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yortsed snacilbuper

(7,939 posts)
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 08:45 PM Nov 2019

To prove a change of domicile,

The asserting party must prove the change of domicile by clear and convincing evidence.17 As previously mentioned, proving domicile is a fact-intensive inquiry. New York’s Appellate Division has stated that “no single factor is controlling and the unique facts and circumstances of each case must be closely considered.”18 In Matter of Rudolph (Deceased) & Loretta Zapka, New York Department of Taxation Appeals, DTA No. 804111 (June 22, 1989), the taxpayers argued they changed their domicile from New York to Florida, but they had strong ties to both New York and Florida. New York’s Tax Appeals Tribunal stated that “[t]he mere fact that persuasive arguments can be made from the facts in support of both Florida and New York as petitioners’ domicile indicates that they have not clearly and convincingly evidenced an intent to change their New York domicile.”19 Accordingly, establishing strong ties in a new location may not be sufficient evidence of intent if strong ties are continued with the old domicile.

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After changing domicile, New York may challenge the individual’s nonresident filing status for income tax purposes via an income tax audit. During an audit, three issues are examined, starting with the domicile of the individual. If it is determined that the individual is not domiciled in New York, the next issue is whether the individual is a New York statutory resident. If the individual is determined to be a New York statutory resident, the third issue is the allocation of income. The scope of the audit will be based on the facts involved.

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In determining domicile, the guidelines require the auditor to examine two general categories: primary factors and other factors.34 There are five primary factors: the home; active business involvement; time; items “near and dear”; and family connections. If the auditor has not reached a supportable conclusion based upon the five primary factors, the auditor will examine “other” factors, including, but not limited to:35

• Citation in legal documents, such as wills, that a jurisdiction is the place of domicile.

• Address at which bills, financial statements and correspondence concerning other family business is primarily received.

• Physical location of safe deposit boxes used for family records and valuables.

• Location of auto, boat, and airplane registrations and driver’s or operator’s licenses.

• Where the individual is registered to vote and whether he or she has exercised that right.

• Possession of a New York City Parking Tax exemption.

• Telephone services at each residence, including the nature of the listing, the type of service features and activity at the location.

(www.floridabar.org/...)


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/10/31/1896505/--Floridian-Trump-may-not-qualify-and-his-NY-audit-just-got-more-interesting-and-personal?detail=emaildkbow

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To prove a change of domicile, (Original Post) yortsed snacilbuper Nov 2019 OP
When I went to grad school I needed to establish residency. Igel Nov 2019 #1
While it is, as you say, about the money 2naSalit Nov 2019 #4
Wonder if there is anyone in his orbit of dimwits who can do it riht/ dixiegrrrrl Nov 2019 #2
He needs to actually live there 183 days a year ashredux Nov 2019 #3
So it's no longer the "Southern White House" anymore, eh? NCLefty Nov 2019 #5
I approached it a different way EndlessWire Nov 2019 #6

Igel

(35,300 posts)
1. When I went to grad school I needed to establish residency.
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 09:33 PM
Nov 2019

To avoid paying out of state tuition. First year, no choice.

When I arrived Sunday, dead tired and in need of unpacking all my stuff, I immediately located all the offices I'd need to visit on Monday. Dropped by the dept. Monday in the morning, then took off on bike to get drivers license, open bank accounts, establish any sort of "I'm here to stay" evidence I could. Because the term officially started on Wednesday that year, and because of calendars it would start a day earlier the following year.

Turned in all the paperwork the following summer. The registrar smirked. All my residency stuff was dated either 1 day early or on the last possible day. I'd done my homework and found what was necessary to establish no permanent link with my old state and what counted as evidence of intent to stay in my new state.

It was all about money. In my case, it was about money. In the case in the OP, it's about money, at least on the part of NYS. They want it. They see a way of getting it. It may not be much in this case, but if they don't enforce the requirements here that provide money for their coffers, then they'll lose the next battle when they argue that the things not necessary now are necessary then.

2naSalit

(86,579 posts)
4. While it is, as you say, about the money
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 11:37 PM
Nov 2019

there's more to this. The idiot hasn't thought this through very well and ahs now set himself up for more scrutiny regarding his taxes. Not only that, he won't sever all business and banking ties to NYC. He can do business from MAGA laga by the sea but the ties are to NYC and his usual business there. So just filing some kind of whatever, if anything, in FL does not sever his ties to his long term residency so this should get interesting.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
2. Wonder if there is anyone in his orbit of dimwits who can do it riht/
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 10:32 PM
Nov 2019


I can hear it now.... Rudy: "Don't worry, boss, I got you covered on the residence thing".

EndlessWire

(6,524 posts)
6. I approached it a different way
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 02:52 AM
Nov 2019

I looked up Florida extradition law. They will only extradite for a felony? And they wouldn't hold him longer than say, 30 days? ALL of them are leaving...wonder why?

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