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Wednesdays

(17,463 posts)
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 12:30 PM Nov 2019

Republicans won't concede: They react to sweeping losses by attacking democracy

Matt Bevin hopes the Kentucky legislature will just appoint him governor: One more sign Republicans hate democracy

SOPHIA TESFAYE
NOVEMBER 8, 2019 11:00AM (UTC)

Republicans, led by President Trump, have been a united chorus of cries that any impeachment inquiry is meant to overturn the results of an election. But as they’ve suffered sweeping statewide and local electoral losses in the Trump era, they’ve grown increasingly unconstrained in their efforts to overturn unfavorable election results by attacking the democratic process.

Election integrity and transparency are two things that should engender bipartisan support. But it has been a long time since the GOP viewed democracy as anything like an ideal to be upheld rather than a system to be gamed in order to consolidate power. Their reaction to recent election losses, while hardly stunning, still manages to push the barriers of what a healthy democracy can reasonably accommodate.

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In Pennsylvania, where Republicans took a history-making shellacking in the all-important Philadelphia suburbs, the Republican Party is now threatening to sue the state. The GOP claims that delays in voting in some areas caused long lines that forced people to leave the polls in frustration before casting ballots. Republicans blame the state’s Democratic governor for approving a switch to paper ballots over digital machines, a change meant to prevent hacking concerns.

A few thousand miles southwest, the chair of Arizona's Republican Party, Kelli Ward, apparently aghast at seeing Democrats flip both houses of the Virginia state legislature to take control of all three branches of government for the first time in 25 years, actually floated a state-level electoral college scheme.

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https://www.salon.com/2019/11/08/republicans-wont-concede-they-react-to-sweeping-losses-by-attacking-democracy/

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Republicans won't concede: They react to sweeping losses by attacking democracy (Original Post) Wednesdays Nov 2019 OP
The new GOP, the tRump Cult, is like an invasion force, not giving a damn about the country other RKP5637 Nov 2019 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2019 #2
Yes, it should really be renamed "The Sociopath Party." n/t RKP5637 Nov 2019 #4
Cheaters always assume they've been cheated against when they lose. Beartracks Nov 2019 #3
They only ever favored representative government while it represented them. CrispyQ Nov 2019 #5
My feelings exactly about anyone who still wnylib Nov 2019 #13
Like Brexit, Kentucky, can be a wake-up call, warning and stimulate empedocles Nov 2019 #6
It's only OK for Democrats and black people TheFarseer Nov 2019 #7
Same thing I was thinking. bitterross Nov 2019 #11
"delays in voting caused long lines"" hvn_nbr_2 Nov 2019 #8
I voted in PA Kaiserguy Nov 2019 #9
this is part of their game plan, they no longer support Democracy. nt yaesu Nov 2019 #10
They are a party who flushed any semblance of decency and democracy down the toilet long ago. hadEnuf Nov 2019 #12
This. wnylib Nov 2019 #16
Republican Party is at WAR with anything that stands in their way of Dictatorship bucolic_frolic Nov 2019 #14
Yup. And Dems, stop the purity tests. Any rational adult for President (excludes GOP of course). Evolve Dammit Nov 2019 #23
Ask not what I can do for my country ... Marcuse Nov 2019 #15
But ask instead wnylib Nov 2019 #17
The last gasp effort for life, as opposed to KPN Nov 2019 #18
We can expect the same reaction and tactics wnylib Nov 2019 #19
Beiven's gop colleagues are telling him to get over it and concede Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #20
GOP--Enemy of the People Ponietz Nov 2019 #21
Trump's Skidmore Nov 2019 #22
They just think certain people should have the right to vote. Other than that, democracy is fine Dream Girl Nov 2019 #24
K&R ck4829 Nov 2019 #25
They have no choice... Mike Nelson Nov 2019 #26
Long lines at the polls vlyons Nov 2019 #27

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
1. The new GOP, the tRump Cult, is like an invasion force, not giving a damn about the country other
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 12:38 PM
Nov 2019

than to win and destroy it. They are not even remotely like the old GOP from years ago. In my lifetime the GOP has gone to hell and is likely not coming back. Any even remotely like Dwight Eisenhower would be kicked out of the new GOP.

Response to Wednesdays (Original post)

CrispyQ

(36,557 posts)
5. They only ever favored representative government while it represented them.
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 12:52 PM
Nov 2019

As long as demographics kept (mostly) straight, white Christians in power, representative government was okay. Once uppity women, people of color, & gays started demanding equality & equity in the system, & gained the numbers to enforce it with our votes, then it became time to "shut that whole thing down."

This is why I have no respect for anyone who still identifies with this party. Supporting the GOP is supporting the suppression of other American citizen's vote.

wnylib

(21,756 posts)
13. My feelings exactly about anyone who still
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 01:59 PM
Nov 2019

identifies with this anti democracy party. I used to respect them even when I disagreed with them. But the attitudes and actions of their leaders are so despicable --and obvious -- that there is no excuse for sticking with them other than being equally despicable.

TheFarseer

(9,328 posts)
7. It's only OK for Democrats and black people
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 01:02 PM
Nov 2019

To wait in long lines. White people have jobs they need to get to.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
11. Same thing I was thinking.
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 01:55 PM
Nov 2019

The GOP sure doesn't have any problem with long, long lines in predominantly poor and minority neighborhoods. You know, the ones that are likely to vote for a Democrat.

But hey, when it comes their turn, it sure does sting them.

hvn_nbr_2

(6,492 posts)
8. "delays in voting caused long lines""
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 01:17 PM
Nov 2019

A thousand times Republicans have deliberately caused much worse voting conditions in minority, poor, and young areas. It happens once to Republican voters and they think it's the end of life as we know it. Fuck 'em. Lying hypocrites.

Kaiserguy

(740 posts)
9. I voted in PA
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 01:41 PM
Nov 2019

on the new machines funny but it didn't take me any longer to vote on them than it did on the old machines. Maybe what the real problem is that the new machines are honest and that why the GOP didn't win !

hadEnuf

(2,223 posts)
12. They are a party who flushed any semblance of decency and democracy down the toilet long ago.
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 01:56 PM
Nov 2019

They are now nothing more than power obsessed fascists who will do anything to hold on to that power.

The only thing they need or understand is to be stopped cold politically.

Anything less is a dangerous waste of time.

bucolic_frolic

(43,476 posts)
14. Republican Party is at WAR with anything that stands in their way of Dictatorship
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 02:01 PM
Nov 2019

it's been this way since 1994. Newt. We just have to clobber them in 2020 and the playing field will recover. I mean CLOBBER. Decimate. Trounce.

Evolve Dammit

(16,817 posts)
23. Yup. And Dems, stop the purity tests. Any rational adult for President (excludes GOP of course).
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 02:52 PM
Nov 2019

We need to turn out in record numbers and I do believe it will happen. Everybody: Tell your friends to show up and vote and offer to drive. Take a senior to the polls. Pick up a friend or relative and friend. It's only one day a year (or very 4 in this case). Send a message the world will hear. If we lost this one, the dictator-wanna-be and all his minions will be on steroids compared to what we've been through so far. They only want to destroy it all. Zero plans on helping anyone. That should be crystal clear at this point.

wnylib

(21,756 posts)
17. But ask instead
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 02:13 PM
Nov 2019

"What can I do TO my country." -- to keep it in my control.

But I was saying this about them long before the Trump crime family became the latest front persons for the great Republican power grab.

KPN

(15,677 posts)
18. The last gasp effort for life, as opposed to
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 02:17 PM
Nov 2019

peaceful acceptance and satisfaction with that life, is always desperate.

wnylib

(21,756 posts)
19. We can expect the same reaction and tactics
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 02:23 PM
Nov 2019

next year at this time if Trump is still in office and loses the election.

Fasten your seat belts, tie down your hats, and keep your arms at your sides. This will be a very rough ride for the nation.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
22. Trump's
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 02:51 PM
Nov 2019

prosperity Dominists need to be shamed out of their cult. Church must be removed from government. Trump draws much of his support from these people.

When I lived in Iran, my first husband told me something I've never forgotten. When Khomeini returned, my husband told me to not underestimate the clergy' even the ones with the smallest congregations. The clergy earn their living by wordsmithing about the intangible and invisible. They can bestow power on any event, object, or person that serves their purpose.Their teachings must be discredited for them to lose their grip in the same way that the guy who kept saying that the world was going to end and the dates he gave passed without event.

All of the wealthy people in America do not make up 30% of the population or vote.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
27. Long lines at the polls
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 09:01 AM
Nov 2019

are the result of too few polling places and too few voting stations inside the polling places. Both of which are the result of the stingey GOP strategy to make it harder to vote.

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