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Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 06:07 PM Oct 2019

Now for something completely different.. The one thing I hate about the Brits.

Toast.

I have been going to England for the last 40 years.. absolutely adore the English and Irish, Scots, and Welsh and everyone who has moved there and become part of the great noise of the British Isles.. love everything about them, including the almost impossible Welsh accent. I love London and Dublin.. you don't need to travel to another country.. London and Dublin have the world in them, every group of people you pass speak a different language, it is thrilling to be there.

You go to the countryside, and you feel like you are in a PBS special.. so beautiful.. and the greatest graffiti ever when you travel by train.. it covers everything.. it is an art form there

But the toast.. dry little triangles of bread, usually cold sitting in a little metal toast holder, that no amount of butter or jam or orange marmalade is going to reconstitute..

Now if that is the worst complaint anyone can ever say about you, then pat yourself on the back.. and you will get through this Brexit hell.. love you too pieces you wonderful islands of cold toast and hot tea..

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Now for something completely different.. The one thing I hate about the Brits. (Original Post) Peacetrain Oct 2019 OP
why have toast when you can have crumpets Skittles Oct 2019 #1
I love hot toast with jam and butter. Peacetrain Oct 2019 #2
Headed home in a couple of days.. HipChick Oct 2019 #4
Safe travels! and enjoy your wonderful breakfast Peacetrain Oct 2019 #5
Real Bacon... HipChick Oct 2019 #6
yuk. lol. bacon is a pigs belly Kurt V. Oct 2019 #27
Yummy. And on two rounds of bread from a fresh sliced pan, with tea, it's the best. OnDoutside Oct 2019 #50
omg. That's good eats! w/o the bacon.. of course. hehe. Kurt V. Oct 2019 #57
Of course...lol OnDoutside Oct 2019 #59
Rashers. OnDoutside Oct 2019 #51
Yum, crumpets shanti Oct 2019 #8
aw man Skittles Oct 2019 #16
I was born in Britain pennylane100 Oct 2019 #3
ROFL!! Peacetrain Oct 2019 #7
Thanks for the kind thought. pennylane100 Oct 2019 #12
Not only is the toast cold, the butter seems to have been frozen! csziggy Oct 2019 #54
Had the dream of visiting for 2 weeks in 1984 Boomerproud Oct 2019 #9
I just smile every time I think of another visit Peacetrain Oct 2019 #15
Oh, dear lord. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2019 #10
Some things are a tradition I think.. Peacetrain Oct 2019 #17
Yes, that's a very 70's way of serving toast, to be fair. OnDoutside Oct 2019 #52
I was in London many years ago and I don't remember the toast. However, as far as it concerns abqtommy Oct 2019 #11
God how I hated cucumber sandwiches, pennylane100 Oct 2019 #14
I love toad in the holes. dewsgirl Oct 2019 #30
I'll pass on the whole breakfast deal in Britain. Paka Oct 2019 #13
I love the tomatoes and fish for breakfast.. yum!!!! Peacetrain Oct 2019 #19
They are good, but better at lunch. Paka Oct 2019 #33
I skip breakfast about 98% of the time. Blue_true Oct 2019 #53
It has been pretty good for our trip csziggy Oct 2019 #55
It is through the eating of toast that the English attempt to atone for their Aristus Oct 2019 #18
ROFL.. that is great.. do not eat sausage, so I have missed that one.. Peacetrain Oct 2019 #20
Kielbasa with saurkraut and mustard can be great, not a fan of breakfast sausage AdamGG Oct 2019 #23
Always wondered if rationing during WWII Mme. Defarge Oct 2019 #29
MMm.... real cumberland sausage is wonderful. dawg day Oct 2019 #39
Same thing here. Kablooie Oct 2019 #21
Toast Coolers! RobinA Oct 2019 #35
Yeah Toast!! Grokenstein Oct 2019 #22
English breakfasts are not my favorites, but high tea--oh yes! Lonestarblue Oct 2019 #24
They put beans on them instead of avocado IronLionZion Oct 2019 #25
The Welsh have an impossible accent? skypilot Oct 2019 #26
Wales... write this down.. is going to be the next big breakthrough in tourist interest Peacetrain Oct 2019 #49
As a Brit - lived there for my first 45 years - I confirm the food sucks - one reason I'm veggy. Doodley Oct 2019 #28
A lot of the pubs and restaurants are getting into "local" food- dawg day Oct 2019 #38
Things have mightily improved over the years.. especially for vegans and vegetarians Peacetrain Oct 2019 #48
Hot toast is so hard to find when you travel.... peacebuzzard Oct 2019 #31
I think you're supposed to dunk it in your tea... Wounded Bear Oct 2019 #32
You could soak that toast in Peacetrain Oct 2019 #47
Yes, Yes, Yes!!! RobinA Oct 2019 #34
It is a running joke in our family Peacetrain Oct 2019 #46
The best food for breakfast is leftover Chinese. roamer65 Oct 2019 #36
Hence.. fried rice! Peacetrain Oct 2019 #45
Well, as long as we anglophiles are complaining-- dawg day Oct 2019 #37
ROFL!! Peacetrain Oct 2019 #43
Sure the toast isn't edible but they have the best cabs in the world. NightWatcher Oct 2019 #40
I have taken a cab once I think Peacetrain Oct 2019 #44
Everything is good, if not great, with clotted cream. TheBlackAdder Oct 2019 #41
+1000 Peacetrain Oct 2019 #42
Anyone want any toast? jcboon Oct 2019 #56
Ugh, the toast rack. yewberry Oct 2019 #58
I have gotten such a kick out of what unites us as Democrats... cold toast Peacetrain Oct 2019 #60

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
2. I love hot toast with jam and butter.
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 06:14 PM
Oct 2019

And I have learned to find what ever little place is around the corner that you can get scones and coffee or tea for breakfast and forego the breakfast served at the hotel.. (that is true in the United States also, never ever eat at the hotel or motel you are staying at if it is a complementary meal)..

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
4. Headed home in a couple of days..
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 06:41 PM
Oct 2019

My first stop will be the nearest place I can get a fried English breakfast..I am usually too stuffed to eat the toast.. so doesn't bother me..

OnDoutside

(19,956 posts)
50. Yummy. And on two rounds of bread from a fresh sliced pan, with tea, it's the best.
Mon Oct 28, 2019, 05:41 PM
Oct 2019

EDIT : And lashings of butter, of course.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
8. Yum, crumpets
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 07:02 PM
Oct 2019

my favorites! Like them better than english muffins. Trader Joe's used to sell them, but when I went there last, was told they'd been discontinued.

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
16. aw man
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 07:41 PM
Oct 2019

those Trader Joe crumpets are DELICIOUS - I did notice they did not have them last time I was there

pennylane100

(3,425 posts)
3. I was born in Britain
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 06:34 PM
Oct 2019

and I always wondered about that when eating out. It was certainly not a practice in my house when I was growing up. You should ask about that when ordering your meal. You may get a strange look but at least you will enjoy your breakfast.

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
7. ROFL!!
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 07:00 PM
Oct 2019

My cousins live about an hour outside of London, and they hate toast.. I am the toast eater.. but everything has the wonderful full butter on it at their house.. bread not toasted

Being redundant but as I said at the bottom of my post, you are lucky indeed if that is the worst thing anyone can say about you is that you have cold toast


"Now if that is the worst complaint anyone can ever say about you, then pat yourself on the back.. and you will get through this Brexit hell.. love you too pieces you wonderful islands of cold toast and hot tea.."



pennylane100

(3,425 posts)
12. Thanks for the kind thought.
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 07:30 PM
Oct 2019

However I have lived in California for the last thirty odd years (with visits home, of course) but I definitely remember the annoying habit of serving cold toast with butter on the side. (Why on earth would any one expect it to melt on cold toast?) I remember thinking that often when going back.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
54. Not only is the toast cold, the butter seems to have been frozen!
Mon Oct 28, 2019, 06:40 PM
Oct 2019

Seriously, many of the places I've had breakfast while in the UK for the last two + months, the toast comes in those little racks, which is bad enough, but the butter is so cold, if the toast wasn't already cold, it would be as soon as the butter hits it.

The best places to get toast were at the hotels with a buffet breakfast where you put your bread through the conveyor toaster. If you plan it right, you can thaw out the butter while the toast is traveling through the toaster. Then you can have hot toast with softened butter. Add a good amount of marmalade, and breakfast is good!

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
15. I just smile every time I think of another visit
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 07:40 PM
Oct 2019

Granted we always try and do it in September after the crowds have left and it is usually dry.. (not always, I got soaked to the skin the last time I was in Cardiff)..I always come back on the plane, already planning my next trip back in my head. Places I want to go back to, and places not yet seen. My first trip was 1978 and my last trip was 2018.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,857 posts)
10. Oh, dear lord.
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 07:13 PM
Oct 2019

The last time I was there was nearly 40 years ago. I'd have thought they'd stopped that ludicrous way of serving toast in restaurants.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
11. I was in London many years ago and I don't remember the toast. However, as far as it concerns
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 07:24 PM
Oct 2019

Brexit, when we say that Bo "ya doesn't have to call me Johnson" Jo is "toast" I think it's appropriate to
think of him as a "dry little triangle of bread" and feed him to the ducks. If I were anybody thinking about
taking advantage of the Brits I'd remember that many of the people there eat cucumber sandwiches.

pennylane100

(3,425 posts)
14. God how I hated cucumber sandwiches,
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 07:36 PM
Oct 2019

and that was long before I realized how much fun there was being made in the world about our food. Luckily my mother was Italian so we had had a very mixed diet. My dad, being Welsh, served Welsh Rarebit. That "Toad in the Hole" were among the few items he cooked well.

Paka

(2,760 posts)
13. I'll pass on the whole breakfast deal in Britain.
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 07:36 PM
Oct 2019

Over cooked eggs and greasy under cooked sausage. Not my cup of tea. The toast may be the most edible part of all. I do like stewed tomatoes and I love baked beans, just not for breakie. I'll take the French version any day--espresso and croissant. That's my idea of how to start a day.

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
19. I love the tomatoes and fish for breakfast.. yum!!!!
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 07:46 PM
Oct 2019

And some of the best curries in the world.. put them up against anyone, will be found in London.. bar none.

Paka

(2,760 posts)
33. They are good, but better at lunch.
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 10:15 PM
Oct 2019

The basic truth is that breakfast isn't my meal. I don't wake up hungry, so lunch and dinner are my better meals. Give me good coffee and I'm ready to go in the morning.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
53. I skip breakfast about 98% of the time.
Mon Oct 28, 2019, 05:58 PM
Oct 2019

But your description of an English breakfast was interesting.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
55. It has been pretty good for our trip
Mon Oct 28, 2019, 06:45 PM
Oct 2019

Eggs cooked any way you like (I like soft poached with nice runny yolks), sausage cooked so the outside is just short of crispy. Too bad there was no 'real' bacon, but I got used to the British version on BLTs.

What I could never adjust to was baked beans for breakfast. That is just wrong on so many levels!

My go-to breakfast (when someone else is cooking) is a poached egg, one sausage link, cooked mushrooms, and one slice of toast with marmalade.

Aristus

(66,375 posts)
18. It is through the eating of toast that the English attempt to atone for their
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 07:42 PM
Oct 2019

national sins.

They may not be quite sure what those sins are, but whatever they are, they can be amply atoned for by eating English toast.

But the toast is as nothing compared to the sausages. Joyless tubes filled with gristle, sitting in a puddle of something hot and sad.

The sausages are for those who know what their sins are, and wish to atone for something specific.




- Adapted from a piece by Douglas Adams.

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
20. ROFL.. that is great.. do not eat sausage, so I have missed that one..
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 07:49 PM
Oct 2019

I love everything about the place, the food included.... well except for the cold toast.. and maybe not the sausage.. sausage is disgusting in any country..

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
39. MMm.... real cumberland sausage is wonderful.
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 10:27 PM
Oct 2019

And for a cheap eat, Waitrose (the grocery store) has some wonderful sausage rolls for about a pound a piece.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
21. Same thing here.
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 08:10 PM
Oct 2019

I hated the little silver toast coolers they always used.
It’s as if warm toast is something to avoid.

Lonestarblue

(9,993 posts)
24. English breakfasts are not my favorites, but high tea--oh yes!
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 08:46 PM
Oct 2019

Scones, clotted cream, lovely fruit jam—oh my. Quite a wonderful experience.

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
25. They put beans on them instead of avocado
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 08:53 PM
Oct 2019

why not just get fresh toast, or toast it yourself? It doesn't have to be cold.

Here's Gordon Ramsay burning toast like a boss

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
49. Wales... write this down.. is going to be the next big breakthrough in tourist interest
Mon Oct 28, 2019, 07:32 AM
Oct 2019

Gentrification of Cardiff is impressive..it is beautiful country

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
38. A lot of the pubs and restaurants are getting into "local" food-
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 10:25 PM
Oct 2019

And celebrating great British food traditions like the meat pies and the root vegetable soups. I think the food is definitely improving. (The price is going up along with the quality, of course.)

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
48. Things have mightily improved over the years.. especially for vegans and vegetarians
Mon Oct 28, 2019, 07:30 AM
Oct 2019

Mildred's... If I remember correctly its about 5 or 6 blocks from Piccadilly Circus... we really love to go there

peacebuzzard

(5,172 posts)
31. Hot toast is so hard to find when you travel....
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 09:07 PM
Oct 2019

Nothing better than hot toast with butter and jelly to go with coffee in the a.m.
When I travel anywhere its always the most difficult find. U.S. and abroad, you really have to plan the breakfast thing. And that dilemma is a difficult one!

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
47. You could soak that toast in
Mon Oct 28, 2019, 07:27 AM
Oct 2019

hot tea or coffee for an hour, and you could still hammer a nail with it...

RobinA

(9,893 posts)
34. Yes, Yes, Yes!!!
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 10:16 PM
Oct 2019

I thought it was me! Or I was being inflexible and intolerant. What’s with the cold toast? Why, why, why?

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
46. It is a running joke in our family
Mon Oct 28, 2019, 07:26 AM
Oct 2019

I have family living in England.. its the one thing that starts and ends our conversations. One of those wonderful odd traditions that just makes you smile..

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
37. Well, as long as we anglophiles are complaining--
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 10:23 PM
Oct 2019

I love the English breakfast, but their bacon is more like stringy ham. I like our bacon better.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
40. Sure the toast isn't edible but they have the best cabs in the world.
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 10:29 PM
Oct 2019

After my trip back this summer, I really really want to have one sent stateside. Oh, the cabbies are cool too, but I want that car.

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
44. I have taken a cab once I think
Mon Oct 28, 2019, 07:24 AM
Oct 2019

Usually I take the bus in London, not even the Underground.. its so easy to get around with the bus system and you get such a great feel for the place from the bus..

yewberry

(6,530 posts)
58. Ugh, the toast rack.
Mon Oct 28, 2019, 08:32 PM
Oct 2019

I always assumed the cold toast sliver was meant to be dipped in egg yolk, something I don't indulge in and so never really appreciated.

May I add my teeny-tiny pet peeve about Britain, in case anyone hasn't experienced it and could use the advice?

Never ever ever turn on the hot water spigot without tempering it with cold--YOU WILL BURN YOURSELF. The hot water straight from the spigot will scald your skin.

Wonderful place to travel, and beautiful. My Scottish ancestors came to the US from Lewis, and my husband's family still lives near Edinburgh and up northeast of Inverness. I hope to return someday.

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
60. I have gotten such a kick out of what unites us as Democrats... cold toast
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 08:05 AM
Oct 2019


Love Inverness.. 40 years ago we walked the River Ness to Loch Ness.. I have no idea if that walk is still there but wild blueberries grew everywhere and we picked our lunch all along the way..The scariest thing that happened to me on that Scotland trip was a hike up into the Cairingorms National Park, a smaller hill. and the sea fog rolled in, .. hubby was way up in front of me, and I literally could not see 2 inches in front of me.. I just sat down on the trail and waited for the fog to blow out.. Hubby was stuck at the top..bu when it did blow off.. I could see all down into 4 valleys, I think three of them had their own loch or a tributary of not sure.. but it was beautiful beyond description..
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