Trump. Well, bye bye Donald, it was nice knowing you...
Mc Mike
(9,260 posts)MineralMan
(151,269 posts)Suddenly, he was told by Republicans that it was time to go - so he went.
That time is approaching for Trump, too.
It's called "cutting your losses."
Stuart G
(38,726 posts)When it gets down that low, Trump will leave because he will be told he "must" leave. You are correct.
... I don't know what that really is.. But there is a point, where he will be told to leave, and he will. Without support from the party, he is the "dead meat" that he appears to be.
ElementaryPenguin
(7,911 posts)louis-t
(24,618 posts)are being driven from their homes by drumpy's actions, they should turn on him. But they have selective hearing, so....
struggle4progress
(126,154 posts)Well, I certainly never supported him! In fact, I have always been one of his biggest not-supporters! I was not supporting him from almost before I ever heard of him, which was only a few minutes ago!"
BonnieJW
(3,124 posts)that the "alpha" isn't visibly wounded right now? My God, the man is ranting nonsense and he's doing things globally that have tremendous impact on thousands. I can see this maniac launching something horrendous. Hopefully, the military will keep him quiet and a doctor will keep him sedated.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,689 posts)I don't know of any other party in any other western democracy, that excluded their former President and VP from an election convention as did the Republicans in their post-Bush defeat convention. Neither Bush or Cheney were invited to speak. When the convention before, on the eve of Bush's second term, they were the featured speakers, along with their merry band of neo-cons. As soon as their record of starting a crippling depression, and the growing opposition to the Iraq invasion, started sinking in after they were defeated by Obama, they wanted nothing to do with them, for publicity sake.
Although Trump is an enigma. He will not go quietly into a painting studio to paint dogs as W has done. Or set up a foundation to help aids sufferers in Africa as the Clintons did, or build homes for the homeless as Carter has done. No, he will tweet twice as much, with even less restraint, with even wilder CTs. May even start his own Trump network and hire CT nuts like Alex Jones and others to have their own shows. He will not go quietly into the night.
gordianot
(15,772 posts)Severe cracks will appear when Rudy is indicted. Who got money from those 51 bank accounts?
DBoon
(24,987 posts)until he displays weakness.
That's because the republican worldview consists solely of the worship of power.
pbmus
(13,141 posts)YessirAtsaFact
(2,113 posts)Its all about the poll numbers and there are already a lot of people ready to ditch Trump.
Thats only going to get worse for the GOP. Trumps his own worst enemy now. He will continue to double down and follow his gut. Thats only appealing to about 1/3 of the voters.
Nitram
(27,749 posts)Blue_Tires
(57,596 posts)So I'm just going to proceed under the assumption that they WILL NOT turn on him no matter how bad it gets...