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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump allegedly got his Ukraine conspiracy theory from the Russia-tied criminals on his campaign
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/11/04/surprise-trump-allegedly-got-his-ukraine-conspiracy-theory-russia-tied-criminals-his-campaign/?tid=sm_tw
By Aaron Blake
November 4, 2019 at 10:21 a.m. EST
The fact that the two biggest controversies of the Trump presidency have revolved around Russia and Ukraine two former Soviet republics in a state of perpetual conflict might have seemed like a strange coincidence.
More and more, were learning it's not.
A trove of documents from Robert S. Mueller IIIs Russia investigation released over the weekend show that Trumps Ukraine conspiracy theory appears to have been propagated by two top aides who were central figures in the special counsels investigation: Paul Manafort and Michael Flynn. The conspiracy theory also was apparently fertilized by Manafort associate Konstantin Kilimnik.
The three of them appear to have played a role in convincing Trump that Russia did not actually interfere in the 2016 U.S. presidential election, despite what both Mueller and the U.S. intelligence community have concluded, and that it was actually Ukraine. Trump and his personal lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani have since set about trying to get Ukraine to investigate the allegations, including by allegedly leveraging hundreds of millions of dollars in military aid and a much-sought Oval Office meeting for Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. The alleged corrupt quid pro quos are now at the center of the Houses impeachment inquiry of Trump.
To recap, thats three people with controversial ties to Russia, two of whom are convicted criminals (Manafort and Flynn) and another who has been indicted (Kilimnik). Trump is apparently trying to prove their theory, to this day.
Rick Gates, a former Manafort deputy and Trump campaign aide, told investigators that the three of them were pushing the theory to Trump. According to the newly released Mueller documents, Gates told investigators that Flynn was adamant the Russians did not carry out the hack and that Flynn told Trump that U.S. intelligence was not capable of figuring it out. He also said that Manafort said the hack of Democratic emails was likely carried out by the Ukrainians, not the Russians. And Gates said Manaforts theory was parroted from Kilimnik, who also opined the hack could have been perpetrated by Russian operatives in Ukraine.
Gates pleaded guilty to lying to investigators before he began cooperating with Muellers team.
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By Aaron Blake
November 4, 2019 at 10:21 a.m. EST
The fact that the two biggest controversies of the Trump presidency have revolved around Russia and Ukraine two former Soviet republics in a state of perpetual conflict might have seemed like a strange coincidence.
More and more, were learning it's not.
A trove of documents from Robert S. Mueller IIIs Russia investigation released over the weekend show that Trumps Ukraine conspiracy theory appears to have been propagated by two top aides who were central figures in the special counsels investigation: Paul Manafort and Michael Flynn. The conspiracy theory also was apparently fertilized by Manafort associate Konstantin Kilimnik.
The three of them appear to have played a role in convincing Trump that Russia did not actually interfere in the 2016 U.S. presidential election, despite what both Mueller and the U.S. intelligence community have concluded, and that it was actually Ukraine. Trump and his personal lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani have since set about trying to get Ukraine to investigate the allegations, including by allegedly leveraging hundreds of millions of dollars in military aid and a much-sought Oval Office meeting for Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. The alleged corrupt quid pro quos are now at the center of the Houses impeachment inquiry of Trump.
To recap, thats three people with controversial ties to Russia, two of whom are convicted criminals (Manafort and Flynn) and another who has been indicted (Kilimnik). Trump is apparently trying to prove their theory, to this day.
Rick Gates, a former Manafort deputy and Trump campaign aide, told investigators that the three of them were pushing the theory to Trump. According to the newly released Mueller documents, Gates told investigators that Flynn was adamant the Russians did not carry out the hack and that Flynn told Trump that U.S. intelligence was not capable of figuring it out. He also said that Manafort said the hack of Democratic emails was likely carried out by the Ukrainians, not the Russians. And Gates said Manaforts theory was parroted from Kilimnik, who also opined the hack could have been perpetrated by Russian operatives in Ukraine.
Gates pleaded guilty to lying to investigators before he began cooperating with Muellers team.
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How many rank and file republicans fell for it as well?? We really need to flush the whole lot of them...
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Trump allegedly got his Ukraine conspiracy theory from the Russia-tied criminals on his campaign (Original Post)
Dennis Donovan
Nov 2019
OP
Turbineguy
(37,324 posts)1. Hoist on his own petard.
Learned zero from the birther bullshit.