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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe difference between bribery and extortion:
"the most important difference is between a threat to do harm in extortion and an offer to do good in bribery."
https://criminal.laws.com/bribery/bribery-versus-extortion
pat_k
(9,313 posts)I got curious and poked around. Apparently there is a bit of a legal debate about the difference between bribary and extortion, particularly as it applies to public officials. Specific statutes have somewhat different definitions.
As I poked around, I came across the following "lay" definition of "coercive extortion by a public official" in the THE THEORY, HISTORY, AND PRACTICE OF THE BRIBERY-EXTORTION DISTINCTION
Certainly seems to fit.
Bribery and Coercive Extortion
1. Refining the Lay Definitions
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In my view, coercive extortion by a public official is the seeking
or receiving of a corrupt benefit paid under an implicit or explicit
threat to give the payor worse than fair treatment or to make the
payor worse off than he is now or worse than he expects to be. The
payee is guilty of extortion; the payor is the victim of extortion.
In this case, the "corrupt benefit" to the payee (Trump) is mounting an investigation to smear a political rival. The threat is withholding aid expected under bill passed by Congress ("make the payor worse off than he is now or worse than he expects to be" )
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)which is important because Article 2 explicitly addresses it:
which sheds important light on the Ukraine deal now, 'cause Pence was involved, luckily, when trump sent him to personally lean on Zelensky.
Even more importantly, the definition of "civil officers of the united states" is:
https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/civil+officer
However, it is noted that
However #2.....Federal Judges and Supreme court judges, who are appointed, do seem to be included.
Think on the possibilities of that...................
moondust
(19,955 posts)...you don't get the aid you need to fight the war my boss is waging on you and many more of your people will die"
sounds like a threat to do harm = extortion
It's not an offer of, say, a new car in every garage.
flying_wahini
(6,576 posts)Or I wont break your knee caps if you do what I say . (Bribery) LOL!
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)is extortion too.....it is an implied threat.
Bribery is a win/win concept....I offer you money to do something for me....we both get a reward,
so to speak.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,234 posts)An arsonist keeps trying to burn down your house with your family in it.
Your neighbors give you a hose and turn on the water at their house.
A gangster kinks the hose and tells you he'll let the water through, if you do him a favor.