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Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 05:14 PM Nov 2019

"I've sat and listened in uncomfortable silence..." -Anonymous

And that's the problem. You sat in silence. After going to work for someone you already knew was an ignoramous, narcissist, racist, sexist, xenophobe, rapist, fraud, tax cheat, habitual liar and then some.

You, Anonymous, are most all of those things, too. That is the only conclusion one can reach.

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LonePirate

(13,414 posts)
2. They were in a position to say or do something and instead they chose silence. Ignore this person.
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 06:14 PM
Nov 2019

Do not buy the book. Do not give any clicks, time or dollars to anything pushing the (fictional?) words of this alleged insider. Let them truly wallow in their anonymity.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
5. And they knew who they were going to work for. They support the vision. They just wish...
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 11:12 PM
Nov 2019

...Trump was more competent at helping to realize the vision.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
3. I agree.
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 06:46 PM
Nov 2019

If that person was serious, he would attach his name to the book, then fight it out with critics.

Why is it that the Press works it's ass off to out undisclosed people when what those people say is helpful to democrats, but go mute when serious accusations are being lodged against republicans?

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
7. There will be 2 primary right wing narratives if Trump is removed from office. Both are dangerous.
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 11:34 PM
Nov 2019

Members of the media, right wingers and, sadly, some on the left end of the political spectrum will inevitably push one of the following narratives:

1) Trump was a victim of the Deep State, evil Democrats and RINOs. That's what we'll hear from the likes of Gaetz.

2) Something akin to, "Republicans put country over party and did the right thing. Trump had gone too far and nobody is above the law. Everything is back to normal now and most Republicans are honorable civil servants."

There will also be some who sort of meld those narratives.

Both narratives are dangerous. Whether or not either narrative dominates depends largely on how Democrats respond. Democrats will need to be vigilant in pushing back against those arguments. Trumpism, though we didn't call it that before Trump, is what made Trump possible, and not the other way around. Democrats and honest members of the media should make it crystal clear that 50+ years of increasingly cruel and unhinged rhetoric and policy created a monster (this is something the Never Trumpers continue to deny). That monster is the Republican Party and its base, as a whole. Trump is a symptom (i.e., he didn't happen in a vacuum) and Trumpism will live on after Trump. The GOP is not filled with people who simply have a different take on the role of government. It is filled with people who foment and exploit racism, sexism, xenophobia and a general ignorance. It is filled with people who have been actively working to undermine all democratic institutions. It is filled, quite simply, with horrible people.

Lastly, if (big *IF*) Republicans remove Trump (by conviction or by talking him into resigning), it will be an act of self-preservation and nothing more. None of this "they did the right thing/put country over party/stood up for the law" bullshit. That party is ethically bankrupt. Period.

NCLefty

(3,678 posts)
9. I've think #2 is how Pence takes over. "Everything is fine now. Let's move forward & pretend nothing
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 11:46 PM
Nov 2019

happened."

crickets

(25,960 posts)
10. Cannot agree more.
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 12:22 AM
Nov 2019

The "let's move on so the nation can heal" BS they got away with after Nixon resigned and was pardoned cannot be allowed to stand again. Not this time.

NCLefty

(3,678 posts)
6. If all the people who WOULD rat on him left and he filled those spots with puppets, we'd never find
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 11:30 PM
Nov 2019

this stuff out.

I'm not going to attribute nobility to this person--absent a lot more information--but what I outlined above IS the alternative. And they may yet reveal something big, something that hasn't happened yet.

Thusly, I'm not going to pile on them... for now. :p

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
11. The numerous officials who allegedly considered resigning en masse should have done so and then...
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 02:03 PM
Nov 2019

...they should have held a joint news conference to say the nation is in grave danger, while laying out all of the reasons why.

That likely would have ended the Trump presidency almost immediately.

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