Matt Gaetz's stunt backfired

[StarfishSaver]

Pelosi and Schiff didn't take the bait and throw the Republicans in the briar patch by escalating the situation, Maetz and his people didn't get what they wanted - footage of them being arrested and hauled away - but instead, they look silly and desperate, the press is calling it a stunt, and now the situation looks like it's back to normal with the testimony about to continue and impeachment still very well on track.

And the world can see that Trump and his henchmen have NOTHING to fight back with other than theatrics.

Nicely done, Democrats - way to stay focused and not get thrown off your game by a bunch of two-bit nitwits.

[berni_mccoy]

1. I do agree this was handled well by the Democratic Leadership.

They know this stunt couldn't stop the investigation and it looks just like what it is: a stunt.

[kiri]

109. Confiscate the iphones; violating this secure area, they forfeit their rights to electronic devices

This rethug stunt should have been handled more forcefully. Confiscate the iphone of Gaetz, the cell phone of Gophmert, et al. Download all their emails, scrutinize all the files, and return them in a month or so.

By violating this secure area, they forfeit their rights to electronic devices.

[Farmer-Rick]

131. When I saw it on tv, I thought it was just another news conference.

If the media hadn't described the supposed storming, I would have just saw it as a boring standing around a podium press conference from useless RepubliCONS.

[JHB]

2. There does need to be follow-up, though

The ones who brought phones and other devices into the room violated security protocols, and potentially committed crimes, possibly felonies, depending on the law.

Now that the photo-op flopped, what wll be the concrete, if lower-key, follow up on them for these actions?

[Mike 03]

14. Agree.

It was also very unfair to the witness, who is probably exhausted. It's three thirty PM. These depositions have been running around nine or ten hours apiece.

[CloudWatcher]

40. Security needs to be tightened

I'd like to know how they got through the doors. They could/should have been stopped before getting to the meeting room. Clearly they had no right to be there, it "should" have been impossible for them to get to that room without violence against the Capitol Police.

[AtheistCrusader]

53. Electronic locks, and a 140 decibel PA system the chairman can activate with Louis Jordan's

'Keep on knocking but you can't come in' on repeat, outside the doors.

[crickets]

47. Absolutely.

The security ramifications alone need to be addressed. No one wants to feed their desire for hullabaloo, but there should be consequences.

[Hangingon]

59. We should be careful. I am afraid the follow thru will come the next time we ha the WH

The Republican will institute impeachment process a month after swearing in. They will use these rules.

[JHB]

62. I'm taliking about holding House memebers accountable for violation of established security rule...

...some of which may be crimes.

Are we going to be doing that?

[47of74]

79. I think that bar complaints are in order for any attorneys that participated in the stunt.

Any attorney that participated in that stunt should be disbarred.

[Control-Z]

3. Two-bit nitwits!

I have to remember that combination. It's perfectly descriptive for that group. Ha!

[Gothmog]

4. This stunt reminds me of the 2000 Brooks Brothers riot

Link to tweet

[Eliot Rosewater]

5. That is what I was trying to find on youtube.

exact same thing

Gee, when you think of it, turns out republicans cheat in every election, no exceptions.

If you had to point to the one problem facing the human race, they are it.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

27. Most of the time they can't win unless they cheat.

[calimary]

124. THIS, by Jove. For real. They can't win unless they cheat.

[Johnny2X2X]

22. Very fine people

Look like the thugs yelling “Jews will not replace us.” In Charlottesville.

[RGinNJ]

75. Crooks Brothers is now trending.

[Dennis Donovan]

6. Great encapsulation...

[cilla4progress]

7. Agree!

Grown-ups in the room.

FINALLY the Dems running on all cylinders!

[badseedboy]

8. yet another great day to be a Democrat

Our leadership is brilliant, truly always the adults in any room.

[riversedge]

51. well said.

[badseedboy]

56. thank you!

[exboyfil]

9. Censure by the House

Embarrass Kevin McCarthy in public. Read the names of every GOP member that was allowed into the hearing on the floor. Ask him why they appear to not meet the representative demands of the rest of your House membership.

[malaise]

19. This is a great idea

Rec

[MontanaMama]

32. +1

This!!

[dalton99a]

39. +1. There must be consequences for what they did today.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

60. Dalton! Consequences not in our repertoire.

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[StarfishSaver]

63. LOL

[Laura PourMeADrink]

115. Peter Daou

Link to tweet

?s=20

[StarfishSaver]

119. Even bigger LOL

[Laura PourMeADrink]

122. Clinton advisor

[scheming daemons]

10. I agree.. but they should face punishment *AFTER* the fact.

Taking electronic devices into a SCIF is a big no-no.

They need to face some punishment.

[Salviati]

15. Absolutely

I'm not sure how security clearances work at that level, I imagine that anyone elected to congress needs at least some level to just do their job, but anyone who participated in this stunt who has any higher level of security clearance should definitely lose it.

[Totally Tunsie]

99. Members of Congress or the Senate, the VP, and the President

do not require security clearances.

[Salviati]

105. Then any of the morons that pulled this stunt...

.. That have one, should lose it. And all of them should be prevented from getting one in the future.

[True Blue American]

129. No, but an expert said they would never be able

To get a Security clearance in the future.

Trump or Jared could pass a real Security clearance.

[AllyCat]

132. Woman on 1A yesterday says this means these not-wits

Will NEVER get the security clearances they need to sit in that room.

[StarfishSaver]

134. As long as they're in Congress, they can have access to classified material

[AllyCat]

136. She said there is a different level of security clearance for the 3 committees'

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Members to be in a SCIF room. They will not be able to get those clearances any more. ??

[StarfishSaver]

138. I believe Members all have access to the highest level of classified information

[Peacetrain]

11. They handled it right for the moment...but there has to be a consequence for witness intimidation

[Iliyah]

12. Agreed!

I read different sites and many were angry that the Democrats were doing nothing, and calling them "weak". Probably some were bots. I'm glad the Democrats consulted with the proper individuals. And yes indeed, it did backfire.

A legitimate President would NOT have suggested and or agreed to this.

[aggiesal]

44. Bloomberg is reporting the Pendejo45 knew and approved in advance ...

Link to tweet

https://t.co/NrvnDFEVvM

This tweet has a link to the Bloomberg article, unfortunately it is behind a pay wall.
If anyone knows how to retrieve this article, please post, if possible.

[wryter2000]

69. Pendejo45

[aggiesal]

101. I didn't want to call him ...

Idiot, because I already call Bush II, GW McIdiot.

So the next best name is obviously Pendejo.
And since I know how Pendejo45 likes us south-of-the-border types,
I'm sure he really like this nickname.

[CloudWatcher]

70. Reichstag fire

Trump is probably pissed that they forgot matches.

[EleanorR]

13. They engage in this "circus-like behavior" bc they can't defend "president's egregious misconduct

Link to tweet

[2naSalit]

16. And they have all now

set themselves up for ethics violations and security breach and censure... nice work there sportzfanz.

[StarfishSaver]

17. Yep. And the impeachment train is still rolling along

Geniuses ...

[2naSalit]

21. Indeed.

And as the trains keeps a rolling, they will keep coming up with ignorant crap. They need to be held accountable too.

[bronxiteforever]

28. Picking up speed too!

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[FrankBooth]

18. Agree

This was a political stunt that has no real-world ramifications. No reason to arrest and give them video to run on FOX for the next two years. This now justifies armed police to monitor the next SCIF meeting so they can't pull this BS again. And Dems can also now justifiably investigate the stunt itself and lay down punishment in accordance with House rules. This showboating will be a big hit with their Faux News fanbase, but will do nothing to move the people they need to move - Independents.

[asiliveandbreathe]

20. When the resolution to censure is put forth for all republicans involved

surely it will pass...stupid is as stupid does....

Thank you Democratic leaders....

[Atticus]

23. You may be right. On the other hand, I believe a lot of good Democrats see this as

another instance of bringing a butter knife to a gun fight. The objective of Gaetz MAY have been (I have no idea what motivates this damaged child) simply to stop the testimony of Ms Cooper and get their ridiculous "process objection" repeated a gazillion times on TV. If so, "Mission Accomplished!"

As I said above, you may be correct and I hope you are. But, I still have too much "wrong side of the tracks" in me to say I would not have enjoyed seeing Matt Gaetz "cuffed and stuffed".

[StarfishSaver]

26. Some good Democrat may see it that way, but that's not a reason for the Democratic leadership

to do anything stupid just to appease people who don't understand the bigger picture.

And yes, seeing Gaetz dragged out of their in handcuffs would have brought great enjoyment - but it would have been fleeting and, in the long run, worked more to our benefit than his. I can wait.

[Atticus]

30. "---in the long run, worked more to his benefit than ours." Once again, you may be right. nt

[StarfishSaver]

31. LOL - that was a typo - corrected

I meant it the other way around. It worked much more to our benefit than to his.

In two weeks, what do you think the benefit to Trump and Gaetz from today's incident will prove to have been?

[Atticus]

43. I guess that depends, at least in part, on how many similar lawless acts go unanswered in the

next two weeks. Now, we can plausibly claim to be "the adults in the room". If today's stunt is repeated without serious consequences, we could plausibly be seen as "doormats".

I sincerely hope your assessment proves to be correct.

[StarfishSaver]

52. I don't care if anyone sees us as "doormats" if, in the end, we successfully impeach him

I'm glad the leadership is worrying less about what people think of and call them - since someone's going to snark and whine about them no matter what they do - and are staying focused on the goal.

[Atticus]

64. Do you not think that "what people think" of Democrats impacts how many independents and even

"fair weather Democrats" show up at the polls on election day?

If intellect determines electoral outcomes, how did Trump get elected?

[StarfishSaver]

66. By election day, no one will remember or care whether Pelosi had Gaetz arrested today

They will care if the Democrats put together a solid case of impeachment against Trump and how effectively they proved his criminality and unfitness for office.

And I think anyone who says they won't vote for Democrats because they're think we're "doormats" is full of shish. They weren't going to vote for Democrats anyway and are just making up excuses.

[Atticus]

76. As I stated above, if we are just considering today, I think you are right. But,

if, as I also stated above, there are several more incidents where these childish thugs are permitted to break all the rules without consequence, that will, in my opinion, cost us votes; votes that we might have gotten "but for" the perception---"what people think"---that we are "weak".

And, votes cast by people who are "full of shish" count just as much as those cast by the smartest, best informed and most morally motivated among us.

Thanks for your involvement and your enthusiasm.

[StarfishSaver]

83. If it if

we can always make all kinds of dire predictions based on any number of series of "ifs."

And I think you're missing my point about the people who are full of shish. They're full of it because they don't intend to vote for Democrats anyway, no matter what we do, but claim say it's something we did or didn't do that makes them vote or not vote the way they do. I'm kind of like the people who claimed they would be so upset if the Democrats didn't try to impeach Trump that they wouldn't vote or vote third party, thereby letting Trump win reelection. Bullsh!t.

So worrying about whether these people think we're "doormats" or adjusting our behavior to prevent them from saying we are is a fool's game since what we do or don't do has absolutely nothing to do with how they vote.

[Atticus]

98. Have a wonderful evening. nt

[StarfishSaver]

106. You, too!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

88. Absolutely think it affects our image. Just letting things slide.

Too complicated to hold Lewandowski in contempt...last I heard they were investigating how to do it. Too much caution and time causes people to forget about the crime. And too much time mitigates the severity of the act itself.

But I think the biggest segment that is totally overlooked is the effect this has on 1/2 of our party. Allowing him and GOP to get away with their antics without even a slap in the wrist will reduce enthusiasm.

Hopefully we will get to articles asap. That will help. Although we don't have an election protection law passed. This will curb enthusiasm as well.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

89. Well here you go!!!! Homeland security committee doing something!!

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212615171

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

34. Gaetz and his fellow idiots probably *wanted* to be arrested

and hauled off by the Capitol police. They'd have used the photos as "proof" that the Dems are oppressing them and treating them unfairly, and they'd probably also have claimed the Dems were violating the Speech or Debate Clause in the Constitution. Schiff handled the situation perfectly. If, later on, someone wants them prosecuted for witness intimidation and violating SCIF rules, that's something else.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

116. That is exactly what happened..some wanted to be arrested per news account

[Corgigal]

24. Did his owner

at least throw him a milk bone?

So sad.

[MontanaMama]

36. No milk bone...

but he got his belly scratched.

[crickets]

50. Bad dog! No biscuit! nt

[mbusby]

58. Close but...

...no banana.

[CatWoman]

25. reminds me of the infamous "Let's Roll"

Meet the House Republican Who Compared Himself to the Flight 93 Heroes

When this chapter of the Republican Party’s descent into radicalism is written, the representative quote may go not to Ted Cruz, who managed to say little memorable in his 21-hour talkathon, but to his fellow Texan, Rep. John Culberson. It was Culberson, a seven-term member from Houston, who, recounting how House Republicans voted Saturday to make a delay of Obamacare a condition for funding the government, declared, “The whole room: ‘Let’s vote!’ I said, like 9/11, ‘let’s roll!’”

https://newrepublic.com/article/114924/meet-john-culberson-house-republican-who-said-lets-roll

[grantcart]

126. McSally shouted "Let's get this the fuck done" and never won an election after

[George II]

29. One thing that may have been accomplished, though, is that Contempt of Congress can be added...

...to the charges against trump, since he knew in advance and encouraged the republican congressmen today.

[StarfishSaver]

35. Yep.

Keep on throwing those logs on the impeachment process, genius ...

[MontanaMama]

38. Your post made me think of this

and made me laugh out loud!

[Kurt V.]

33. not that im surprised but the thing was quite surreal.

[CanonRay]

37. Once again the GOP shows their utter disregard for laws

and democratic institutions

[greymattermom]

41. Repair of the SCIF has to cost something.

Maybe they can be filled for it.

[BobTheSubgenius]

42. In fairness, there's a good reason why it blew up in his face.

He's a fucking imbecile. What an idiotic stunt. that history will view very dimly, I hope.

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

45. I work with someone who was born and raised in Africa.

he said, 'all this outrage makes the President look guilty. If he has nothing to hid, why do all this stuff?' He also commented on how other countries perceive the US and since you know who took office, the perception is going downhill...…..

[moonseller66]

46. They want to expose the "secret meetings" of Democrats...

...by getting together with other republicans in a secret meeting to attack the SCIF!

Seems 45 isn't necessarily the lowest IQ on the Republican Aptitude Test!

[abqtommy]

48. Is it true that Democratic staffers pissed on the reTHUGS' pizza when it was delivered?

Asking for a friend...

[NCjack]

142. Who knows what happened to those pizzas. The prep and delivery

folks knew who they were for.

[NoMoreRepugs]

49. The specter of people like Joe McCarthy comes to mind when

I see ridiculous stunts like this from Rethugs.... as for the Dems response.... pure Elijah Cummings.

We win.

[OAITW r.2.0]

54. They are on the wrong side of history.

People are talking about the impeachment and a clear majority are in favor and I think another 10-15% upside with neutral/anti-Impeachment citizens that are only beginning to get up to speed with what the Trump Republican Party, or as I am increasing refering to as the Organized Crime USA Syndicate is doing,,,,an end around on the Constitution and democracy with the intent to join the global domination plan of Head Mobster, Vlad Putin

[Stinky The Clown]

55. Masterful Pelosi does it again.

[JAD]

57. Banana Republicans!

Courtesy of Gnat Gaetz and trump.

[yellowcanine]

61. Donald Trump and Matt Gaetz's stunt backfired.

There, I fixed it. Trump collaborated with the House Republicans to do this. Add Obstruction of Justice and Witness Intimidation to the Impeachment counts.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142385253

Trump Backed GOP Plan to Protest Inquiry: Impeachment Update


Source: Bloomberg

Trump had advance knowledge and supported a protest by Republicans who told him they planned to barge into a secure hearing room on Capitol Hill where Democrats are holding impeachment testimonies, according to four people familiar with the matter.

Trump on Tuesday met with about 30 House Republicans at the White House to talk about the situation in Syria and the impeachment inquiry. During a nearly two-hour meeting, which focused mostly on the impeachment inquiry, lawmakers shared their plans to storm into the secure room, the people said. Trump supported the action, saying he wanted the transcripts released because they will exonerate him, the people said.

About two dozen GOP House members occupied the secure hearing room early Wednesday, delaying a scheduled deposition."

[Perseus]

65. Gaetz is the most idiotic person in Congress, I bet his head sounds like a maraca when he walks

his pea brain has to rattle. Florida, please wake up and stop electing these idiot crooks

[DENVERPOPS]

81. Of course

Of course he came from florida, that says it all.....If he has a brain, it would roll around in his skull like a BB in a dump truck.
Where does Florida continually get these MFers...??????

[bluecollar2]

92. They move there from Texas?...n/t

[catrose]

107. touche (supposed to have an accent, but DU won't let me)

[DENVERPOPS]

110. I am an actual "blue collar" also, BC2

good one!

[Bernardo de La Paz]

128. I'm leaning toward the rocks hypothesis. . . . nt

[Nitram]

67. It's so nice when adults are in charge for a change.

[Mustellus]

68. Anyone have a list.....

.. of which morons participated? I'd hate to blame anyone with enough sense to stay out of it. There's a bit of hope for any with that much common sense.....

[samnsara]

71. they handled it better than I would have

[CaptainTruth]

72. Agreed. Now there are stories about how Republicans compromised national security...

...by bringing unsecure devices into the SCIF, instead of stories about how Democrats took some drastic action.

Better to have the focus on how reckless Republicans were, instead of focusing on what Democrats did in reaction to it.

[Cousin Dupree]

73. Well said, Starfish!

[mcar]

74. Anything headed up by Gaetz*

is doomed to failure.

*May be even stupider than Louie Gohmert.

[lanlady]

77. Their phones and other electronics should have been seized by security personnel

and wiped IMMEDIATELY.

That's how it's done when you violate SCIF rules. And since they intended to disseminate information from inside a SCIF, they ought to face federal charges.

[Sherman A1]

87. Agreed

They should indeed face any charges that might apply.

[Thekaspervote]

78. Big thank you to Adam Schiff and the other dem leaders at the forefront of these important hearings

[TruthAlwaysWins]

80. Does anyone have a list

of the two-bit nitwits that showed up for this stunt? At the least, I'd like to donate to their opposition's election campaign.

[Fiendish Thingy]

82. ...and Pelosi can still move to censure, fine, etc... Nt

[Me.]

84. Can't Wait To See What Brian Williams' Spin Will be On This

[mountain grammy]

85. while I may be screaming, lock them up

I appreciate Schiff and his coolness.. He is just so fucking cool. Thank you, California, for him and Nancy.

[yardwork]

86. Pelosi knows what she's doing. This isn't her first rodeo.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

90. People have charged into a meeting uninvited before?

Guess I missed that

[paleotn]

91. Didn't work. Now they look stupid.

Well...stupider than they normally look. Their strategic thinking is not strong.

[bdamomma]

93. I guess

in this instance we have to remain focused. Let's keep them off balance.

[Initech]

94. Let them eat pizza!

[BlancheSplanchnik]

95. 👏🏾

So sick of the “Freedumb Caucus” , So sick of the GOPee

[Blue Owl]

96. A-womp a-womp for the swamp swamp

n/t

[keithbvadu2]

97. So Gaetz and fellows will support outsiders barging into their committees?

So Gaetz and fellows will support outsiders barging into their committees?

[Arazi]

100. I don't think we know the end of this story yet

Will there be a penalty for those who did this?

Will those who brought phones into the SCIF face any repercussions?

How do Dems plan to prevent this from happening again?

Is this a sneak peek into future lawlessness as #Traitor becomes more exposed for his crimes?

If they get away with this, the next "stunt" will be more extreme.

I'm not at all confident this stunt backfired and am wary of any victory dance

[Mc Mike]

102. You can tell how innocent twitler is, by how desperate his flunkies are to keep anything

he's doing from being scrutized.

[Gothmog]

103. Pelosi and Schiff handled this stunt well

[pangaia]

104. they accomplished exactly what they wanted.. they got away with it...

just the next escalation...

what's next?

[StarfishSaver]

108. They didn't get away with anything

Other than making fools of themselves.

Laura Cooper testified anyway, impeachment is well underway, people are laughing at them and they demonstrated that they have no defense other than to act like a bunch of damned fools.

[pangaia]

112. I sure hope you are right and I am wrong..

[StarfishSaver]

113. Me, too!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

117. You are likely not wrong. They will probably get away with it.

[Arazi]

111. Agreed. Who knows the intimidation effect on Cooper? They flexed their muscle

And had a successful power play. They weren't ejected. They left on their own terms, defiling the SCIF with their pizza party and cell phone videos.

Their next bit of lawlessness will be even more drastic. I do not believe we've seen the end of this story, just the beginning

[pangaia]

114. That is still my take until we see otherwise.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

118. Yup

[StarfishSaver]

121. I doubt a bunch of yahoo Congressman behaving like frat boys intimidated her in the least

That "we can't get into the keg party" temper tantrum was the very embodiment of NOT a power play.

I'm sure she's just fine and her testimony was just as compelling and complete as it would have been prior to the pizza party.

[Progressive Jones]

120. Unruly, loutish rabble. Typical Trump supporters. nt

[Ellipsis]

123. All these douche bags need to be kicked out of office.

Sorry for the reference. But they are and they should be.

[Judi Lynn]

125. They looked far too old to be acting so juvenile.

What they did was the equivalent of wetting themselves while throwing tantrums.

At least they thought to call out for pizza which they consumed in order to keep up their strength during those 5 grueling hours of milling around, breaking wind, and wandering off, leaving open boxes and pizza crusts all over the place for those who work to clean up.

[rrmtns]

127. They're trying to frame the narrative. I was reading Taylor's...

....Wikipedia page and could not stand the lack of context. So I edited it to have context. I've bolded what I added:



Taylor–Sondland texts
Taylor arrived in Ukraine a month after the abrupt ousting of Ambassador Yovanovitch and the inauguration of the country's new president Volodymyr Zelensky. But following President Donald Trump's phone call with the new Ukranian president, Taylor questioned Trump's motivation in a text to Gordon Sondland, the United States Ambassador to the European Union: "Are we now saying that security assistance and WH meeting are conditioned on investigations?" Sondland told him to phone.

On October 3, 2019, it was revealed that Taylor had expressed, in text messages, concern that President Trump may have withheld aid to Ukraine unless they investigated two right-wing conspiracy theories. One, about alleged corruption in Ukraine involving former Vice President Joe Biden. The other, an attempt to deflect from the US intelligence communities' consensus determination that Russia hacked the DNC and interfered with the 2016 presidential election, by suggesting without evidence, that the DNC is hiding the hacked server in the Ukraine. The server conspiracy, is derived from, and in support of a third right-wing conspiracy theory. This one suggests that former DNC employee Seth Rich actually leaked the DNC emails and that Hillary Clinton had him murdered for it.

Implicit through Taylor's testimony is that Trump's goal in withholding the congressionally mandated military aid to Ukraine was to extort newly inaugurated president of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelensky, into announcing an investigation into the theory related to Biden in a primetime American television interview. At the time, and through much of the proceeding nascent Democratic Party Presidential Primary Election season, Biden was the leading candidate, and seemed likely to be the Democratic Party challenger to Trump in the 2020 United States Presidential Election. Additional incentive was provided for Ukraine to do as Trump and Guliani suggested, by implying that Zelensky would get a state visit to the White House if he complied.

According to transcripts released by the house impeachment probe, Taylor on September 9, 2019, at 12:47:11 AM texted, "I think it's crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign." On October 22, 2019 Taylor's opening statement also explained that Sondland required that Zelensky make public statements announcing an investigation, forcing him to conduct one, before the US released the allocated military aid. Taylor said he feared that Trump would withhold the military aid anyway, handing Moscow everything it wanted from the betrayal, texting Sondland that his "nightmare is that they the Ukrainians give the interview and don't get the security assistance. The Russians love it. (And I quit.)."


How's that for context?

[gopiscrap]

141. welcome to DU

[greymattermom]

130. Start a rumor that the cell phone in SCIF thing works both ways.

And that their phone microphones are on and transmitting. Let them all get new phones. At least it's something.

[Texin]

133. Is a SCIF like the one in the House like the Situation Room in the WH?

That room is impervious to foreign (and presumably domestic) surveillance equipment. Microwave and radio waves are blocked and the room is scanned for bugs on a daily basis. If that is the case, how would a cell phone even be operable in a room such as that? I know the phone can record and video, but it would seem that they would be unable to receive a signal. Does anyone know more about this than me? Presumably, the designers of such a security facility would have neutralized the effectiveness of a cell device.

[StarfishSaver]

135. The Situation Room is probably more secure

But people aren't allowed to bring electronic devices in there either (but of you're Omarosa meeting with the Chief of Staff, you do it anyway ...)

The issue is not only the possibility of broadcasting from the room but an electronic device capturing something in the room and then being taken back out.

[krawhitham]

137. "didn't take the bait" BAIT?, you mean they broke the law and we did nothing about it?

You have to break the law for 2.5 years before the house Dems will do anything about it

[StarfishSaver]

139. What law did they break and what "something" should Congress have done about it yesterday?

And how would that have advanced impeachment in any way?

[defacto7]

140. I imagine security will search and scan for bugs before

they use that room again. Those things don't need transmitters and use the whole table for a driver. They're retrieved later.

I think Pelosi should have ordered in pizza for the whole gang and had it delivered to them while they were there compliments of The Democrats. Now that would make the reps look foolish and the Dems in complete control. LOL

[corbettkroehler]

143. George Takei Called It Witness Tampering And I Concur

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212617372

[StarfishSaver]

144. It still backfired

[Cetacea]

145. Yup, though it reeks of a Roger Stone stunt

Anyone have any updates on him?