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backtoblue

(11,258 posts)
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 09:16 PM Nov 2019

He just did this...

Last edited Thu Nov 7, 2019, 01:08 AM - Edit history (1)

Context: He starts talking about Antifa. Then makes the hand sign. Intentional? I just took this pic a few minites ago.

Edit: OMG with what he was saying along with this sign...

If anyone knows how to find or make a video clip of that, please let me know.






Thanks dewsgirl for finding a clip


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He just did this... (Original Post) backtoblue Nov 2019 OP
Holy Shit look at that guy The Polack MSgt Nov 2019 #1
It's chilling backtoblue Nov 2019 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2019 #31
He's going all-in to his followers, openly. He's scared and desperate. brush Nov 2019 #2
Only he had no brown shirts. GulfCoast66 Nov 2019 #13
He's telegraphed messages before to those he thinks will take... brush Nov 2019 #23
Is anything I said about the Brownshirts wrong? I did not think I needed to add they were evil. GulfCoast66 Nov 2019 #34
You seriously think that's what I was doing? brush Nov 2019 #49
I apologize for misunderstanding your meaning GulfCoast66 Nov 2019 #52
No problem. Take a sip for me, GulfCoast. brush Nov 2019 #54
"It won't happen again." lastlib Nov 2019 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2019 #32
Trump's "militias" look more like this: Moostache Nov 2019 #30
That schlub in the tank top is chowing down on something as he walks there. Captain Zero Nov 2019 #60
Bonafide ___________? yonder Nov 2019 #3
He's showing his bona fides WheelWalker Nov 2019 #6
Where is he? He's not in Louisville tonight. JohnnyLib2 Nov 2019 #7
Monroe, Louisiana backtoblue Nov 2019 #9
He's trying to incite violence. OldRed2450 Nov 2019 #5
That FB bdamomma Nov 2019 #14
+1 MontanaMama Nov 2019 #55
If I saw that I'd report it & block it. It's inciting violence and WePurrsevere Nov 2019 #17
Article about it OldRed2450 Nov 2019 #25
He looks like a goddam monster. Ohiogal Nov 2019 #8
I hope someone records this with the words backtoblue Nov 2019 #10
The (tiny) white hand just emphasizes how off his facial skin tone is. GopherGal Nov 2019 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2019 #33
in that picture he looks like Melania Skittles Nov 2019 #11
Um, Greasy Melania. Maru Kitteh Nov 2019 #37
And Melania looks like an alien 👽 nt live love laugh Nov 2019 #68
there is something extemely unnatural about her Skittles Nov 2019 #69
So what about the Altright? dustyscamp Nov 2019 #12
A reporter needs to ask him about this next time he's on NoMoreRepugs Nov 2019 #15
Surely someone else noticed this backtoblue Nov 2019 #16
I must admit i am not up to speed on this apparent hand signal or gesture. It looks like an OK sign. usaf-vet Nov 2019 #18
White supremist, Proud Boys, etc backtoblue Nov 2019 #19
In Mexico, at least in the late 70s, early 80s, it meant asshole. fierywoman Nov 2019 #20
And American Sign Language IronLionZion Nov 2019 #29
Wow! fierywoman Nov 2019 #46
It's a white supremacist hand signal that Nazis work into photos to broadcast their WS identity. grantcart Nov 2019 #24
It may have started out as one of his random meaningless hand gestures, but in that pic... Hekate Nov 2019 #36
I just saw a video and he was waving his hand grantcart Nov 2019 #59
white power groups adopted it IronLionZion Nov 2019 #27
So based on answers to my original question. Trump's use will always be "I am an + hand sign" usaf-vet Nov 2019 #61
The only time this is now unquestioningly benign is ms liberty Nov 2019 #62
I believe that means "asshole" in ASL. OMGWTF Nov 2019 #21
Correct. But who is he signing to? NT mwooldri Nov 2019 #50
Benefit of the doubt Tech Nov 2019 #22
Why isnt this breakig? He might as well just declare himself for the KKK! n/t Julian Englis Nov 2019 #35
Just like everything else jcgoldie Nov 2019 #38
I cant believe no one has noticed this yet backtoblue Nov 2019 #39
That was so obviously intentional, timed with the word Antifa dewsgirl Nov 2019 #40
I havent posted this stillshot anywhere else backtoblue Nov 2019 #41
I sent it to muliple people and posted it on twittre. n/t Julian Englis Nov 2019 #42
Thanks backtoblue Nov 2019 #43
No, thank you for posting this. Julian Englis Nov 2019 #44
Did you see the video? dewsgirl Nov 2019 #64
Who would they report it to? We have all watched this insane dewsgirl Nov 2019 #45
I agree. Absolutely deliberate. President is flashing white power signs!!!! ElementaryPenguin Nov 2019 #63
maybe boomer_wv Nov 2019 #47
The gesture has meaning now outside the context of "8chan virgins" jcgoldie Nov 2019 #51
I don't care. boomer_wv Nov 2019 #57
No one is instructing you what you may or may not do or wear. Pretending as such is silly. LanternWaste Nov 2019 #67
You boomer_wv Nov 2019 #70
I think that ultimately, he wants them to go after Democratic politicians. C Moon Nov 2019 #48
He looks roasted. Damn, he's a sick fuck. mountain grammy Nov 2019 #53
He must have been extra splotchy, his spray tan guy put on an extra coat. n/t brewens Nov 2019 #56
Adding video clip (TY dewsgirl) backtoblue Nov 2019 #58
By all means, more people need to see this. dewsgirl Nov 2019 #65
POS Baked Potato Nov 2019 #66

The Polack MSgt

(13,079 posts)
1. Holy Shit look at that guy
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 09:22 PM
Nov 2019

Ok, Yes he's signaling White Power obviously. His Klan Daddy, Klan Buddies and his own books show how much of a white supremist he has always been.

But he looks like a B-Movie Golem made from pumpkin pie filling

backtoblue

(11,258 posts)
4. It's chilling
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 09:26 PM
Nov 2019

Even the "rallies supporters" at the bottom is crazy.

When I saw it, I went back to make sure I saw it right. Its pretty damn obvious imo, considering his words to go along with it.

Response to The Polack MSgt (Reply #1)

brush

(52,939 posts)
2. He's going all-in to his followers, openly. He's scared and desperate.
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 09:23 PM
Nov 2019

Signaling to his brown shirts to get ready.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
13. Only he had no brown shirts.
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 09:49 PM
Nov 2019

Who were veterans of the vicious trench fighting of WW1 and had seen and participated in slaughter like no American can imagine. And fought in the streets in an organized manner like they did in WW1.

The closest the alt-right has come was Charlottesville which was a cluster fuck and caught law authorizes unaware. And most of those guys are either in jail or living with their parents. It won’t happen again.

The Brownshirts would look upon his fat-assed, chaotic followers with total revulsion.

brush

(52,939 posts)
23. He's telegraphed messages before to those he thinks will take...
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 10:30 PM
Nov 2019

to the streets for him—bikers, cops, alt-right nazis, even some in the military.

Curious how you paint the nazi brown shirts. IMO they were anti-Semitic thugs.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
34. Is anything I said about the Brownshirts wrong? I did not think I needed to add they were evil.
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 10:56 PM
Nov 2019

That should be self apparent to anyone in DU. Or hell, any American.

But to compare our diverse society with with our well established norms of behavior to the Brownshirts is not a good analogy.

Their was no Democratic tradition in Germany in the 1920’s. Force had been the entire determinant in their society and they had scant respect for democratic nations who had just defeated them in a war so brutal we can’t understand it.

So in Bavaria it was possible for a political movement to establish a private army of brutal veterans who had killed on a scale we can’t imagine and collectively blamed their loss in the war on the Jews.

But that is not at all analogous to our situation. Trump does not have a private army of disciplined, war veterans ready to march to his command. Even in my reddish community if a group of racist trump supporters decided to take up arms, the republican sheriff and his deputies would meet them with force. Not that it will ever happen. Most trump sticker emblazoned trucks here are driven by retirement age or close to it folks. Not at all like the real Brownshirts who were pretty much a private army.

My point was that comparing us to 1920’s Germany is not a good analogy.





brush

(52,939 posts)
49. You seriously think that's what I was doing?
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 11:44 PM
Nov 2019

trump has such a tenuous grip on reality that he apparently thinks that flashing a "white power" sign is enough to alert his "brown shirts" to get ready for action.

I didn't think I needed to add quotation marks around "brown shirts" as it should be self apparent to anyone in DU that it was a reference to trump's delusion that he has forces ready to heed his call to the streets when needed—imagined forces of his and not literal comparisons by me to actual brown shirts.

Thanks for the lesson on German history though.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
52. I apologize for misunderstanding your meaning
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 11:54 PM
Nov 2019

But there are some folks here who fear there is an Army of racist just waiting to kill us all.

And given the history of this country I can understand their fear.

I again apologize if I misunderstood you.

Have a great evening.

I am listen to French Cajun music, sipping bourbon and reading DU. A perfect evening!

Response to lastlib (Reply #28)

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
30. Trump's "militias" look more like this:
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 10:39 PM
Nov 2019
'

I am sure that SEAL team 6 is TERRIFIED...as are the US Marhsalls, the Secret Service, the FBI, CIA and NSA - ALL of which are getting PLENTY of reasons to despise the Demented Yam over the last 6 months...

He might want to be more cautious stirring THAT pot, especially when he is humiliating our military, berating our intelligence community and openly fighting the rest!

Captain Zero

(6,655 posts)
60. That schlub in the tank top is chowing down on something as he walks there.
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 05:18 AM
Nov 2019

The march into the wilderness, no doubt.

MontanaMama

(23,163 posts)
55. +1
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 12:11 AM
Nov 2019

I really wish someone in the media would do an in depth investigation on Zuckerburg. There’s something dark about him. The affable innocent schoolboy act he has going is BS.

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
17. If I saw that I'd report it & block it. It's inciting violence and
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 10:20 PM
Nov 2019

certainly shouldn't be allowed on any social/media platform.

GopherGal

(1,975 posts)
26. The (tiny) white hand just emphasizes how off his facial skin tone is.
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 10:35 PM
Nov 2019

I would think the color in the photo was just off if it weren't for the contrast between his hand and his face. Did he work himself into a red/orange-faced rage? Fall asleep in the spray-tan booth?

Response to GopherGal (Reply #26)

Skittles

(152,871 posts)
69. there is something extemely unnatural about her
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 08:12 PM
Nov 2019

not just her face, but the way she walks, it just does not flow

NoMoreRepugs

(9,149 posts)
15. A reporter needs to ask him about this next time he's on
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 10:11 PM
Nov 2019

the WH lawn leaving for a golf foursome. I look forward to his answer. C'mon MSM, do your frickin' job.

usaf-vet

(6,001 posts)
18. I must admit i am not up to speed on this apparent hand signal or gesture. It looks like an OK sign.
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 10:21 PM
Nov 2019

Obviously not. Please enlighten those of us who are not up to speed.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
24. It's a white supremacist hand signal that Nazis work into photos to broadcast their WS identity.
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 10:30 PM
Nov 2019


You will see it in group shots of fraternities or police groups

I don't think Trump intended it, he is making that move all of the tine

Hekate

(89,703 posts)
36. It may have started out as one of his random meaningless hand gestures, but in that pic...
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 11:10 PM
Nov 2019

...he displays it so prominently and rigidly at forehead level that I feel he's just out-there adopted it -- the way he gave what was essentially a full-on White Power Rally when he was trying to get Bevin re-elected. Just the part I saw was horrible.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
59. I just saw a video and he was waving his hand
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 05:04 AM
Nov 2019

If you were watching in real time you could barely see what exactly he was doing

He has some type of reading disability and when he is struggling to read he is constantly touching his thumb to his second or third finger.

In any case he doesn't conceal his intent. His policies reveal his racist objectives.

usaf-vet

(6,001 posts)
61. So based on answers to my original question. Trump's use will always be "I am an + hand sign"
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 06:38 AM
Nov 2019

It fits perfectly for him. Let's make sure we all let him know.

This is what we all see "I am an + hand sign".

ms liberty

(8,389 posts)
62. The only time this is now unquestioningly benign is
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 06:40 AM
Nov 2019

When you see it flashed by basketball players and/or fans during a game and a three point attempt has just been successful.

jcgoldie

(11,536 posts)
38. Just like everything else
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 11:13 PM
Nov 2019

They argue the facts that are in plain sight. Probably just playing the "circle game".

backtoblue

(11,258 posts)
39. I cant believe no one has noticed this yet
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 11:13 PM
Nov 2019

Surely the media has people watching for shit like this.

Hes inciting violence.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
40. That was so obviously intentional, timed with the word Antifa
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 11:13 PM
Nov 2019

I can't help but wonder if that wasn't some type of signal. There are no words to describe the feeling that gave me
It chilled me to my bones. .

backtoblue

(11,258 posts)
41. I havent posted this stillshot anywhere else
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 11:17 PM
Nov 2019

Has anyone reported on it? It really seems like hes going scorched earth and full out inciting violence.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
45. Who would they report it to? We have all watched this insane
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 11:25 PM
Nov 2019

shitshow evolve. Everyone knows what a unbalanced, unhinged, drug addicted sociopath he is. This monster has the nuclear codes. I don't know of anything that could be done, short of the military stepping in and that won't happen.

ElementaryPenguin

(7,800 posts)
63. I agree. Absolutely deliberate. President is flashing white power signs!!!!
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 07:22 AM
Nov 2019

The "skinny arms" bit was an obvious cover for what he knows he's doing!

What a dangerous, sick fuck we have in the White House.

This white supremacist traitor needs to go!

Impeach, indict, imprison.

Lock him up!

 

boomer_wv

(673 posts)
47. maybe
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 11:35 PM
Nov 2019

Hard to tell the difference between his racism and stupidity at times.

For myself, I have used that sign all my life as both "OK" and to signal 3. I'm not going to stop now just because some 8chan virgins started using it for something else. Screw those guys.

jcgoldie

(11,536 posts)
51. The gesture has meaning now outside the context of "8chan virgins"
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 11:47 PM
Nov 2019

...whether you choose to acknowledge that or not.

 

boomer_wv

(673 posts)
57. I don't care.
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 12:16 AM
Nov 2019

That's exactly where it started and I'm not going to let them claim any damn thing they want to.

What's next? I can't wear a polo shirt or khakis? I can't eat breakfast cereal? I started going bald a few years ago so now I shave my head; that out too?

These guys are by and large just dorks who sit in their basements playing online video games all the time and shitposting on 8chan.. They're dangerous, sure. 8chan can be linked to lots of mass shootings over the past few years, including Christchurch, El Paso, the Garlic Festival, etc.

The things that fuel these guys, however, is showing that they can have some influence on the larger world and not just their narrow sphere. Being able to make people stop using the "OK" sign, is just that type of thing. Look how strong we are, look at our power level! They sit around all day and dream about what they can do to get a rise out of the liberals.

I for one am not going to play that game.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
67. No one is instructing you what you may or may not do or wear. Pretending as such is silly.
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 12:26 PM
Nov 2019

You are however, being informed (accurately) as to a new and directly relevant meaning of that particular usage (usage... not a 'game', but language usage).

My own refusal to use it in the here and now gives no one power, it merely indicates that I'm a) aware of usage, and b) predicated on that, not going out of my way to consciously provoke anyone or illustrate my own vulgarity.

So rejoice, and eat whatever cereal you want. No one is taking that away from you, just pointing out that Sambo's restaurants went bankrupt in 1982 for the same justifications you cite .

C Moon

(12,161 posts)
48. I think that ultimately, he wants them to go after Democratic politicians.
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 11:37 PM
Nov 2019

His night of the long knives.

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