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Eugene

(61,843 posts)
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 12:03 PM Nov 2019

Hillary Clinton: Zuckerberg should pay price for damage to democracy

Source: The Guardian

Hillary Clinton: Zuckerberg should pay price for damage to democracy

Former presidential candidate criticises Facebook’s decision to let politicians lie in adverts

Carole Cadwalladr
@carolecadwalla
Mon 4 Nov 2019 13.00 GMT
Last modified on Mon 4 Nov 2019 14.13 GMT

Mark Zuckerberg “should pay a price” for what he is doing to democracy, Hillary Clinton has said, as she expressed doubts about whether free and fair elections were even possible in the wake of Facebook’s decision to not factcheck political advertising.

Speaking in New York at a screening of The Great Hack, a Netflix documentary about the Cambridge Analytica scandal, the 2016 Democratic presidential candidate cited the threat to upcoming elections in both the US and UK as she made the damning remarks about Facebook’s decision to allow politicians to lie in adverts posted to its platform.

Her intervention comes amid speculation she may mount a third bid for the presidency.

She said it was inevitable that false information on Facebook would have an impact on elections “because propaganda works”. In 2016, she said fake news on Facebook that Pope Francis had endorsed her opponent, Donald Trump, “really did have an impact” and predicted “it’s only going to be more powerful going forward because it is more well tested. They know what they were successful at.”

She added: “And we are getting warning signals all the time about what is happening right now and how it is likely to affect our next election.”

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Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/nov/04/hillary-clinton-mark-zuckerberg-pay-price-damage-democracy
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Hillary Clinton: Zuckerberg should pay price for damage to democracy (Original Post) Eugene Nov 2019 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2019 #1
+1 pandr32 Nov 2019 #2
Is he making scads of cash and have the control of a despot? Then he does not CARE. efhmc Nov 2019 #3
He certainly is not making the world a better place. Baitball Blogger Nov 2019 #4
Wow! Not mincing words. triron Nov 2019 #5
I have stopped using Facebook EricaGriswoldAuthor Nov 2019 #6
Petition for Facebook to ban political ads Johnny2X2X Nov 2019 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2019 #9
I want to be part of the solution Johnny2X2X Nov 2019 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2019 #12
Thanks WA-03 Democrat Nov 2019 #10
NO liberals in the Bay Area? Not even 300??? WTF? maddiemom Nov 2019 #13
The poster's name indicates he lives nowhere near San Francisco... Hekate Nov 2019 #16
This! No individual or individual company crickets Nov 2019 #17
+1000000000000 triron Nov 2019 #8
Trump's Theresa Hong. Digital Platforms Botany Nov 2019 #14
+1 dalton99a Nov 2019 #19
Thanks for speaking forthrightly Hillary.. triron Nov 2019 #15
kick for visibility triron Nov 2019 #18
Yesterday i said.... OnDoutside Nov 2019 #20

Response to Eugene (Original post)

6. I have stopped using Facebook
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 12:16 PM
Nov 2019

I am not going to be 'oohhh! I'm better than you!!!I've never had a Facebook!" or "I've quit Facebook! I'm better than you people who still use it."

Look, I love seeing pictures of my friends kids and see them posting about new jobs, big new things happening in their life and all.

But, my gosh, that's not the majority of what I'm seeing on Facebook nowadays. It's mostly news and sharing political stuff. No wonder Gen Z isn't interested in joining. I can remember when Facebook had a Discussion tab in groups and how stupid everyone thought the like button was when it came out. I can remember when it was a SOCIAL NETWORK.

Johnny2X2X

(19,001 posts)
7. Petition for Facebook to ban political ads
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 12:21 PM
Nov 2019

Last edited Mon Nov 4, 2019, 01:07 PM - Edit history (1)

https://petitions.moveon.org/sign/facebook-youtube-ban

Wouldn't it be nice if Facebook got completely out of politics? Wouldn't it be nice to connect with friends and family without having to filter for their political beliefs?

I might start a petition of my own as I don't think Moveon will be seen as not biased.

Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #7)

Johnny2X2X

(19,001 posts)
11. I want to be part of the solution
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 01:13 PM
Nov 2019

I've thought of deleting FB, but I want to be part of our message on there. If I'm off FB, then it's just 1 less person helping to decipher and spread the truth.

Personally, I think FB would be happy to get out of politics, it's not as profitable for them as its worth.

Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #11)

WA-03 Democrat

(3,039 posts)
10. Thanks
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 12:42 PM
Nov 2019

Great idea just signed it. It would be great if we only had some liberals in the Bay Area that could create a flash mob in the FB parking lot in Menlo Park. 300 people could change history.

Hekate

(90,616 posts)
16. The poster's name indicates he lives nowhere near San Francisco...
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 03:58 PM
Nov 2019

So take his statements about same with a grain of salt.

Also, and not to be nitpicky or anything, but how in hell would a single flashmob in the parking lot change history? Sure, I'd go to such a protest if I didn't live 400 miles away, but it would be with the knowledge that Zuck himself really wouldn't give a damn.

What Zuck needs is a good dose of Teddy Roosevelt trustbusting -- in other words, stringent laws against his business practices.

crickets

(25,959 posts)
17. This! No individual or individual company
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 04:49 PM
Nov 2019

should have this level of influence over the electoral process without some sort of oversight or rules about what information (or lies) can be funneled through them, especially with the amount of money involved.

Botany

(70,476 posts)
14. Trump's Theresa Hong. Digital Platforms
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 03:06 PM
Nov 2019

We wouldn't have won without Facebook. Cambridge Analytica and the Russians pumped the lies into America and the Trump people used Facebook to spread them to selected people using algorithms. Zuck knew all about this scam.

OnDoutside

(19,949 posts)
20. Yesterday i said....
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 08:57 AM
Nov 2019
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=12652063

We need some Democrats to rant in public that Facebook is anti-American, and they'll come after them

to break Facebook up once Democrats are back in power.


Thank you Hillary !
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