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kpete

(71,961 posts) Fri Nov 8, 2019, 05:40 PM Nov 2019

Bill Barr MUST have known this.

And yet he hasn't recused and someone at DOJ decided only to review the call transcript w/Zelensky, and not the underlying complaint mentioning Parnas and Fruman.

NEWS: Months before Trump asked Zelensky to investigate the Bidens & election interference, Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman—both Giuliani clients—urged then-Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko to announce those investigations in return for a state visit to DC.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/giuliani-associates-urged-ukraines-prior-president-to-open-biden-election-probes-11573247707 …

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Bill Barr MUST have known this. (Original Post) kpete Nov 2019 OP

Interesting. kentuck Nov 2019 #1

Is the Ukrainian parliament doing anything about Zelensky? TheRealNorth Nov 2019 #2

What real choice did he have? With the shadow of Putin dewsgirl Nov 2019 #3

I agree with you. OnDoutside Nov 2019 #4

I think his excuses are horseshit TheRealNorth Nov 2019 #7

I think his heart may be in the right place, but he is in an dewsgirl Nov 2019 #8

Kick Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2019 #5

The con attempt spans more than one Ukraine admin. Interesting. crickets Nov 2019 #6

kentuck

(111,052 posts)

1. Interesting.

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 05:46 PM

Nov 2019

They were working on this "political" hit-job on Biden, even before Zelensky won election. They were withholding the funds from that government also.

TheRealNorth

(9,470 posts)

2. Is the Ukrainian parliament doing anything about Zelensky?

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 06:25 PM

Nov 2019

For someone who ran on anti-corruption, it serms he was more ready to engage in Trump's corruption than his predecessor, Poroschenko

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)

3. What real choice did he have? With the shadow of Putin

Reply to TheRealNorth (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 06:49 PM

Nov 2019

there just waiting to invade.

OnDoutside

(19,948 posts)

4. I agree with you.

Reply to dewsgirl (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 08:12 PM

Nov 2019

TheRealNorth

(9,470 posts)

7. I think his excuses are horseshit

Reply to dewsgirl (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 13, 2019, 02:10 PM

Nov 2019

He was preparing to go on to CNN to damage Biden on Trump's behalf. The truth of the matter is that Trump forced his to choose a side, and he chose it.

Essentially Zelensky is another Yanukovich, except that instead of being a Putin lackey directly, there is a degree of separation with Trump sitting in-between, so he can appear to the Ukrainian public to not be taking his orders from Moscow.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)

8. I think his heart may be in the right place, but he is in an

Reply to TheRealNorth (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 13, 2019, 02:16 PM

Nov 2019

Impossible situation.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,738 posts)

5. Kick

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 08:57 PM

Nov 2019

crickets

(25,951 posts)

6. The con attempt spans more than one Ukraine admin. Interesting.

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 10:11 PM

Nov 2019

Oh, look Heckle and Jeckle were involved in this from way back...

Jokes aside, they are all in it up to their necks. Barr, Giuliani, Pompeo, any of them claiming not to have realized what was going on or who was involved, or that it was WRONG are such blatant liars. They have really screwed over Ukraine, in our names. It's awful.

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