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RKP5637

(67,030 posts)
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 11:15 AM Nov 2019

WTF!!! Boy allegedly forced to urinate in front of classroom, made to wear garbage bags

What the hell is going on in some of these supposed schools!!!

https://abcnews.go.com/US/boy-allegedly-forced-urinate-front-classroom-made-wear/story?id=66888410

A lawsuit filed by the parents of an 8-year-old boy alleges that a teacher disallowed their son to use the bathroom and made him pee into a trashcan in front of his classmates before he urinated on himself, soaking his clothes in the process.

The incident happened last November when the boy was attending Manhattan Place Elementary School in South Los Angeles in the Los Angeles Unified School District when he initially approached his teacher to use the bathroom and was told that he was not allowed. He then allegedly approached the teacher a second time and was told to pee in the trashcan, according to ABC News’ Los Angeles station KABC.

“Instead of just letting him go, the teacher told him to urinate in a trashcan that was in the classroom and in front of his classmates,” said the family’s attorney Toni Jaramilla in a press conference last week.

The suit says that he urinated on himself during that process and soaked his clothes and, later that day, went to his after-school enrichment program where the incident was made worse by another employee.

“He went to another teacher to try to receive help and she proceeded to place a garbage bag on him to make an example out of him of what you should not do at school, instead of calling us and saying ‘can you please bring him a change of clothes,’” said the boy’s mother Sonia Mongol at the press conference.

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WTF!!! Boy allegedly forced to urinate in front of classroom, made to wear garbage bags (Original Post) RKP5637 Nov 2019 OP
People really do suck Bettie Nov 2019 #1
I hope the school and the involved teachers get the book thrown at them!!! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2019 #2
There will be a big lawsuit. At least there should be. Ah, I see there is. nt tblue37 Nov 2019 #14
Apparently this poor child didn't tell his parents right away, Hortensis Nov 2019 #3
Yep, the teachers involved definitely do not belong in this environment!!! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2019 #4
The school called police, incidentally jberryhill Nov 2019 #6
Thanks for the additional information!!! RKP5637 Nov 2019 #8
This is where the Charles Mansons, Ted Bundys and Parkland Shooters come from. lpbk2713 Nov 2019 #5
Exactly!!! Crap like this can be severely emotionally devastating, lasting a lifetime and morphing RKP5637 Nov 2019 #7
Yeah, no obamanut2012 Nov 2019 #22
Seems it's more like this is where the Charles Mansons,Ted Bundies and Parkland shooters AJT Nov 2019 #26
There is incompetence in every profession. Teaching is no different. nt UniteFightBack Nov 2019 #9
But the long term effects of teaching children is very different defacto7 Nov 2019 #11
This is cruel and humiliating behavior, not incompetentcy, FFS!! OMGWTF Nov 2019 #15
More educational dollars Turbineguy Nov 2019 #10
We are seriously going to hell. Initech Nov 2019 #12
It's really getting concerning/frightening - crazies coming out all over the place!!! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2019 #13
My 3rd grade teacher would make one of the kids in her class a goat Marthe48 Nov 2019 #16
my son's 3rd grade teacher was the same. barbtries Nov 2019 #25
Happened to me in 4th grade Raine Nov 2019 #31
a faculty full of sadists?? WTF is right. BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2019 #17
Just based on the Mother's last name I would guess this is also a racist issue. flying_wahini Nov 2019 #18
What is wrong with some people? smirkymonkey Nov 2019 #19
Jobs and teaching licenses should go away forever. TNNurse Nov 2019 #20
Where did this teacher get her Scarsdale Nov 2019 #21
Unbelievably cruel karin_sj Nov 2019 #23
Decades of hate radio and blatant lies from Fox are turning people into uncaring monsters. Lonestarblue Nov 2019 #24
Well said!!! Agree very much!!! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2019 #30
How awful... Mike Nelson Nov 2019 #27
When I was in 2nd grade we had a boy who was Turbineguy Nov 2019 #28
Good for the teacher Marthe48 Nov 2019 #37
The Betsy DeVos model of public education. LakeArenal Nov 2019 #29
I went to Catholic school for eight years oswaldactedalone Nov 2019 #32
Horrible!!! Fortunately, I never ran into anything like this, so glad!!! Worst I had that sticks RKP5637 Nov 2019 #33
Sometimes a kid is so disruptive, and teachers have had all authority taken away, that they snap. Doodley Nov 2019 #34
I was wondering about that too. n/t RKP5637 Nov 2019 #35
This child could have a health issue, like diabetes, or pre-diabetes, Ilsa Nov 2019 #36

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
3. Apparently this poor child didn't tell his parents right away,
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 11:25 AM
Nov 2019

unclear when they finally found out, but other students started harassing the boy, and at one point he was transferred to apparently remove him from what had become hostile environment.

Lots of questions to be answered by a too-long-delayed investigation, but it's now on the LAUSD's front burner. I'm guessing those teachers need to be training for another, very different line of work. Maybe computer repair.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
6. The school called police, incidentally
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 11:33 AM
Nov 2019

The school treated this as an incident of child abuse and called law enforcement.

The reason this is in the news now is that the statute of limitations is about to expire, and since the district had not come up with an acceptable figure, the suit was filed and a news conference held.

That’s why you see things like this a year after the fact.

The likelihood of any of the teachers working there still is pretty low. However the school can’t give out personnel or student information.

https://ktla.com/2019/03/11/family-takes-step-toward-suing-lausd-after-8-year-old-allegedly-forced-to-urinate-in-classroom-wear-trash-bags/

A spokesperson for the district said officials alerted law enforcement after the allegation was made and they are cooperating with the investigation. LAUSD is also conducting an administration, the spokesperson said in a statement.

lpbk2713

(42,696 posts)
5. This is where the Charles Mansons, Ted Bundys and Parkland Shooters come from.
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 11:29 AM
Nov 2019


Some teachers don't give any thought to the fact that they are
shaping young minds every day they sit in their classroom.



RKP5637

(67,030 posts)
7. Exactly!!! Crap like this can be severely emotionally devastating, lasting a lifetime and morphing
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 11:35 AM
Nov 2019

development ... "This is where the Charles Mansons, Ted Bundys and Parkland Shooters come from."

AJT

(5,240 posts)
26. Seems it's more like this is where the Charles Mansons,Ted Bundies and Parkland shooters
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 03:00 PM
Nov 2019

come to teach.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
11. But the long term effects of teaching children is very different
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 12:25 PM
Nov 2019

from the long term effects of say, appliance repair.

Initech

(99,909 posts)
12. We are seriously going to hell.
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 12:33 PM
Nov 2019

What is turning people into such insufferable assholes? That teacher should be fired and stripped of their license.

Marthe48

(16,690 posts)
16. My 3rd grade teacher would make one of the kids in her class a goat
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 01:07 PM
Nov 2019

I was the goat in my class. Even though I got a's and b's in the academics, she marked my all of the citizenship columns unsatisfactory for the entire year. She humiliated me in front of the other kids. By the time I left her class, I had a weight problem which has never resolved. Some teachers are horrible people.

I hope the parents get counseling for their son. It is hard to carry that kind of abuse from a trust figure.

barbtries

(28,702 posts)
25. my son's 3rd grade teacher was the same.
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 02:53 PM
Nov 2019

and my son was the goat. the following year another mother wrote a letter about the teacher to the local paper. it took that long for me to realize what had gone on. I am guilty to this day for not realizing that the teacher had a real problem, and my son was a victim and not a bad boy.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
31. Happened to me in 4th grade
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 04:33 PM
Nov 2019

when my parents found out the teacher was bullying me they put me into a private school. My father had to work overtime to be able to pay my tuition but changing schools made all the difference in the world and saved me psychological problems.

flying_wahini

(6,513 posts)
18. Just based on the Mother's last name I would guess this is also a racist issue.
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 01:21 PM
Nov 2019

And I bet the teachers are Republicans. Any bets?
 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
19. What is wrong with some people?
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 01:25 PM
Nov 2019

Don't they have any human compassion at all? Why humiliate a small child like this in front of his peers? It's sadistic and inhumane. Those teachers should be fired.

TNNurse

(6,911 posts)
20. Jobs and teaching licenses should go away forever.
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 01:32 PM
Nov 2019

Also some public humiliation for the teachers is in order.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
21. Where did this teacher get her
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 01:37 PM
Nov 2019

degree - tRump U? Maybe Jerry Fallwell's "low requirement" university?

karin_sj

(805 posts)
23. Unbelievably cruel
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 01:44 PM
Nov 2019

This poor little guy will be scarred for life. These pieces of shit need to go to jail and they & the school needs to be sued. I feel so bad for that poor child.

Lonestarblue

(9,874 posts)
24. Decades of hate radio and blatant lies from Fox are turning people into uncaring monsters.
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 01:48 PM
Nov 2019

Add to that the lack of qualifications of many teachers, and we have incidents like this. We have many, many dedicated, wonderful teachers, and I feel for their stress and the challenges they face every day to teach children in schools and a society that no longer values them. And why is that? In their zeal to eliminate every union in the country so that workers would have to take whatever corporations decided to give them, Republicans deliberately undermined teachers by going after their unions, which mostly endorsed Democratic candidates. They characterized teachers as lazy people who had summers off at taxpayers’ expense. They demonized teachers and schools by evaluating them according to test results, which has led to teaching to the test and rote learning of information just long enough to pass a test.

I would argue that qualified teachers are more important to a free and functioning society than the hordes of lawyers like the ones in Congress defending Donald Trump, but their pay is far, far less. We need to re-professionalize the teaching profession and pay teachers the wages they deserve.

Mike Nelson

(9,903 posts)
27. How awful...
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 03:26 PM
Nov 2019

... to humiliate a kid, and lock him out of the classroom... it's against the law, too. We have had this come up during "lock down" drills and there are ways to handle this situation. These teachers, and substitute teacher, need not only to be fired but also to be prosecuted.

Turbineguy

(37,206 posts)
28. When I was in 2nd grade we had a boy who was
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 03:35 PM
Nov 2019

unable to control his bladder. The kids were ready to make fun of him, but our teacher wasn't having it. After, she was an adult and worked with children.

oswaldactedalone

(3,489 posts)
32. I went to Catholic school for eight years
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 05:47 PM
Nov 2019

and there were six nuns and 2 regular teachers. Our nuns were nutty enough but not mean-spirited. However, our 5th grade teacher was the ugliest and meanest woman I have ever met. Really ugly and mean, I mean like Wicked Witch of the West ugly and mean. Of course, I was the one of the ones she picked on even though I made good grades. For whatever reason, she just didn't like me, possibly because she also either taught or tutored two of my much older brothers.

One day, I asked the same question twice because I didn't understand the information and she actually walked to my desk, picked up my hard-back science book, and hit me on the head with it. I sat there stunned, embarrassed, and hurting. She just seemed to revel in humiliating kids and I remember feeling miserable about going to school with her as my teacher. Back then, even if you told your parents about it, nothing was ever done. What teachers said or did went and there was no discussion about it.

RKP5637

(67,030 posts)
33. Horrible!!! Fortunately, I never ran into anything like this, so glad!!! Worst I had that sticks
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 05:58 PM
Nov 2019

in my mind is my first school dance at night in 7th grade. I was nervous about going/shy. So, I went. Walked in the lobby over to the gym and some fat ass teacher I never liked yells at the top of her lungs. What did your mother do, send you here for us to babysit you? I was humiliated and really pissed. I just ignored her and walked on.

Doodley

(8,976 posts)
34. Sometimes a kid is so disruptive, and teachers have had all authority taken away, that they snap.
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 06:16 PM
Nov 2019

I'm not judging them.

Ilsa

(61,675 posts)
36. This child could have a health issue, like diabetes, or pre-diabetes,
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 06:59 PM
Nov 2019

and doesn't know it yet. Excessive urination is a side effect.

If it had been a girl, you'd also have to consider the possibility of UTI. (Boys can get them too, but they are less likely to have a UTI.)

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