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Yavin4

(35,438 posts)
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 10:44 PM Nov 2019

Frank Sinatra once told Donald Trump to "go f*** himself"

Don't know if this was posted already, but I just found it:

Frank Sinatra told Donald Trump to “go f*** himself” after the now-President took issue with the singer’s financial demands, a new book has claimed.

Old Blue Eyes was due to perform at the opening of Mr Trump’s Atlantic City casino in 1990 when the magnate was said to have told him his costs were “a little rich”. On hearing the news, Sinatra gave his manager Elliot Weisman - who has written the new book - two options, either to pass his message to Mr Trump or give him his number and he would do it himself.

According to Weisman’s book, Mr Trump also cut the support acts including Sinatra’s dying friend Sammy Davis Jr.


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/frank-sinatra-donald-trump-new-book-f-himself-revealed-casino-a7988666.html
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Frank Sinatra once told Donald Trump to "go f*** himself" (Original Post) Yavin4 Nov 2019 OP
Always Cheap Me. Nov 2019 #1
I can hear Frank now... 50 Shades Of Blue Nov 2019 #2
I can't watch it...I'd laugh too hard.. Maxheader Nov 2019 #31
Frank knew a criminal when he saw one. roamer65 Nov 2019 #3
Frank Sinatra was a bad ass. Trump is just an ass. Initech Nov 2019 #4
Heehee FirstLight Nov 2019 #6
I have a new-found respect for Frank Sinatra. smirkymonkey Nov 2019 #5
Sinatra was a gangster? Stinky The Clown Nov 2019 #9
No, but he knew a few gangsters Clash City Rocker Nov 2019 #12
He had well known ties to the mafia.nt. drray23 Nov 2019 #13
Wasn't he supposed to be the singer in the Godfather novel? nt Wounded Bear Nov 2019 #26
"Johnny Fontane." Yes, the character was modeled after Sinatra. Nt raccoon Nov 2019 #27
I suck at names, but I remember the role...nt Wounded Bear Nov 2019 #29
I think he was. Wasn't he? smirkymonkey Nov 2019 #14
lol Cha Nov 2019 #23
He was a bag man underpants Nov 2019 #30
Mira Lansky? rsdsharp Nov 2019 #35
Meyer Lansky underpants Nov 2019 #36
I think they are both cut-throats, but Sinatra had talent Beringia Nov 2019 #7
Francis Albert Sinatra was more "mobbed-up" than Donnie back then. VOX Nov 2019 #8
And whose legs did he have broken? Stinky The Clown Nov 2019 #10
You obviously don't understnd the definition of "Could" SixString Nov 2019 #15
Oh stop. That post's implication was clear. Now back it up with facts. Stinky The Clown Nov 2019 #19
No thanks, Stink. SixString Nov 2019 #22
The Chairman had more badass in his pinkie than Trump in his entire girth... Moostache Nov 2019 #11
He knew gangsters and even worked for them. Norbert Nov 2019 #16
Sure. SixString Nov 2019 #17
Yes, but did he go through with it? Norbert Nov 2019 #25
If you performed in Vegas in those days you dealt with the Mob. GulfCoast66 Nov 2019 #18
I heard Trump hated Merv Griffin because he got a casino on the strip and doc03 Nov 2019 #20
That man...wanted FRANK SINATRA to work for scale? forgotmylogin Nov 2019 #21
I saw Frank Sinatra perform live in July 1990. rooboy Nov 2019 #24
Sinatra was... Mike Nelson Nov 2019 #28
Keith Richards & The Stones OneBlueDotBama Nov 2019 #32
This was a big deal. Up to that time, Sinatra was closely associated with rival casino owner, Steve no_hypocrisy Nov 2019 #33
Broken clocks and such. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2019 #34

Maxheader

(4,373 posts)
31. I can't watch it...I'd laugh too hard..
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 07:45 AM
Nov 2019


Ole blue eyes..at one time considered to be a powerful player,,polotics..theater..the mob...
 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
5. I have a new-found respect for Frank Sinatra.
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 11:01 PM
Nov 2019

Even if he was a gangster, he was still smarter and more successful in many ways than Trump.

underpants

(182,788 posts)
30. He was a bag man
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 07:35 AM
Nov 2019

Used to carry a lot of cash to Cuba - Meyer Lansky. Perfect cover.

"Havana Nocturne" by T. J. English. Great read. It parallels Lansky and Castro's stories. Basically the rebels did absolutely nothing right until they ran out of options and decided to go to Havana on New Years Eve. I mean they failed in historic fashion at everything.

Beringia

(4,316 posts)
7. I think they are both cut-throats, but Sinatra had talent
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 11:08 PM
Nov 2019


However, the bulk of Sinatra's net worth--between $200 and $600 mil--was set aside in a living trust enacted before his death. Unlike the will, which is subject to a review in probate court and is therefore a public document, the contents of the trust are confidential. It is known that the children received rights to most of their dad's lucrative music catalog.

https://www.eonline.com/news/36451/sinatra-s-will-averts-family-feud

VOX

(22,976 posts)
8. Francis Albert Sinatra was more "mobbed-up" than Donnie back then.
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 11:16 PM
Nov 2019

Frank could snap his fingers and have someone’s legs broken. That said, he was also a gifted performer, and his vocal artistry exerted a huge influence on multiple generations.

Trump himself has gotten more mobbed-up as the decades passed, but his contribution to society is a massive negative. And it’s sinking faster with every passing day.

SixString

(1,057 posts)
15. You obviously don't understnd the definition of "Could"
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 12:07 AM
Nov 2019

"Frank could snap his fingers and have someone’s legs broken."

Definition of could

past tense of can
—used in auxiliary function in the pastWe found we could go. , in the past conditionalWe said we would go if we could. , and as an alternative to can suggesting less force or certainty or as a polite form in the presentIf you could come, we would be pleased.


Here's a hint.

It doesn't mean "Did".

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
11. The Chairman had more badass in his pinkie than Trump in his entire girth...
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 11:33 PM
Nov 2019

There should be a felony available for people who honestly believe Trump could hold Francis Albert's ashtray!

Norbert

(6,039 posts)
16. He knew gangsters and even worked for them.
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 12:12 AM
Nov 2019

The entertainers that performed in night clubs and casinos back in the day all worked for the mob. They owned the venues and they paid well.

I doubt seriously that Frank ever requested to have someones legs broken.

SixString

(1,057 posts)
17. Sure.
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 12:22 AM
Nov 2019

https://www.maxim.com/entertainment/25-wild-frank-sinatra-facts-his-100th-birthday-2015-12

16. He considered having Woody Allen's legs broken

When 50-year-old Sinatra married 21-year-old Mia Farrow in 1966, Dean Martin quipped,“I’ve got scotch older than her.” Sinatra later stunned Farrow when he served her with divorce papers in front of the cast and crew of Rosemary’s Baby, after she refused to quit the thriller to star in one of his movies. But in the early 1990s, after Farrow was publicly humiliated by Woody Allen's relationship with her adopted daughter, Sinatra asked Farrow if he should hire someone to break the director's legs.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
18. If you performed in Vegas in those days you dealt with the Mob.
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 12:23 AM
Nov 2019

Never heard Sinatra was a member or anything.

But I will forgive many fault from back them for their sense of style! They could dress! Realize they are history to many Americans

Every time I slip on a pair of grey flannel pants with shirt and tie I think of them!

doc03

(35,328 posts)
20. I heard Trump hated Merv Griffin because he got a casino on the strip and
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 12:47 AM
Nov 2019

he couldn't. Also that Trump couldn't get one because of his bankruptcies and mob ties.

forgotmylogin

(7,528 posts)
21. That man...wanted FRANK SINATRA to work for scale?
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 01:55 AM
Nov 2019

Fucking cheap bastard. I mean seriously. Impeach for that. YOU'RE FIRED.

rooboy

(9,446 posts)
24. I saw Frank Sinatra perform live in July 1990.
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 05:21 AM
Nov 2019

He was at the London Arena for one (maybe two) concerts, and tickets were NOT cheap! It was well known at the time that he was getting millions for these concerts because he was very much at the end of his singing career... whenever he travelled to perform, it was assumed these concerts were to be his last. I know that Sinatra came to Australia in 1988 to perform (along with Whitney Houston) at the opening of a major resort owned by a guy just as dodgy as Trump... but it was on Frank's terms or not at all.

Sinatra was great but definitely past his prime by 1990, and I'd imagine most of his mob connections had either died or disappeared.

OneBlueDotBama

(1,384 posts)
32. Keith Richards & The Stones
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 07:50 AM
Nov 2019

Years ago in Atlantic city, Keith & the road crew with hockey sticks, kicked trump out of his casino.

https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/music/news/a43138/keith-richards-knife-donald-trump/

The night the Rolling Stones fired Donald Trump: Keith Richards once pulled a knife to get the GOP-frontrunner out of Atlantic City venue
"One of us is leaving the building," said Keef of the billionaire villain-turned-politician, "either him, or us"

“Keith pulls out his knife and slams it on the table and says, ‘What the hell do I have you for? Do I have to go over there and fire him myself? One of us is leaving the building – either him, or us.’”

“One of two things is going to happen,” Cohl told Trump. “You’re going to leave the building and, at 6:40, The Rolling Stones are going to speak on CBS News, or you’re not going to leave the building and I’m going to go on and do an interview to explain to the world why the pay-per-view was canceled”

Then, while literally telling Donald Trump “You’re fired,” Cohl noticed Trump’s “three shtarkers he’s with, in trench coats, two of them are putting on gloves and the other one is putting on brass knuckles.”

Cohl signaled his head of security, who “got 40 of the crew with tire irons and hockey sticks and screwdrivers,” effectively sending off Trump and his goons.

“And that was the night I fired Donald Trump,” Cohl concluded.

https://www.salon.com/2016/03/17/the_night_the_rolling_stones_fired_donald_trump_keith_richards_once_pulled_a_knife_to_get_the_gop_frontrunner_out_of_atlantic_city_venue/

no_hypocrisy

(46,088 posts)
33. This was a big deal. Up to that time, Sinatra was closely associated with rival casino owner, Steve
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 08:32 AM
Nov 2019

Wynn, of The Golden Nugget. Lots of TV ads with both of them.

If Sinatra was going to look like he was endorsing Trump over Wynn, there had to be big bucks involved.






More on the Wynn/Trump rivalry: http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/bizfinance/biz/features/2235/
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