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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 12:55 PM Nov 2019

FFS...Trump did not have to RECEIVE ANYTHING to be guilty of extortion, bribery, QPQ, etc...

...he's re-tweeting loathsome Fox News ball sack Jesse Watters, hammering the same talking point that Nikki Haley and others are carrying for him:

"If he didn't receive anything and Ukraine got their funds, NO CRIME!"

The crime is in his ASKING. When he said "I need a favor THOUGH," THAT was the crime. He asked for it. Asking for it is the abuse of power. The fact that he didn't get what he asked for doesn't wipe the slate clean.

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FFS...Trump did not have to RECEIVE ANYTHING to be guilty of extortion, bribery, QPQ, etc... (Original Post) Miles Archer Nov 2019 OP
I'd like to know how, in Fox world... jberryhill Nov 2019 #1
The underage sex sting is the perfect analogy. 5X Nov 2019 #4
Agreed - Most Apt And Irrefutable corbettkroehler Nov 2019 #5
He almost got away with it C_U_L8R Nov 2019 #2
It's attempted extortion. subterranean Nov 2019 #3
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
1. I'd like to know how, in Fox world...
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 12:57 PM
Nov 2019

...do people possibly get arrested for soliciting prostitution, when it is really an undercover cop.

No money changes hands, and nobody gets laid, so what's the problem?

Same deal with underage sex stings. "There was no 14 year old girl, so it's all cool."

subterranean

(3,427 posts)
3. It's attempted extortion.
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 01:16 PM
Nov 2019

If I try to rob a bank, but leave without getting any money, I'd still be guilty of attempted robbery.

If you try to bribe a police officer to get out of a traffic ticket, it's still a crime even if the officer doesn't take the bribe.

If a boss threatens to withhold a promotion unless his subordinate performs sexual favors, it's still sexual harassment even if the subordinate rejects him and ends up getting the promotion.

There are many other examples that could illustrate the point.

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