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jpak

(41,758 posts)
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 03:26 PM Oct 2019

I was out and about all day - do I have this right?

Trump approves Special Ops Raid against ISIS Leader Baghdadi

Trump calls up Pal Putin and informs him of the raid.

Trump doesn't tell Congress of said raid.

Raid begins

Trump is at his golf course - not WH Situation Room

Raid successful (?)

Trump poses for fake Situation Room photo with Yes Men after golfing and hours after raid.

Pal Putin throws shade on raid - throws Trump under bus.

Trump makes fool of himself and spouts more lies at news conference this AM.

Did I miss anything?

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I was out and about all day - do I have this right? (Original Post) jpak Oct 2019 OP
That's pretty much it. Mz Pip Oct 2019 #1
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 LenaBaby61 Oct 2019 #2
there it is. every reporter, every time should ask, "Can you prove that?" Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2019 #26
EXACTLY!!!! LenaBaby61 Oct 2019 #27
Excellent summary, thanks. George II Oct 2019 #3
My suspicion: it was happenstance and 45 is trying to retroactively take credit. forgotmylogin Oct 2019 #4
One small thing - Baghdadi was not the leader of ISIS. Chellee Oct 2019 #5
You're right, he doesn't deserve any sympathy whatsoever. EndlessWire Oct 2019 #16
A retired, handicapped man with 3 children in tow. japple Oct 2019 #20
I missed out on Putin throwing shade CatWoman Oct 2019 #6
Same here! Putin. Shade. Under-the-bus-throwing. Whut? (n/t) SMC22307 Oct 2019 #13
Ahem, my Dear CatWoman (yes Daily Mail - ugh) jpak Oct 2019 #19
thanks J CatWoman Oct 2019 #24
Oh. My. Gods. Hekate Oct 2019 #7
My guess is the military had been tracking the guy for months. Blue_true Oct 2019 #8
Thats exactly how it happened. oldsoftie Oct 2019 #33
Yes - the subject of the raid died for the sixth time today malaise Oct 2019 #9
You missed one pretty important point lunatica Oct 2019 #10
They were certainly more involved than Trump was. crickets Oct 2019 #21
Didn't this raid also get delayed due to Turkey fiasco? zaj Oct 2019 #11
I believe it actually got moved up. Salviati Oct 2019 #14
At some point one of those people in the picture will fess up. Ligyron Oct 2019 #12
Did trump even know about the raid beforehand? Why was he golfing if he knew? brush Oct 2019 #28
Maybe this? soldierant Oct 2019 #30
Yes that exactly. Ligyron Oct 2019 #31
Something about a crying coward, but wrote off as projecting? Brainfodder Oct 2019 #15
Lindsay Graham loves and agrees with Trump on Syria. Hamlette Oct 2019 #17
Nope you didn't miss anything MustLoveBeagles Oct 2019 #18
Spot on summation. nt crickets Oct 2019 #22
You got it! Peacetrain Oct 2019 #23
Did he really call Putin first, and not our Congress? EndlessWire Oct 2019 #25
That about covers it, except MineralMan Oct 2019 #29
Yes Generic Brad Oct 2019 #32

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
2. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 03:35 PM
Oct 2019

The only thing is that this 'operation' has more smoke and clouds surrounding it than smoke coming out of a huge Barbecue put.

Which lying liar is telling the truth? tRump or putin? 🤔

ru$$ia said they're already killed Baghdadi 🤔

Facist fatso said gave he gave the okay for the raid 🤔

The Kurds found Baghdadi though 🤔

Facist Fatso thanked ru$$ia before thanking SpecialOps and CIA 🤔

This whole 'operation' the way Fascist Fatso describes it doesn't pass the smell test IMHO. Over the next few days/weeks/months, I'm hoping that investigative reporters/news journals et al (Not Faux or Breitbart, the mostly do propaganda) REALLY dig up what's going on here with this alleged Baghdadi suicide.


forgotmylogin

(7,529 posts)
4. My suspicion: it was happenstance and 45 is trying to retroactively take credit.
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 05:05 PM
Oct 2019

NYT story says that Donnie has been pulling resources from Syria, so the raid was a "do it now or never" thing. They succeeded in taking out the "world's number one terrorist" even though I've never heard of him. (Might be ignorance on my part.)

Trump was golfing, and decided to take credit for it. He wanted a "war room moment" photo like Obaba had. It took two hours to get some dudes together and scatter some unplugged ethernet cable to stage the photo as if he were on the ball and not on the green and put on his "I'm serious" face.

The next morning the King of Golf announces said Isis leader was "whimpering and crying" as if he were actually was in charge and paying attention.

Chellee

(2,097 posts)
5. One small thing - Baghdadi was not the leader of ISIS.
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 05:14 PM
Oct 2019

He named a successor in early August due to failing health.

https://intpolicydigest.org/2019/08/23/abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-relinquishes-control-of-isis-but-not-the-islamic-caliphate/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

So what we got was a retired, handicapped man. Still, a very bad man when he was in his prime, and he was the self declared leader of the caliphate, so that's something.

EndlessWire

(6,536 posts)
16. You're right, he doesn't deserve any sympathy whatsoever.
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 05:56 PM
Oct 2019

Decapitating noncombatants, burning people to death in cages...the world will not miss this monster.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
8. My guess is the military had been tracking the guy for months.
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 05:26 PM
Oct 2019

Trump fucked things up with the pullout of troops. The Pentagon saw a window closing and a risky raid was done. I doubt if they told Trump about everything that would happen beforehand.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
10. You missed one pretty important point
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 05:30 PM
Oct 2019

The Kurds were instrumental in getting Al Baghdadi. They probably told us where he was exactly.

crickets

(25,981 posts)
21. They were certainly more involved than Trump was.
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 06:14 PM
Oct 2019


@MazloumAbdi
For five months there has been joint intel cooperation on the ground and accurate monitoring, until we achieved a joint operation to kill Abu Bakir al-Bagdadi.

Thanks to everybody who participate in this great mission.
@realDonaldTrump
#SDF
#USArmy
#Rojava
#Baghdadi

5:23 AM - 27 Oct 2019

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
14. I believe it actually got moved up.
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 05:47 PM
Oct 2019

The mess in Syria forced our hand, as well as betraying the allies whose intel helped us set it up...

Ligyron

(7,633 posts)
12. At some point one of those people in the picture will fess up.
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 05:37 PM
Oct 2019

I hope it's sooner rather than later. The wrong "leader" was attacked anyway.

brush

(53,784 posts)
28. Did trump even know about the raid beforehand? Why was he golfing if he knew?
Mon Oct 28, 2019, 11:30 AM
Oct 2019

I read somewhere that the generals didn't tell him so he wouldn't fu_k it up.

EndlessWire

(6,536 posts)
25. Did he really call Putin first, and not our Congress?
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 06:21 PM
Oct 2019

If so, that is gawd awful. What's this bozo doing consulting with Putin? It just seems so apparent that he has a deal going with Russia and Turkey to divide the ME oil. Or something fishy. Something there.

I think he is moving assets to attack Iran. He was slowed by the outrage over the Syrian pullout, but he has made some deal, and he needed cover. Every time he has people shrieking in outrage over something he has done, he follows it up with something else that is shocking. We can't catch a breath. Every. effing. day.

I am very worried about the 50 nukes we have stored in Turkey. Is Donnie Two Scoops securing those, or is he just worried about outdoing Obama? He is so pathetic. Putin is his daddy. It's just too bad that Trump has control of our military. I'm guessing a major war in 2020, before the scheduled election. Then, he can put it on hold.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
29. That about covers it, except
Mon Oct 28, 2019, 11:38 AM
Oct 2019

that Trump also said things about what happened that he didn't know happened or were true. Like the "whimpering and crying" that supposedly went on. He just made that up.

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
32. Yes
Mon Oct 28, 2019, 07:51 PM
Oct 2019

Then he boasted past the point of absurdity (did you know nobody knows more about the internet than Trump?) and tried to humiliate IsIs.

The he went to a baseball game expecting a hero's welcome and was instead booed by a stadium of baseball fans who also chanted "Lock Him Up!".

Then his black heart broke.

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