Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 11:10 AM Nov 2019

Geoff Bennett: Trump on the South Lawn tells reporters that he will release a second transcript



Geoff Bennett ✔ @GeoffRBennett

Trump on the South Lawn tells reporters that he will release a second transcript, @HansNichols reports

10:06 AM - Nov 8, 2019
17 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Geoff Bennett: Trump on the South Lawn tells reporters that he will release a second transcript (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Nov 2019 OP
Ah, a second Turbineguy Nov 2019 #1
In sharpie? C_U_L8R Nov 2019 #2
LOL! No matter what that clown releases, it will be bullshit. fleur-de-lisa Nov 2019 #17
What? Didn't he do enough harm to himself with the first one? MineralMan Nov 2019 #3
There hasn't been a first transcript yet. Solomon Nov 2019 #5
But he keeps calling it that, doesn't he? MineralMan Nov 2019 #7
It will be one edited by his legal team NewJeffCT Nov 2019 #4
IT. IS. NOT. A. TRANSCRIPT. awesomerwb1 Nov 2019 #6
A second transcript? I thought the first one was the real one and blueinredohio Nov 2019 #8
If I heard him correctly, it's about a second phone call to Zelinsky Wednesdays Nov 2019 #14
The Don: "I also want you to say there was no quid pro quo before I release the funds" struggle4progress Nov 2019 #9
Good job! oswaldactedalone Nov 2019 #12
Written with a Sharpie, maybe? The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #10
God, I hope this one Stephen King writes! 😂 TheBlackAdder Nov 2019 #11
Make him release the entire or hw WILL again redact/edit/manipulate it. skip fox Nov 2019 #13
Unless I misheard, it's a transcript of another call Wednesdays Nov 2019 #15
Another selective fantasy tale? keithbvadu2 Nov 2019 #16

MineralMan

(146,281 posts)
7. But he keeps calling it that, doesn't he?
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 11:18 AM
Nov 2019

It's a summary, of course, but it includes the damning extortion language. Trump's not a very bright man, withal.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
4. It will be one edited by his legal team
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 11:15 AM
Nov 2019

and Billy Barr

Otherwise, it will be just like his claim that he has tapes of Jim Comey in his office or photos of Comey kissing and hugging Mueller - farcically bad lies.

blueinredohio

(6,797 posts)
8. A second transcript? I thought the first one was the real one and
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 11:18 AM
Nov 2019

it was the "whole" transcript. Just a little sarcasm.

Wednesdays

(17,331 posts)
14. If I heard him correctly, it's about a second phone call to Zelinsky
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 11:53 AM
Nov 2019

More precisely, another phone call that took place before the one on July 25.

struggle4progress

(118,268 posts)
9. The Don: "I also want you to say there was no quid pro quo before I release the funds"
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 11:21 AM
Nov 2019

Zelensky: "Of course! No problem!"
The Don: "Can I put that in my complete and accurate transcript of our perfect conversation ?"
Zelensky: "Of course! No problem!"
The Don: "And inaudible?"
Zelensky: "Of course! No problem!"
The Don: "We inaudible also inaudible."
Zelensky: "Of course! No problem!"
The Don: "You won't mind making a campaign ad for me in which you tell everyone that this was a perfect phone call?"
Zelensky: "Of course! No problem!"
The Don: "And inaudible?"
Zelensky: "Of course! No problem!"
The Don: "Finally I'd like it if you went on Alex Jones show to tell everybody this is a complete and accurate transcript"
Zelensky: "Of course! No problem!"
The Don: "Oh! And inaudible also inaudible?"
Zelensky: "Of course! No problem!"

skip fox

(19,356 posts)
13. Make him release the entire or hw WILL again redact/edit/manipulate it.
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 11:37 AM
Nov 2019

In fact, the Dems should subpoena the full transcript of the original MEMORANDUM "transcript" which was a highly redacted summary of the Ukrainian call, likely cutting out explicit references to quid pro quo. For weeks Trump and his supporters have either explicitly or implicitly represented the partial transcript as a full, word-for-word transcript which means, of course, the argument for subpoena is substantial.

An entire article in The New York Times (10.30.19) based on Lt. Col. Alexander S. Vindman's testimony makes this point directly:

"Lt. Col. Alexander S. Vindmanthe top Ukraine expert on the National
Security Council, told House impeachment investigators on Tuesday that
the White House transcript of a July call between President Trump and
Ukraine’s president omitted crucial words and phrases, and that his attempts
to include them failed, according to three people familiar with the testimony.

The omissions, Colonel Vindman said, included Mr. Trump’s assertion that
there were recordings of former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. discussing
Ukraine corruption, and an explicit mention by Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr
Zelensky, of Burisma Holdings, the energy company whose board employed
Mr. Biden’s son Hunter."


But the President and his supporters have directly stated that the transcript we were given covered the entire call as reported by CNN:

“. . . Trump himself has repeatedly insisted that the transcript released
by his White House was absolutely exact.

Twice in a press conference earlier this month, Trump went out of his way
to say the rough transcript was, in fact, a verbatim recounting of his call
with Zelensky. "I had a transcript done by very, very talented people --
word for word, comma for comma," said Trump at one point in that
early October news conference. "Done by people that do it for a living.
We had an exact transcript." Later, he added that the document was
‘an exact transcript of my call, done by very talented people that do this
-- exact, word for word.’”

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/30/politics/donald-trump-transcript-ukraine/index.html

There are literally dozens of other examples.

Wednesdays

(17,331 posts)
15. Unless I misheard, it's a transcript of another call
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 11:55 AM
Nov 2019

that took place before the July 25 call. Not a second transcript of the July 25th call.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Geoff Bennett: Trump on t...