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OMB put a hold on javelin missiles because Mulvaney was concerned Putin wouldn't like it. How cute. (Original Post) triron Nov 2019 OP
If Mick was worried about Putin's reaction, Don Trump must have been terrified. OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2019 #1
Well, of course, Russian wouldn't like it. That's the point. dmr Nov 2019 #2
+ 1. iluvtennis Nov 2019 #18
"I'm worried Russia might not like it if we help Ukraine defend itself against a Russian takeover!" struggle4progress Nov 2019 #3
One day the whole story will be told. madaboutharry Nov 2019 #4
Yes me too bdamomma Nov 2019 #5
I'm sitting here shaking my head . . . . Iliyah Nov 2019 #6
Sure seems the case. triron Nov 2019 #7
It's truly staggering to comprehend the yet unknown level of, well, treason with GOP. Evolve Dammit Nov 2019 #19
The word "bombshell" gets tossed around a lot, but... this must be the biggest OMG in US history! renate Nov 2019 #8
Putin sure did get himself a good one in Trump, didn't he? triron Nov 2019 #9
putin also got a good cabinet... spanone Nov 2019 #10
Obama declined to provide the missiles for the same reason. Imperialism Inc. Nov 2019 #11
Had russia already actively invaded Ukraine at the time of Obama's declination? Volaris Nov 2019 #13
Not the 'same reason'. triron Nov 2019 #22
Jesus H. Christ. gibraltar72 Nov 2019 #12
Putin? Dirty Socialist Nov 2019 #14
As Pelosi told Chump to his face, With you all roads lead to Putin. Hassler Nov 2019 #15
Haven't we fought proxy wars with Russia in the past providing lethal assistance? Pepsidog Nov 2019 #16
MRGA Make Russia Great Again IronLionZion Nov 2019 #17
Wasn't that a part of the national security effort - to stand up (and make a point) to Putin? salin Nov 2019 #20
As tRump is continuously linked to Russia, do not forget that the republican party was there first. WyattKansas Nov 2019 #21
Oh ffs Leghorn21 Nov 2019 #23

OAITW r.2.0

(24,446 posts)
1. If Mick was worried about Putin's reaction, Don Trump must have been terrified.
Mon Nov 11, 2019, 07:14 PM
Nov 2019

Now we are getting to the heart of the matter...Republicans needing to keep Putin happy.

He must be holding a hell of a lot of kompromat on the Organized Crime Party.

dmr

(28,347 posts)
2. Well, of course, Russian wouldn't like it. That's the point.
Mon Nov 11, 2019, 07:14 PM
Nov 2019

The javelins are to the protect Ukraine's people and their land from Russia!

Mulvaney was/is afraid of Donald's wrath.

madaboutharry

(40,203 posts)
4. One day the whole story will be told.
Mon Nov 11, 2019, 07:23 PM
Nov 2019

The story of a treasonous President and a rogue cabal that set out to sell our democracy.

I only hope the truth comes out in my lifetime.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
6. I'm sitting here shaking my head . . . .
Mon Nov 11, 2019, 07:35 PM
Nov 2019

and wonder, how in the hell can Republicans support and protect this administration and shithole?

Then I answer my own question - "cause Republicans are beholding to Russia as well".

Lindsey Graham, Rand Paul, McTurtle, Grassley, et al., AND House Republicans . . .

Evolve Dammit

(16,723 posts)
19. It's truly staggering to comprehend the yet unknown level of, well, treason with GOP.
Mon Nov 11, 2019, 09:45 PM
Nov 2019

How does treason read regarding "enemy" in a hereunto, non-shooting "cold war" with a heavily sanctioned country (dictatorship) and ongoing nuclear rival? Soviet Union yes for decades. Current Russia? If the Congress has been compromised with rubles, coverted to dollars "campaign contributions/ donations" whether overtly or through an intermediary (say NRA) is that not treason as defined; giving "comfort to the enemy" by their pro-quo votes against, or to repeal sanctions, Ukraine aid, etc., etc.?

renate

(13,776 posts)
8. The word "bombshell" gets tossed around a lot, but... this must be the biggest OMG in US history!
Mon Nov 11, 2019, 07:52 PM
Nov 2019

Because Russia wouldn't like it?

RUSSIA?

RUSSIA?

Imperialism Inc.

(2,495 posts)
11. Obama declined to provide the missiles for the same reason.
Mon Nov 11, 2019, 08:08 PM
Nov 2019

Obama was wisely concerned that arming people that might end up in a hot war with our nuclear armed rival Russia, could be seen as an act of war. That's why, while providing lots of other assistance, he opposed "lethal assistance".

None of that changes the fact Trump used that assistance to extort investigations but this stated concern would have been entirely reasonable.

Volaris

(10,269 posts)
13. Had russia already actively invaded Ukraine at the time of Obama's declination?
Mon Nov 11, 2019, 08:53 PM
Nov 2019

I'm asking because absent a shooting war already underway, Obama was correct.

Dirty Socialist

(3,252 posts)
14. Putin?
Mon Nov 11, 2019, 08:58 PM
Nov 2019

You mean the guy that bragged he could knock us out in less than five minutes, then had the TV network put up a list of US targets? That guy?

salin

(48,955 posts)
20. Wasn't that a part of the national security effort - to stand up (and make a point) to Putin?
Mon Nov 11, 2019, 10:00 PM
Nov 2019

That there would be an adverse reaction efforts to take territory in Europe for the first time since WWII?

Isn't this the crux of how Trump, and his sycophants, are acting in counter to the best interest of the country?

Ya, I know, I am preaching to the choir.

WyattKansas

(1,648 posts)
21. As tRump is continuously linked to Russia, do not forget that the republican party was there first.
Mon Nov 11, 2019, 10:08 PM
Nov 2019

The reason the Republican Party keeps protecting tRump is because the republicans themselves are shackled to Putin. The only corruption republicans keep spewing about, is their corrupted links to Mother Russia. That is why they are so eager to project their corruption onto Dems.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
23. Oh ffs
Mon Nov 11, 2019, 10:55 PM
Nov 2019

Hey Mick, I despise you even more than I did 60 seconds ago

I hope all your overlords toss your ass from the castle with a great thrust that causes you terrible pain and remorse.

And that’s just for starters.

Fuck right off

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