Trump Biographer Says Trump Will 'Travel the Country Fomenting Violence' if He's Not 'Put in Jail'

[highplainsdem]

Audio at the link:

https://www.mediaite.com/radio/trump-biographer-says-trump-will-travel-the-country-fomenting-violence-if-hes-not-put-in-jail/

President Donald Trump biographer David Cay Johnston told Sirius XM radio host Dean Obeidallah that he thinks that Trump would need to go to prison if he’s removed from office.

Speaking with Obeidallah on The Dean Obeidallah Show, Johnston argued Trump is a different person than President Richard Nixon and that Nixon realized it would be bad to put the country through an arduous impeachment trial. Nixon was not impeached, though the House of Representatives had drafted articles of impeachment before Nixon’s resignation.

“Nixon realized that the game was up, there was no point in putting the country through this [impeachment and removal] he knew it was not good for the country, that’s why I say Richard Nixon at the end of the day was a patriot,” he said.

Johnston, a Pulitzer Prize winner, told Obeidallah that he thinks Trump would need to be prosecuted and “put in jail,” otherwise he would spend his time “traveling the country fomenting violence.”

“In the case of Trump, we face a different problem,” Johnston said. “Even if Trump is convicted and removed and we get briefly Mike Pence as President, that’s not enough. Trump will spend the rest of his life traveling the country fomenting violence. He’s already fomenting violence. He has asked crowds as a candidate to beat people up. So it’s I think it’s vital … he needs to be prosecuted for the many, many, many crimes he has committed and put in jail.”

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[Maru Kitteh]

9. Which of your loved ones are you willing to sacrifice on the altar of "waking people up?"

[Hekate]

20. So, Aussie, you live here or in Australia far from our problems? And how do you imagine...

...a "civil war" could be "localized"?

[Roy Rolling]

36. Self Delete

Aussie should delete the comment encouraging violence. A Civil War is the fantasy of every right-wing nutjob and an inappropriate suggestion for peaceful Democratic voters.

[Newest Reality]

2. It is clear to me...

That we have a classic example of a stochastic terrorist on our hands here. That's really the term that I think fits best as far as how he injects violent ideas and implications into his crowds and via media. Even his projection that cops and the military love him is an extension of that by way of implication.

So, yes, we have a dangerous manipulator who would most likely hold a deep grudge than just walk away and let it go. However, that is just a speculation. I don't know if it is possible to really predict his outcome considering how many obvious and serious personality disorders he has been harboring all these years without much in the way of real consequences for his actions, which I think spurs him on.

We could assume that if he takes his stochastic terrorism on the road as a citizen, that will have some serious, legal retribution and it will be much harder for him to evade the repercussions.

In our speculations, we just don't know if he will stay, walk or even face prison. There is the notion that he seems to be his own worse enemy often and that might have some deeper implications than the superficial persona he exhibits, which is a calculated, manipulative front in my opinion with expected results on his part.

[Skittles]

3. HE ALREADY DOES THAT

that's part of the objective of his hate rallies

[Hekate]

21. Yes, indeed, Skittles

How I wish he could get the ass-kicking he so richly deserves

[Eliot Rosewater]

4. He and putin have it all planned, cut the power to most of the country on election

day

chaos

cant count votes

stays in power

[erronis]

10. Maybe. Just cutting the internet (DNS servers, major ISPs) could do the trick also.

[Eliot Rosewater]

50. true...hadn't thought of that

[Snackshack]

5. Agreed

There is only one scenario where DT leaves the office and does not go around fomenting the violence that Mr. Johnson describes all other scenarios (impeachment/ removal, voted out, resignation, term ending) will result in DT being all over Twitter/TV/Radio criticizing the new presidents decisions and proclaiming how he would have made the perfect call/ decision/ choices etc. DT will not observe the tradition of respect past presidents have observed/extended of being low profile/ quite like Clinton was with Bush Jr or Bush Jr to Obama or Obama with DT.

[erronis]

14. Another scenario involves a trauma; an aneurysm, MI, stroke, etc.

Not that this is likely with such a healthy specimen <sarcasm/>

[Hekate]

22. Hopefully nothing that will lead the majority of the GOP to think he's been "martyred"...

Of course, with his cult members, gods know what they'll believe.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

51. Wait until you see the size of the shrine they're planning for when he dies.

I'd go piss on it, but I hate to stand in lines.

[Snackshack]

48. Yea

An acute traumatic medical event is what I meant with the first scenario I just did not articulate it correctly. But that scenario guarantees post presidency silence.

[inwiththenew]

6. He's got a cult like following that I don't think we've ever seen in US history

Not even "St. Ronnie" had as fervid of followers as this. I mean it's not everyone who voted for him but even if it's only 10% that's still like 5 million people. They will still listen to him even if he's out of office.

[Maru Kitteh]

12. Indeed, they don't even blink when Dumpy proclaims himself

"The BEST President in history except perhaps the late great Abraham Lincoln, and maybe even him."

[VOX]

32. Ever notice how the cult refers to him as "OUR president" or "MY president"?

They are fully invested in this psychotic crook. He’s been sent by GAWD to be their avenging angel. They don’t care what he does (or has done) that’s overtly criminal, they’re just happy to bask in the glow of “owning the libs.”

It’s way past time to break up their hate-filled party.

[certainot]

47. most of them are dittoheads - they need limnbaugh and sons to excuse him

all democrats have to do is stop ignoring talk radio

they need to start replying to the trump lies with "well, that's what limnbaugh has been saying a lot but it's a lie" or "just because limnbuaugh says it over and over doesn't mean it's a fact, just the opposite" etc

and when dems expose that limnbag has been used by putinfor 10 years

that will separate the sefcondary talk radio audience from the true base and the true base are cowardly authoritarians who will slink away.

and americans need to start protesting the 87 universities that broadcast sports on 260 limnbaugh stations until the schools start looking for alternatives - advertisers will head for the hills and trump's most important ally will fall aapart

[marieo1]

7. Respect for David Cay Johnston

David Cay Johnston is a hero - I very much respect his opinion. He always is right - I believe him!! DJT is a 'loose screw' and he is able to excite other 'loose screws' to do whatever he encourages them to do.

[not fooled]

13. Yep

He tried to warn the country, before the election.

I remember hearing an interview with him back in 2016 wherein he described Donald's (how Johnston refers to him) mobbed-up history, and thinking "Why isn't this the #1 story about him?" Already back then it was obvious he was getting a pass from the media.

[Garrett78]

15. Mob ties, money laundering, rape and sexual assault, overt racism...all known before he even ran.

[Baked Potato]

8. I think he'll be bombastic for as long as he can get on TV

He’s a quitter at heart and will fade quick. He really doesn’t want civil unrest because it will affect his bank account and properties worldwide.

How hard would it be to occupy a freakin golf course and cause mayhem? Or a hotel? That’s his conundrum, he has too much exposure to be the cause of “unrest”.

[woodsprite]

38. That depends if money is tied to civil unrest via Putin. nt

[MarianJack]

11. I never in my life ever expected to say THIS!

Tricky Dickie was a much better man than Dolt45.

I can imagine my father's ashes making a tornado in his urn at the notion of Nixon being a better man than anyone. Yikes.

RESIST!

[maddiemom]

33. I KNOW!

Nixon's ambitions were far different than Trump's are. Nixon wanted to go down in history as a great statesman and leader, and had vast experience in government. True, he was paranoid and petty in many ways, and didn't balk at underhanded methods in getting what he felt was his due. But TRUMP! Words fail me. I voted AGAINST Nixon the first time I was old enough to vote, but his insecurities manifested themselves very differently from Trump's greed and pride in being the biggest conman he can possibly be.

[ChazInAz]

43. Horrifying thought, isn't it?

[patphil]

16. As if he isn't doing it now.

[YOHABLO]

17. He's a vengeful sociopath. Obama degraded him so badly he decided to run for POTUS.

[GoCubsGo]

18. Kind of like he's been doing all along, eh?

[Evolve Dammit]

19. He is a domestic terrorist threat to the U.S. I'd call that a high crime.

[smirkymonkey]

23. He is like a rabid animal who needs to be put down.

I know that sounds extreme, but it's true. He needs to go permanently. Whether put in prison for the rest of his life or another way, he needs to be removed from society.

[Grasswire2]

24. must be rendered penniless and powerless, assets seized, restricted from public life...

....and doing business. Him and his family too. Otherwise he and they will seek vengeance by stoking a cult rebellion. You know he will. And he will love it.

There's a good strong argument for the Rosenberg remedy for treason.

[Pachamama]

28. +100000

Completely agree

[Grasswire2]

25. Pence is dirty too.

MUST NOT accept his succession as inevitable. Kristol was pushing that this week in the interest of peaceful transfer of power.

Do not fall for it. There lies a trap.

[Stargazer09]

40. Yes, he is

I don’t buy his pious, oh so innocent B.S. Pence is dirty, evil, and stupid.

[Beartracks]

26. Jailed with no social media. n/t

[UTUSN]

27. I've wondered why SHITLER hasn't lashed out at this fellow.

[treestar]

29. No doubt about that

That he does not care what happens to anything but his ego

[True Blue American]

30. I think Trump will be so far

Into dementia in a couple of years he will noy know anything. He is getting there now. He sounds like a broken record, is having trouble,reading, speaking. Shows all the signs I have seen so often. Many also get mean. He already is.

[BSdetect]

31. There ought to be no argument about locking him up though traitors deserve more.

[LudwigPastorius]

34. "Nixon was a patriot"

Nope.

He was a criminal, who put himself before his country.

The only reason Nixon quit was because the GOP Congressional leadership walked into the Oval Office and told him that they would not stand in the way of impeachment, nor vote to acquit him in an impeachment trial.

Nixon chose the option with less ignominy, resignation. Nixon was a crook, but an intelligent crook.

Trump, on the other hand, is dense, deranged, and a traitor.

[trof]

44. Precisely.

[VOX]

35. Banish him to his beloved Mother Russia.

He seems to have a permanent-mushroom-sized (apologies, Stormy Daniels) soft-on for Russia, anyway. Maybe Putin will set him up as a phony oligarch. Although we know what Putin does to those who don’t deliver the goods.

DJT, you traitorous pile of excrement, you fake-tanned shitgibbon from hell, you superglue your lips to the asses of the world’s dictators. You chew Adderall like after-dinner mints, then go onstage in some musty auditorium in Lickspittle, Mississippi, and riff on the same shit you’ve been barfing out since 2017, which, served after the interactive “lock her up” aphrodisiac chant, will eventually begin to bore the living crap out of even the most MAGAT-y of MAGAts. You BROKE this country in two, by dragging Republicans to the shameful far, far right, aka fascism. You’ve elevated the idiotic and squelched the monumental. You deliberately incite violence and spread lies, disinformation and hatred. You’d be a 100% match for Germany, c. 1933.

If there truly were a just and merciful sky-god, your tongue would cleave to the roof of your mouth.
Enjoy Siberia, asshole.

[Roy Rolling]

37. One recession or depression

One stock market crash and his supporters will be worried they lost their job because of Trump and rich Republicans.

That’s why he’s pulling out all the stops to prop up the stock market. If it collapses, so does the Trump support.

Sadly for him, he’s taught people to throw someone under the bus.

[llashram]

39. yep

he's dangerous to our, at all times, tenuous social cohesiveness. He would, I think related to this biographer analysis, be the catalyst to push this country into the abyss of chaos and open violence in the streets at racial and cultural differences and the violence associated with those RW 'demons' as they see all not christian white and male-female.

[Texin]

41. I think Johnston is right up to a point.

I think he'll try that - for awhile. But the reality is, when he no longer has the bully pulpit of the presidency* to bolster him, he'll become just another washed up former reality tv star. If The Love Boat were still around he could probably get a guest cameo on such a show, but I think he will only have very limited appeal. When a person isn't on the airwaves every day or once weekly, they fade from memory. Besides which, he's going to be very busy trying to stay out of prison. I guess he'll always have Twitter - maybe if they don't ban him (and I think the chances of that happening are pretty good given the fact he wouldn't be President* any longer).

[Enoki33]

42. Think the serial criminal will continue to plant latent social violence in

the minds of his more ignorant supporters in furtherance of his quest to hold on to power. Once that power goal is no longer achievable he will more likely concentrate on holding unto his ill gotten wealth. Any possibility of losing it will redirect him. He literally feels worthless as a person without money, and that is the key to restraining the monster. The other alternative would be to jail him for his crimes and throw away the key long enough to allow dementia to make him ineffective.

[Pepsidog]

45. Exile the bastard to his beloved Russia.

[LiberalLovinLug]

46. Unfortunately he has become a cult hero to many

Even if he is sitting in a jail cell, maybe that would even bolster his image all the more, he'll now always have a rabid following who will forever believe he was persecuted unfairly and was the best President they have ever had.

In fact, when he is released, or pardoned, I can see him getting a bump. And he'll fill arenas again. If he doesn't or can't run in 2020...would he be eligible to run for a second term in 2024, or 2028? How does that work?

[certainot]

49. he won't be able to do shit once dems stop ignoring talk radio and end the biggest political mistake

in history