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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDrump's constant use of the term "Perfect"
I haven't seen anything on the subject of the use of this term that may apply beyond what we may understand and it is sort of scary.
Perfection and Perfect are terms and concepts held very strongly in the Evangelical world and in many Christian beliefs.
Simply; things that are "Perfect" are the Bible and Christ, etc.
There are a couple of links that describe this: Not that you need to read up on the subject but it may emphasize my point
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_perfection
https://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionaries/bakers-evangelical-dictionary/perfect-perfection.html
That point is---The word "Perfect" and it's frequency of use by Drump in many areas, not just the Ukraine phone call, is another one of his code words to his followers. This is truly along the cult lines and rings many evangelical (not just them) bells. He even fully capitalizes the word PERFECT to emphasize this connection. He is deliberately drawing a comparison of himself with Christ.
Something to be aware of, esp, when dealing with his cult followers.
patricia92243
(12,595 posts)SonofDonald
(2,050 posts)Many people are saying it
The low information types it seems
TheBlackAdder
(28,184 posts)marked50
(1,366 posts)he uses hand gestures as signals to his most disgusting supporters.
OAITW r.2.0
(24,455 posts)Trump ain't no evangelical who has ever meditated on the word "perfect" wrt to Christian theology.
He used that word on his initial description of the phone call and it will remain "perfect" in all future Trump descriptions about this phone call. Phone call was perfect....easy for Trump to remember.
I've never heard anyone refer to a phone call as "perfect" . Good, encouraging, constructive, breakthrough, etc. Never, ever "perfect".
Moostache
(9,895 posts)He wanted to express "appropriate" or even "procedural", but then his idiot mind got stuck in a loop and thinking that "OK" was just not strong enough to defend himself, it was the only thing that came to his empty little head though...but he then got stuck in another loop of trying to think a of word better than "OK" and all he could come up with was "perfect".
I loathe him with every single fiber of my being and for his 'fans', yes I DO look down on you, I DO believe that you are idiots and inbreds and I DO NOT want you around, at all.
TwilightZone
(25,467 posts)I'm not sure it goes any deeper than that, pun intended.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)Thus: "perfect" ad nauseum.
tblue37
(65,336 posts)the inappropriate persistence or repetition of a thought or action after the causative stimulus has ceased or in response to different stimuli; for example, a patient answers a question correctly but incorrectly gives the same answer to succeeding questions. Perseveration is most often associated with brain lesions but is also seen in schizophrenia.
Perseveration is particularly common with those who have had traumatic brain injury.
Perseveration is sometimes a feature of frontal lobe lesions, and of other conditions involving dysfunction or dysregulation within the frontal lobe. This is especially true when the lateral orbitofrontal cortex or inferior prefrontal convexity (Brodmann areas 47/12) are affected.
Perseveration is also sometimes seen as a symptom of aphasia.
Berlin Expat
(950 posts)the hypothesis that Trump may well be suffering from frontotemporal dementia.
tblue37
(65,336 posts)maxsolomon
(33,310 posts)At heart, he's a Patent Medicine huckster. He speaks the language of his marks; simple, punchy, repetitive.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)the more he is challenged on his behavior the more he accuses others of doing the same thing, or worse because that is what he would do.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Netflix has a good documentary about them. Its not a real family, its a bunch of politicians who think god has made them super special. They think Trump is hand picked by god.
marked50
(1,366 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)Gag!
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)Of words. It was quite interesting, he uses these keys words and then they become basically irrelevant. Such as coup and fake news.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)Putin's programming.
No real beliefs, passions, empathy, emotions, etc. just an empty vessel there for the taking, couple that with possible pre dementia, likely amphetamine addiction, sociopathic/narcissistic personality disorder, we are in real danger.
DeminPennswoods
(15,278 posts)in Trumpspeak.
mopinko
(70,086 posts)NCLefty
(3,678 posts)"No collusion."
"Read the transcript!"
"Perfect call!"
Buns_of_Fire
(17,175 posts)azureblue
(2,146 posts)The years of snorting adderol and UK sudafed have fried his brain. He is a burnt out meth head.
Tanuki
(14,918 posts)Aristus
(66,319 posts)and his being a huckster.
If he wasn't born into wealth, he'd be a cheap carny barking his life away on some forlorn fairground somewhere.
RobinA
(9,888 posts)He uses "beautiful" often and oddly. I'd love to know where he picked that usage up.
jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)3catwoman3
(23,973 posts)...under a bridge somewhere.
Apollo Zeus
(251 posts)"Yuge, bigly, perfect..." all of those words and would-be words. Just part of his non-stop braggadoious salesmanship.
Trump is an atheist. OTOH if Pence was using that word....
kentuck
(111,079 posts)It is "perfect" if there is not enough evidence to call it a crime, in his opinion,
wnylib
(21,433 posts)but my take on "perfect" re the phone call is an organized crime perspective. A self incrimination actually, except that he stops short of a full explanation of why the call is perfect. A full explanation would be, in a tone of indignation, "Whadya mean it was improper? It was perfect. He (Zelensky) got my drift, ya know, and I didn't have ta say nothin' bout no quid pro quo. Nothin ta give me away. Perfect call." And to himself he wonders, "Damn, how did they figure it out just from the call when I was so careful about how I put the squeeze
on Zelinsky?"
MarcA
(2,195 posts)Just like his use of "beautiful" and "wonderful". It's his expression of getting
away with something; a con, a crime.
wnylib
(21,433 posts)Adam Schiff has a similar perspective on it.
Caliman73
(11,730 posts)No offense intended at all. Your post shows that you are thoughtful, but you may be giving Trump much more credit than he deserves. I seriously doubt that he would know the significance of the concept of "perfection" in the religious sense and I will give 3 reasons for my argument.
1. Trump is not religious, at all. Doesn't care for it, has never been active in religious study or practice. He wouldn't know the religious connotation of "perfection" on his own.
2. Trump is not articulate. He has a tendency to use words over and over again, even if they are not contextually accurate. He likely knows what "perfect" means in a conversational sense and he chose the word and continues to say it. Seth Meyers, the late night host was discussing this the other day. He was either given or possibly heard the word, "foisted" recently (although he says it as, "foistered" in discussing the Mueller investigation.
3. Trump is incurious and lacks the attention span to really understand things. If the new "anonymous" book is to be believed (though we have heard from different sources) Trump's briefings have had to be paired down from several, to three, to one, to one short item with graphic heavy explanations. So again, it wouldn't be something Trump is doing purposefully.
That is not to say that he wasn't fed the word by someone who may want it out there as code. A lot of Trump followers tend to think that he is saying things that are significant. Perhaps I am the one underestimating him, though from everything observable in the last few years, I would have to say that it is likely just that he heard the word, likes it, and has it in his repository of adjectives, like when he says, "like a dog" for everything bad.
Orrex
(63,203 posts)dalton99a
(81,455 posts)nykym
(3,063 posts)A perfect example of extortion and bribery.
spanone
(135,827 posts)Butterflylady
(3,542 posts)He most likely is referring to himself. He sees himself as perfect.
Cha
(297,154 posts)******* idiot.
Ms. Toad
(34,065 posts)He uses them over and over again - and when he gets one associated with a concept he can't shake it loose. He also randomly capitalizes words and, again, once he does this it gets stuck and repeats itself.
You're overthinking this.