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Thu Oct 24, 2019, 08:33 PM

How many times can chuck Rosenberg be fooled ?

I generally appreciate his analysis. He is often on Rachel or other MSNBC shows. Back when Barr was considered for ag he was one of the former justice official telling us that Barr had a very good reputation, he was a straight arrow, etc..
He later had to admit he was wrong. Now, the same song is being heard from him about John Durham, the prosecutor that barr put in charge to investigate the Russian investigation.
I trust John Durham, respect him, etc..
You would think Rosenberg would have realized by now that Trump corrupts everybody.

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Reply How many times can chuck Rosenberg be fooled ? (Original post)
drray23 Oct 2019 OP
Garrett78 Oct 2019 #1
dem4decades Oct 2019 #2
Me. Oct 2019 #3
drray23 Oct 2019 #6
LenaBaby61 Oct 2019 #8
The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2019 #4
Pachamama Oct 2019 #29
gab13by13 Oct 2019 #5
The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2019 #12
DeminPennswoods Oct 2019 #7
drray23 Oct 2019 #10
DeminPennswoods Oct 2019 #11
The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2019 #14
DeminPennswoods Oct 2019 #18
StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #17
DeminPennswoods Oct 2019 #19
StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #20
The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2019 #21
DeminPennswoods Oct 2019 #32
Firestorm49 Oct 2019 #9
ritapria Oct 2019 #13
BigmanPigman Oct 2019 #15
Jarqui Oct 2019 #16
dewsgirl Oct 2019 #22
ooky Oct 2019 #23
dawg day Oct 2019 #24
NCLefty Oct 2019 #25
not_the_one Oct 2019 #26
triron Oct 2019 #27
Pachamama Oct 2019 #30
rockfordfile Oct 2019 #28
Pachamama Oct 2019 #31

Response to drray23 (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 08:37 PM

1. Barr has always been a right wing ideologue who thinks executive power knows no bounds.

Some are in denial about or ignorant of Barr's history.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 08:38 PM

2. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice and you'll never be fooled again.

Or whatever W said.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 08:38 PM

3. I Know

How can he be so naive?

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Response to Me. (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 08:40 PM

6. I think it's because he still plays by the old rules

In trump's era old rules by which people used to behave no longer apply.

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Response to Me. (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 08:43 PM

8. I like Chuck a lot.

And he's a very honorable person from all I know about him.

But he's uber-naive beyond belief at times.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 08:39 PM

4. Honest people often have trouble believing other people are dishonest.

I think Rosenberg is a straight arrow who, when he was in the DoJ, worked with other people who seemed to be straight arrows, too. Unfortunately, some of them (like Barr) were either already bad but pretended to be "institutionalists," or who weren't bad but became corrupted by working for Trump (like Rosenstein and maybe Durham). Comey said Trump eats people's souls a bit at a time if they are weak.

I wonder if Barr will try to prosecute Mueller?

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #4)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 02:49 AM

29. +10000

Exactly

I think Barr (as directed by Trump) plans to try to prosecute Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Mueller.....Hillary Clinton....

I think we haven't even begun to see what Trump's soul eating will produce....

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 08:40 PM

5. He helped cover up Iran/Contra

why would we think he is an honest broker?

These traitors make me physically sick.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 08:53 PM

12. Barr did; but Rosenberg was not involved in Iran-Contra.

He would have been only in his early 20s at the time of the Iran Contra scandal in the early '80s and didn't get his law degree until 1990. Some of the cases he did handle included the prosecution of Michael Vick for dog-fighting, and Zacharias Moussaoui for his participation in the 9/11 conspiracy, as well as child pornography prosecutions. He was the Chief of Staff to the FBI director during the Obama administration.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 08:40 PM

7. I'm sorry, but he is awful

Honestly, he could sell his delivery style as a sleep aid.

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Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 08:44 PM

10. Not everything has to be about theatrics.

I would expect an old school prosecutor like him would indeed be measured and sober. What bothers me is that he cant seem to be able to see that in the era of Trump, those that work for him are unlikely to be straight arrows.

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Response to drray23 (Reply #10)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 08:51 PM

11. Rosenberg makes measured and sober look like a party.

If I was on a jury in a case he was prosecuting, his delivery would annoy the heck out of me.

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Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 08:54 PM

14. I like him. I get tired of all the ranting and hair-on-fire stuff that

so many other talking heads get into. He's measured and careful and sensible and he knows the law. Those are good things if you ask me.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #14)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 08:58 PM

18. IMO, all the legal analysts are that.

I find Rosenberg cloying, but ymmv.

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Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 08:58 PM

17. It's unfortunate that we judge people on how exciting they are instead of their

knowledge and substance. I'm tired of watching people ranting on television and appreciate listening to thoughtful people discuss issues as if we're intelligent.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #17)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 09:07 PM

19. He doesn't say anything any different than any other MSNBC legal analyst

His delivery annoys me. I hit the mute bottom or change channels whenever he's giving yet another slow, deliberate reponse to whatever he's asked.

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Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #19)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 09:10 PM

20. Actually, he does.

But how would you know if you turn him off before he says anything?

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Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #19)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 09:31 PM

21. If you mute or change channels when he comes on, how do you know

whether he's saying anything different? In fact, he does. He is one of the best of the talking heads at explaining legal concepts and procedures in a way that can be easily understood by people who aren't lawyers. I'm sorry he isn't wearing a party hat and a clown nose when he does it.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #21)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 06:50 AM

32. You like him, fine

I find his "could be this, could be that" talking style highly annoying. It is painful to my ears. I prefer analysts who can make a point succinctly without being verbose.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 08:43 PM

9. Don't forget, he's Republican.

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Response to Firestorm49 (Reply #9)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 08:54 PM

13. All Reoublican Prosecutors Can go to Hell

They are fulsomely praised as "straights shooters " and turn out to be either corrupt or weak as a feather ...Until proven otherwise , I'm expecting the worst

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 08:55 PM

15. I was thinking the same thing when I just heard him

I also remembered that attorney Joyce Vance (she is often on Rachel Maddow) said the same thing about Barr. He sure conned a lot of smart people. Maybe they are too close to see the real picture, the objective picture.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 08:56 PM

16. The Russians are lurking. They may have Kompromat on Durham

Don't mean to be a conspiracy theorist but that is what seems to have happened to Lindsey Graham and appears to have happened to AG Barr.

That is what these sinister people do.

To the Ukraine President "Do this dirty deed for us to get $400 mil in defense $ or Vlad Putin gets your country!!"

They're probably looking for people in the intelligence community they can blackmail or bribe to lie.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 10:02 PM

22. I cringed when he said that.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 10:04 PM

23. That was my very first thought when he said that. nt

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 10:50 PM

24. He mentioned some "investigation" where Durham slowed things down...

Maybe that's what he's doing? I wish?

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 11:01 PM

25. Old school mindset in a new school world. See: Mueller.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 11:01 PM

26. Anyone selected by the turd, is also a turd.

These Pollyanna politicians who have nothing but respect for someone just tapped by the turd need to buy a clue or phone a friend. The audience ALREADY knows the score of these sycophants.

The ONLY reason the turd would tap ANYONE is because they are "flexible", who will obediently do what they are told to do, regardless of legality. THAT is why he picked them.

Like everyone else has said, repeatedly, everything (and everyone) that the turd touches turns to shit.



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Response to not_the_one (Reply #26)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 11:08 PM

27. Likely.

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Response to not_the_one (Reply #26)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 02:53 AM

30. I disagree with this statement and reasoning completely - Take Bill Taylor for example

Under your argument, Bill Taylor who was chosen by Mike Pompeo (who was chosen by the Turd) would be shit.

Bill Taylor is not shit.

I think the assumption that because Barr tapped Durham makes him shit is a completely incorrect one.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 12:19 AM

28. Why does Maddow continue to have thsi guy on? knowing all of the BS

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Response to rockfordfile (Reply #28)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 02:54 AM

31. Chuck Rosenberg is a smart attorney and very knowledgeable - that's why

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