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Sun Nov 3, 2019, 07:48 PM

'Seven whistleblowers' And a story that -- if true -- could be deadly for Jared Kushner

https://spectator.us/seven-whistleblowers-jared-kushner-bin-salman/amp/

Some we know about already. There’s the original whistleblower, the CIA officer at the White House who first reported Trump’s call to the Ukrainian president. Republicans are now pushing to ‘unmask’ him, though his name is already all over the internet. He is, supposedly, a 33-year-old graduate of Yale, a registered Democrat who had worked for both Joe Biden and John Brennan. These facts, so helpful to the White House, are in a ‘dossier’ circulated on Capitol Hill by the president’s allies. There’s also Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, the senior Ukraine expert on the National Security Council, who came to the US from Ukraine — to Little Odessa in Brooklyn — as a child aged three. He arrived to give evidence to the House Intelligence Committee wearing his dark blue Army dress uniform and military ribbons. He said that the White House transcript of the call between Trump and Ukraine’s president had important gaps — and that his attempts to include ‘crucial words and phrases’ had been rebuffed. ‘I am a patriot and it is my sacred duty and honor to advance and defend our country irrespective of party or politics.’ And there’s Tim Morrison, the NSC’s director for European and Russian Affairs, who was one of the small group to have listened to the call. He said that Trump’s ambassador to the EU, Gordon Sondland, told him that Ukraine wouldn’t get US arms unless it investigated Biden.

That’s three whistleblowers. What about the other four? Cockburn’s source says that at least one is nothing to do with Ukraine but instead was reporting a call between Trump and the Saudi ruler, Mohammed bin Salman. Specifically, the whistleblower is said to have ‘concerns’ about what was said on the call about the president’s son-in-law and adviser, Jared Kushner. Kushner himself is known to have a very close relationship with MBS. Cockburn has previously written that Kushner may have been what Cosmo would call an ‘oversharer’ when it came to MBS. Unfortunately, it’s claimed that what he was sharing was American secrets: information Kushner had requested from the CIA would (allegedly) be echoed back in US intercepts of calls between members of the Saudi royal family. Once source said this was Kushner lost his intelligence clearances for a while.

According to Cockburn’s source about the seven whistleblowers, there’s more. It is that Kushner (allegedly) gave the green light to MBS to arrest the dissident journalist, Jamal Khashoggi, who was later murdered and dismembered in the Saudi consulate in Istanbul. A second source tells Cockburn that this is true and adds a crucial twist to the story. This source claims that Turkish intelligence obtained an intercept of the call between Kushner and MBS. And President Erdogan used it to get Trump to roll over and pull American troops out of northern Syria before the Turks invaded. Cockburn hears that investigators for the House Intelligence Committee know this whole tale and the identities of some of the people telling it. Whether any of is true is another matter but Adam Schiff certainly seems to be smiling a lot these days.


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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 07:51 PM

1. That last paragraph... K&R

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 02:18 AM

52. how about the last two lines?

Cockburn hears that investigators for the House Intelligence Committee know this whole tale and the identities of some of the people telling it. Whether any of is true is another matter but Adam Schiff certainly seems to be smiling a lot these days.

Cute. So we're really standing behind our story here?

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 07:52 PM

2. Kablooie!

The story is “Deadly”?

Is that literally deadly or figuratively deadly?

Sounds real bad, whichever.

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Response to Cracklin Charlie (Reply #2)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 09:56 PM

34. Now Putin is not the only one with kompromat on trump.

Erdogan has joined the club and is using his leverage on trump/kushner to get his way with trump.

This is why this incompetent, corrupt charlatan should never have been allowed to step foot in the WH.

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Response to brush (Reply #34)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 09:50 AM

70. I'm getting the feeling

there are quite a few foreign leaders who are using information to manipulate Trump. It must be so easy with this incompetent, careless group of family and friends.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #70)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 09:54 AM

71. Yep, who knows what else is yet to come out?

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Response to brush (Reply #71)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 10:11 PM

94. Never a dull moment

Life is so stressful these days.

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Response to brush (Reply #34)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 11:13 AM

79. The Trump Timeshare


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Response to smb (Reply #79)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 11:37 AM

83. Wow! Nice toon. Wonder which other tyrant has kompromat on trump?

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 07:54 PM

3. Fuckin' amateurs running our US policy.

All based on what is good for the Trump/Kushner brand. We deserve a lot better than these scam artists.

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Reply #3)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 04:26 AM

57. I hope they are both branding license plates in some federal correctional institute, the big house.

 

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 08:00 PM

4. I predict that tRump and Jarvanke will flee the country.

They have stashed $$$ in offshore banks for years. Not sure what country - I thought Ukraine, but the election a few months ago makes that impossible.

I believe that they will flee, and dumb and dumber will be conveniently out of the country at the same time.

They have no allegiance.
They only worship $$$$$
They KNOW they are 'going down' in the USA

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Response to alittlelark (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 04:22 AM

56. I think so, too. Making a run for it some dark night in an unmarked helicopter

when he gets a clear sense that the jig really is up.

Maybe to Crimea by way of a couple of stops and plane changes. It’s controlled by his pal
Vlad, and he’s been a good and productive servant, so why not?

Wouldn’t surprise me if that’s something the two of them talked about during one of those private “just between the two of us” meetings. Safe haven arrangements just in case he runs out of options here.

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Response to alittlelark (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 05:48 AM

59. Nope they will burn the country down

nm

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Response to Cosmocat (Reply #59)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 12:34 PM

84. I agree. They aren't going to go anywhere ...

especially while daddy is commander and chief, can ignite a World War on a moments notice, and even has the button and it’s code in his possession. They’ll take us all down first. These times are far more dangerous than we tend to realize in our daily lives.

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Response to alittlelark (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 02:50 PM

88. But remember Ivanka's charming little anniversary tweet about her beloved

mannequin of a husband...

"Everything about you is real, kind, humble and brave,” she wrote in the caption. “You inspire me with your calm, stoic disposition and unwavering prioritization of that which matters most in life.”

Tell me she doesn't know exactly what he is up to and how corrupt and evil he is. He is just like her father and so is she. I hope they both end up in prison together.

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 08:02 PM

5. Lock them all up.

Then toss the key.

The US sanctioned the murder of Jamal Khashoggi. Just one more quid pro quo. They all need to be tried for crimes against humanity.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #5)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 09:17 PM

26. Cockburn was the guy who said Mueller was going to indict Trump

 

Sadly , I think he's a full of it

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Response to ritapria (Reply #26)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 10:39 PM

37. Many up here said the same before, too

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Response to ritapria (Reply #26)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 11:13 PM

44. Well.

We don't have the full Mueller report now do we? Nor do the House Committees. AG Barr who has designated himself to me Trumps lawyer and not the lawyer for the United States saw to that. It is being hidden for a reason.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #44)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 08:56 AM

65. "We don't have the full Mueller report now do we?"

Thank you!

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Response to Botany (Reply #65)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 04:19 PM

91. You are welcome, Botany.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #91)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 07:07 PM

92. The Mueller Report is gonna be devestaitng

https://themoscowproject.org/explainers/trumps-russia-cover-up-by-the-numbers-70-contacts-with-russia-linked-operatives/

That is why Barr is flying all over the world looking for a way to discredit it.

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Response to Botany (Reply #92)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 07:18 PM

93. Yep.

Pisses me off how many say he is a loser and always a repuke. He was being dissed long before the report came out...Heavly Redacked. Anyone that believes his having sold us out have not been keeping up with the actions of the Barr, the Ghoul, the Graham, McConnel and the rest of the merry brand of traitors.

Thanks for the link!

Trump’s Russia Cover-Up By the Numbers – 272 contacts with Russia-linked operatives

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #5)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 10:51 PM

39. Khashoggi's family, fiancee really ought to sue Kushner



Trump's crazy is one thing, but his family mob needs to be in lockup for a long time.


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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 08:05 PM

6. I thought everyone already figured that out. Kump was clearly in the loop

on Khashoggi's arrest and execution. Khashoggi was given a false sense of security by trump's govt before his trip.

trump & kush were truly surprised that any of us actually cared about what happened. That's how sociopathic and fucked up in the head they are.

I naively believed that the Khashoggi murder would be the last straw for republicans. That was dumb on my part. If they didn't give 2 shits about separated and caged babies on the border, why TF would they care about an executed Muslim journalist?

Edited to add:

investigators for the House Intelligence Committee know this whole tale and the identities of some of the people telling it


If they know this shit and have the smoking gun, then remove the mother f*cking traitor right now! What the hell are they waiting for???? We're literally in danger with kump at the wheel!

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Response to ecstatic (Reply #6)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 09:14 AM

66. And Trump's fingers

on the nuclear button.

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 08:09 PM

7. That's a bigger grenade than Rudy Giuliani...

Boom!

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 08:10 PM

8. Holy hell

If true, it's all over but the singing. Hallelujah.

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 08:16 PM

9. Who or what is this Cockburn?

I'm intrigued by this story, and really want to believe it, but without any corroboration or confirmation, this is nothing but a heaping dish of bullshit suitable for the tabloids.

That being said, I really, really hope this story gains some traction and grows legs.

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #9)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 08:44 PM

18. Spectator is UK but a conservative site praised it recently which makes this all the more interestin

Spectator has been around nearly 200 years and has a conservative bias

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #18)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 09:16 PM

25. Interesting, yes, but without more dots to connect, this is nothing but a big juicy....

conspiracy theory. And speaking of conspiracies, I could believe this could actually be a Psy Op story designed to suck progressives into a vacuum.

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #25)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 07:35 AM

61. Exactly. Is this like feeding Dan Rather was for BushCo

Also. Sadly the death of a WP MUSLIM journalist, even if orchestrated by Trump Inc., will not be the thing to bring along GOP pols and trolls to the impeachment party, but perfect to discredit the entire opposition to Trump if even one facet of it can be found to be less than credible.

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #9)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 10:59 PM

41. It's a what.....


The Spectator has today launched a new website aimed at readers in the US which it says offers a “genuine opportunity” to reach into America – but will remain neutral on President Donald Trump.

the site( Spectator) will feature a blog called Cockburn, a cousin to Steerpike in Britain.


https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/spectator-launches-new-us-website-which-promises-not-to-be-crazily-for-or-crazily-against-president-donald-trump/

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #9)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 02:24 AM

53. Caution is in order.

This might all be solid stuff .. but it reads a bit like a gossip piece.
Cockburn hears that investigators for the House Intelligence Committee know this whole tale and the identities of some of the people telling it. Whether any of is true is another matter but Adam Schiff certainly seems to be smiling a lot these days
.

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Response to stopdiggin (Reply #53)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 09:48 AM

69. What you said. But....

Remember Pizzagate? And the Bolling Green Massacre?
I'm not suggesting going as low as the RWNJs, but what's wrong with a little speculation?
Cockburn is all over the map, but he's not making shit up out of whole cloth.

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Response to albacore (Reply #69)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 02:39 PM

86. fake news and lunatic fringe stuff

is the reason I think we need to be cautious. We do ourselves no favors by trafficking in crap. It just makes us look as ridiculous and ill informed as the right.

(and note that I'm not calling this story crap. just exercising a little reserve until I see more confirmation)

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 08:16 PM

10. K&R for exposure

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 08:22 PM

11. KR

Wow.

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 08:28 PM

12. Whoa. Dude. Wow. K&R

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 08:31 PM

13. Damn. I'm not shocked, but absolutely disgusted and beyond if this is true.

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 08:32 PM

14. WOW. This might be the biggest thing that has happened. Hope it can all be proven.

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 08:35 PM

15. Trump sent Barr on a world wide mission to take down the US Intelligence Community

as traitors/deceivers, etc

Trump has been running them since before his first official meeting with Putin.

When he accuses Obama of spying on him in 2016-7, how does that reflect on the US Intelligence Community?

The US Intelligence Community stands between Trump and stealing the 2020 election.

Etc

Would it shock anyone that the US Intelligence Community would be hard at work to protect itself, clear its name and produce a bunch of the evidence that exposes this criminal traitor for what he is?

One has to be careful of who he makes enemies with ...

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 08:36 PM

16. While I would not be surprised

at the depravity of the Trump/Kushner family, I don't think there is any corroboration that this is true.

If it IS true and they have proof of it... he needs to go to jail for the rest of his life.

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Response to Dorian Gray (Reply #16)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 10:10 PM

35. So if it is true, do you think MBS is going to throw Jared under the bus or vice versa?

Jared and Trump are in this up to their eyeballs. Didn't MBS bail out Jared's building to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars? And what was MBS reason for doing so? Just because he liked Jared? Sounds like a quid pro quo to me. Jared needed money and Jared was willing to swap some of our most top secret information to MBS in exchange for MBS bailing Jared out of the mountain of debt he had amassed, with no way of paying it back. Throwing Kashoggi to the Saudi wolves was just a business transaction as far as these killers are concerned. I hope all of Jared's secrets are soon revealed and he is convicted for his treasonous acts and sentenced to rot in hell. And he can take his Father-in-Law with him; assuming he not in jail for his own crimes.

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Response to politicaljunkie41910 (Reply #35)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 09:23 AM

67. I have wondered why

there had been no word of how Jared got the $billions that he needed to pay of 666 5th Avenue. Another "quid Pro Quo"
deal? Supposedly given to Jared by Brooklyn Properties owned by Qatar.

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Response to disndat (Reply #67)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 11:20 AM

80. Is that when he got his loan from Justice Kennedy's son at Deutsche?

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 08:42 PM

17. I'm in awe of the amount of information and intelligent discussion that happens on DU. So many

incredibly knowledgeable participants. Keep up the good work.

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 08:46 PM

19. K&R...

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 08:59 PM

20. I couldn't figure out what Erdogan had on Trump

This is probably the truth....Just hoping that it will come out on live TV so we can remove all the trump garbage out of the White House.

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 09:04 PM

21. It's all very believable

 

We need to get those criminals out!

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 09:06 PM

22. These people killed someone because of their f**king mouths. There is a reason why...

people are investigated for security clearances. Kushner should be charged w/ murder.

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Response to SWBTATTReg (Reply #22)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 09:43 PM

32. And funny isn't it that Kushner was somehow bailed out of the billion dollar debt...

he owed on 666 5th Ave? Did he trade info for financial help?

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Response to brush (Reply #32)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 11:24 AM

82. Good, very good point. I didn't think of this, but it is very curious! A good catch on your part!

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 09:09 PM

23. these motherfuckers need to go asap. we need to show with protests an activism that ANYone

voting against impeachment and then conviction will lose their jobs.

they need to see the activism before the big votes and before they get started with their obstruction tactics.

where are the progressive orgs?

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 09:13 PM

24. Jared did a similar thing before. He gave MBS intelligence on dissident royal family members.

That resulted in MBS rounding up those royal family members--his own relatives--and proceeded to torture them, shake them down for all their money, and in some instances kill them. And of course, not a peep from the Trump administration about that either.

https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2018/10/22/1806322/-Kushner-gave-the-Saudi-Crown-Prince-a-hit-list-of-enemies-from-US-intel-including-Khashoggi

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #24)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 11:02 PM

43. I know! How is this not on every front page until

there is an investigation and arrest? It's stunning that espionage goes on as though it is normal and it is not. I know our news media is broken, but seriously?

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 09:23 PM

27. Kick

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 09:26 PM

28. Stunning

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 09:30 PM

29. These pieces of shit better see cuffs

If this is what is coming out to the public, the Intel people must have some damning info. We’ll see how much them god fearin’ folks tolerate before they realize they been punked hard.

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 09:31 PM

30. kick

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 09:38 PM

31. wow....just

OMG...

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 09:48 PM

33. K&R

This cabal must be removed from office.

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 10:46 PM

38. holy shit... if any of that is even remotely true, kushner is gonig down as an accessory to murder

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 10:58 PM

40. This story about Kushner is not entirely new

In Death, Khashoggi Exposes the Corruption of Kushner and Trump NOV 17, 2018

Last October, Jared Kushner paid an unannounced visit to Riyadh, where it’s reported that he stayed up until the wee hours talking “strategy” with the crown prince, apparently his new BFF. He allegedly gave MbS an “enemies list” culled from the classified president’s daily brief, which MbS seems to have used the following month to purge disloyal relatives from government and take their money. Also last October, Kushner’s company received a $57 million loan from Fortress Investment Group, which was recently purchased by SoftFund, a Saudi investment concern, to bail out its troubled property at One Journal Square in Jersey City. (A larger and more widely-reported loan, to bail out the troubled property at 666 Fifth Avenue, came the following summer, via Qatar.)

There is a term for the exchange of U.S. intelligence — or, worse, policy — for money. The term is espionage. It is punishable by death.


I fully admit avoiding details of much going on since the election (I know, it's embarrassing, but for sanity reasons...) yet this story has slept in the background for a YEAR. Why has no one in the press loudly followed up on potential espionage until now, for goodness sake?

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Response to crickets (Reply #40)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 10:59 PM

42. +1

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Response to crickets (Reply #40)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 11:14 PM

45. Yep. Kushner is a spy for MBS.

MBS bragged about having Kushner "in my pocket." Kushner should not only NOT have a security clearance, he should be on trial for spying.

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Sun Nov 3, 2019, 11:24 PM

46. I figured it was Kushner who gave up Khashoggi...

...but I never guessed about Erdogan's blackmail call. Should have.

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Mon Nov 4, 2019, 01:18 AM

50. Seems like a thing he'd enjoy.

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Mon Nov 4, 2019, 12:37 AM

49. 🚨 K&R

Is our very democracy not at stake now?

These people have committed treason. This is the biggest bombshell ever and explains why some information is not being turned over to Adam Schiff.

How will this country handle it?
Will the mainstream press publish this information?
Murder has been committed, aided and abetted by Trump and Kushner; hundreds of Kurds have lost their lives because of this; hard-fought foreign policy has been destroyed. This is undoubtedly treason.
Will Trump, Kushner, Barr, and others be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law?
If not, this is not a country of laws and is no longer a democracy.

Impeachment is not enough, removal from office is not enough. Even if it means tearing this country apart, as did the Civil War, these people, including Trump, must be prosecuted and imprisoned.


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Mon Nov 4, 2019, 03:04 AM

54. sickening

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Mon Nov 4, 2019, 03:26 AM

55. This is terrible and if they have this info then it's the most damning so far nt

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Mon Nov 4, 2019, 05:29 AM

58. Holy Shiite!

Seriously- there is no bottom to this criminal enterprise.

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Mon Nov 4, 2019, 07:30 AM

60. Horrific, but not surprising. I'd heard much of the Kushner stuff before, but

the big piece which is new to me, is the piece about Erdogan using the Kushner/MBS call as leverage to force Trump on leaving Syria. But it all makes sense IMO.

I don't want this hidden. I want all the secrets exposed.

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Mon Nov 4, 2019, 07:50 AM

62. So, tRump blackmailed by Turkey re tRump gang crimes re Kashoggi. On top of extorting Ukraine. . nt

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Mon Nov 4, 2019, 08:24 AM

64. Damn, I called it right!

I said that Edrogan gave up his evidence of Kushner's part in the murder in return for drumpf letting him push out and kill the Kurds. Well. I did equivocate. I said it was either that or he threatened drumpf tower. My first thought was correct.

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Mon Nov 4, 2019, 09:33 AM

68. So Kushner sold out Khashoggi to Crown Prince MBS and Erdogan used this knowledge to get Trump ...

... to flip and hand over the Northern Syria and the Kurds to the Trurks and Russians?

Treason, murder, blackmail, and selling out or allies, the Kurds by Kushner/Trump.

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Mon Nov 4, 2019, 09:58 AM

72. tRump will blame this all on Kushner,

And throw him smack dab under the bus.

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Mon Nov 4, 2019, 09:59 AM

73. Not sure how reliable a source

Cockburn is.

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Mon Nov 4, 2019, 10:32 AM

74. Most upsetting news of the day. I hope CNN has this.

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Mon Nov 4, 2019, 10:47 AM

75. Holy shit! K&R

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Mon Nov 4, 2019, 10:47 AM

76. OMG!!!!!!!!!!! nt

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Mon Nov 4, 2019, 11:09 AM

78. Verrry interestink.

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Mon Nov 4, 2019, 11:24 AM

81. I posted something about this yesterday or the day before (don't recall).

This doesn't surprise me at all.

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Mon Nov 4, 2019, 02:36 PM

85. Daily Kos member urges caution:

An urgent request/warning to the denizens of Daily Kos:
(UPDATE x2) Down the rabbit hole we go: Caution on Kushner/Turkey blackmail story

Bob Johnson
Please exercise an abundance of caution on the Kushner/Khashoggi/Turkey blackmail story.

To be honest, I will be surprised if there is any truth to this story, namely because the Washington Post and The New York Times have highly-developed sources on whistleblowers within this administration, and neither paper has even hinted at a story like this.

As noted in the original piece that now sits atop the Rec list, the Daily Mail story is based on a piece by the Cockburn blog in The Spectator. (“Cockburn” is the name of the blog. It is a D.C.-based blog for The Spectator’s U.S. version. There is no single author for the blog, according to The Spectator.)

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/11/4/1897064/-Down-the-rabbit-hole-we-go-Caution-on-Kushner-Turkey-blackmail-story

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Mon Nov 4, 2019, 02:48 PM

87. Thank You! -- CAUTION here! -- (nt)

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 03:03 PM

89. Potentially bigger than the Ukraine scandal.

This could really blow up.

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Mon Nov 4, 2019, 03:07 PM

90. This is what Republicans really mean by "family values"

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