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Context: He starts talking about Antifa. Then makes the hand sign. Intentional? I just took this pic a few minites ago.
Edit: OMG with what he was saying along with this sign...
If anyone knows how to find or make a video clip of that, please let me know.
Thanks dewsgirl for finding a clip
Link to tweet
The Polack MSgt
(13,186 posts)Ok, Yes he's signaling White Power obviously. His Klan Daddy, Klan Buddies and his own books show how much of a white supremist he has always been.
But he looks like a B-Movie Golem made from pumpkin pie filling
backtoblue
(11,343 posts)Even the "rallies supporters" at the bottom is crazy.
When I saw it, I went back to make sure I saw it right. Its pretty damn obvious imo, considering his words to go along with it.
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brush
(53,767 posts)Signaling to his brown shirts to get ready.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Who were veterans of the vicious trench fighting of WW1 and had seen and participated in slaughter like no American can imagine. And fought in the streets in an organized manner like they did in WW1.
The closest the alt-right has come was Charlottesville which was a cluster fuck and caught law authorizes unaware. And most of those guys are either in jail or living with their parents. It wont happen again.
The Brownshirts would look upon his fat-assed, chaotic followers with total revulsion.
brush
(53,767 posts)to the streets for himbikers, cops, alt-right nazis, even some in the military.
Curious how you paint the nazi brown shirts. IMO they were anti-Semitic thugs.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)That should be self apparent to anyone in DU. Or hell, any American.
But to compare our diverse society with with our well established norms of behavior to the Brownshirts is not a good analogy.
Their was no Democratic tradition in Germany in the 1920s. Force had been the entire determinant in their society and they had scant respect for democratic nations who had just defeated them in a war so brutal we cant understand it.
So in Bavaria it was possible for a political movement to establish a private army of brutal veterans who had killed on a scale we cant imagine and collectively blamed their loss in the war on the Jews.
But that is not at all analogous to our situation. Trump does not have a private army of disciplined, war veterans ready to march to his command. Even in my reddish community if a group of racist trump supporters decided to take up arms, the republican sheriff and his deputies would meet them with force. Not that it will ever happen. Most trump sticker emblazoned trucks here are driven by retirement age or close to it folks. Not at all like the real Brownshirts who were pretty much a private army.
My point was that comparing us to 1920s Germany is not a good analogy.
brush
(53,767 posts)trump has such a tenuous grip on reality that he apparently thinks that flashing a "white power" sign is enough to alert his "brown shirts" to get ready for action.
I didn't think I needed to add quotation marks around "brown shirts" as it should be self apparent to anyone in DU that it was a reference to trump's delusion that he has forces ready to heed his call to the streets when neededimagined forces of his and not literal comparisons by me to actual brown shirts.
Thanks for the lesson on German history though.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)But there are some folks here who fear there is an Army of racist just waiting to kill us all.
And given the history of this country I can understand their fear.
I again apologize if I misunderstood you.
Have a great evening.
I am listen to French Cajun music, sipping bourbon and reading DU. A perfect evening!
brush
(53,767 posts)lastlib
(23,216 posts)We know you're out there.
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Moostache
(9,895 posts)I am sure that SEAL team 6 is TERRIFIED...as are the US Marhsalls, the Secret Service, the FBI, CIA and NSA - ALL of which are getting PLENTY of reasons to despise the Demented Yam over the last 6 months...
He might want to be more cautious stirring THAT pot, especially when he is humiliating our military, berating our intelligence community and openly fighting the rest!
Captain Zero
(6,805 posts)The march into the wilderness, no doubt.
yonder
(9,663 posts)WheelWalker
(8,955 posts)JohnnyLib2
(11,211 posts)backtoblue
(11,343 posts)OldRed2450
(710 posts)Link to tweet
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bdamomma
(63,837 posts)ad did the russians put that out? Zuckerberg is a jerk.
tRump is a monster
I really wish someone in the media would do an in depth investigation on Zuckerburg. Theres something dark about him. The affable innocent schoolboy act he has going is BS.
WePurrsevere
(24,259 posts)certainly shouldn't be allowed on any social/media platform.
OldRed2450
(710 posts)Ohiogal
(31,979 posts)backtoblue
(11,343 posts)He is a f68cking nazi.
GopherGal
(2,008 posts)I would think the color in the photo was just off if it weren't for the contrast between his hand and his face. Did he work himself into a red/orange-faced rage? Fall asleep in the spray-tan booth?
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Skittles
(153,150 posts)yes INDEED
Maru Kitteh
(28,339 posts)Like - REALLY Greasy Melania.
live love laugh
(13,100 posts)Skittles
(153,150 posts)not just her face, but the way she walks, it just does not flow
dustyscamp
(2,224 posts)They harass, beat people up and commit murders
NoMoreRepugs
(9,413 posts)the WH lawn leaving for a golf foursome. I look forward to his answer. C'mon MSM, do your frickin' job.
backtoblue
(11,343 posts)Agree....media, I mean WTF?
usaf-vet
(6,181 posts)Obviously not. Please enlighten those of us who are not up to speed.
backtoblue
(11,343 posts)Have appropriated this as their "gang" sign.
fierywoman
(7,683 posts)IronLionZion
(45,430 posts)fierywoman
(7,683 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)You will see it in group shots of fraternities or police groups
I don't think Trump intended it, he is making that move all of the tine
Hekate
(90,645 posts)...he displays it so prominently and rigidly at forehead level that I feel he's just out-there adopted it -- the way he gave what was essentially a full-on White Power Rally when he was trying to get Bevin re-elected. Just the part I saw was horrible.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)If you were watching in real time you could barely see what exactly he was doing
He has some type of reading disability and when he is struggling to read he is constantly touching his thumb to his second or third finger.
In any case he doesn't conceal his intent. His policies reveal his racist objectives.
IronLionZion
(45,430 posts)usaf-vet
(6,181 posts)It fits perfectly for him. Let's make sure we all let him know.
This is what we all see "I am an + hand sign".
ms liberty
(8,573 posts)When you see it flashed by basketball players and/or fans during a game and a three point attempt has just been successful.
OMGWTF
(3,951 posts)mwooldri
(10,303 posts)Tech
(1,770 posts)Maybe, just maybe, he has a basketball game in a monitor in front of him.
Julian Englis
(2,309 posts)jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)They argue the facts that are in plain sight. Probably just playing the "circle game".
backtoblue
(11,343 posts)Surely the media has people watching for shit like this.
Hes inciting violence.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)I can't help but wonder if that wasn't some type of signal. There are no words to describe the feeling that gave me
It chilled me to my bones. .
backtoblue
(11,343 posts)Has anyone reported on it? It really seems like hes going scorched earth and full out inciting violence.
Julian Englis
(2,309 posts)backtoblue
(11,343 posts)Julian Englis
(2,309 posts)dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)shitshow evolve. Everyone knows what a unbalanced, unhinged, drug addicted sociopath he is. This monster has the nuclear codes. I don't know of anything that could be done, short of the military stepping in and that won't happen.
ElementaryPenguin
(7,800 posts)The "skinny arms" bit was an obvious cover for what he knows he's doing!
What a dangerous, sick fuck we have in the White House.
This white supremacist traitor needs to go!
Impeach, indict, imprison.
Lock him up!
boomer_wv
(673 posts)Hard to tell the difference between his racism and stupidity at times.
For myself, I have used that sign all my life as both "OK" and to signal 3. I'm not going to stop now just because some 8chan virgins started using it for something else. Screw those guys.
jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)...whether you choose to acknowledge that or not.
boomer_wv
(673 posts)That's exactly where it started and I'm not going to let them claim any damn thing they want to.
What's next? I can't wear a polo shirt or khakis? I can't eat breakfast cereal? I started going bald a few years ago so now I shave my head; that out too?
These guys are by and large just dorks who sit in their basements playing online video games all the time and shitposting on 8chan.. They're dangerous, sure. 8chan can be linked to lots of mass shootings over the past few years, including Christchurch, El Paso, the Garlic Festival, etc.
The things that fuel these guys, however, is showing that they can have some influence on the larger world and not just their narrow sphere. Being able to make people stop using the "OK" sign, is just that type of thing. Look how strong we are, look at our power level! They sit around all day and dream about what they can do to get a rise out of the liberals.
I for one am not going to play that game.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)You are however, being informed (accurately) as to a new and directly relevant meaning of that particular usage (usage... not a 'game', but language usage).
My own refusal to use it in the here and now gives no one power, it merely indicates that I'm a) aware of usage, and b) predicated on that, not going out of my way to consciously provoke anyone or illustrate my own vulgarity.
So rejoice, and eat whatever cereal you want. No one is taking that away from you, just pointing out that Sambo's restaurants went bankrupt in 1982 for the same justifications you cite .
Are giving them power.
C Moon
(12,212 posts)His night of the long knives.
mountain grammy
(26,619 posts)brewens
(13,574 posts)backtoblue
(11,343 posts)dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)Not human