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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 02:38 PM Nov 2019

Seth Abramson: Breaking from Stone Trial-New impeachable offense/felony by Trump revealed



Seth Abramson ✔ @SethAbramson

MAJOR BREAKING NEWS: Roger Stone's Trial Has Just Revealed a New Impeachable Offense and Federal Felony Committed by President Trump: Perjury for Lying Under Oath During the Mueller Investigation About His Access to Kremlin Cut-Out/Hostile Nonstate Intelligence Service WikiLeaks

The Hill ✔ @thehill

#BREAKING: Rick Gates testifies that Roger Stone gave Trump campaign updates on WikiLeaks hack http://hill.cm/0dq3w1x

1:23 PM - Nov 12, 2019


looking for addl sources.

Here's the Hill article:
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/470046-former-trump-campaign-official-testifies-stone-gave-updates-on

BY HARPER NEIDIG - 11/12/19 11:14 AM EST

President Trump's former deputy campaign manager told a jury on Tuesday that Roger Stone was giving the campaign updates on WikiLeaks's plans to release damaging emails stolen from the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's campaign chairman.

Richard Gates, who is facing up to ten years in prison under a plea agreement for various fraud charges, testified in Stone's criminal trial on Tuesday, saying that the longtime Trump associate was telling the campaign about WikiLeaks's plans as early as April 2016, months before the DNC had announced it was hacked.

It had not been previously known that Stone was updating the campaign about WikiLeaks that early.

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On June 13, 2016, Stone said in an email to Gates, "Need guidance on many things. call me," according to evidence presented by prosecutors. The day before, Julian Assange, the leader and founder of WikiLeaks, had hinted in a media interview that he was planning to release Hillary Clinton emails.

On June 14, Stone talked with Trump on the phone and the next day sent another email to Gates saying, “I need contact info for Jared” Kushner, Trump's son-in-law and top adviser.

<snip>

A little over a week after WikiLeaks released the trove of DNC emails on July 22, 2016, Stone had a phone conversation with Trump. Gates told the jury on Tuesday that the candidate "indicated that more information would be coming” after speaking with Stone.

That's similar to what Trump's former attorney Michael Cohen, who's currently serving a three-year prison sentence, told Congress in February. He indicated that Stone had led the campaign to believe he was speaking directly with Assange.

"Mr. Stone told Mr. Trump that he had just gotten off the phone with Julian Assange and that Mr. Assange told Mr. Stone that, within a couple of days, there would be a massive dump of emails that would damage Hillary Clinton’s campaign," Cohen told Congress. "Mr. Trump responded by stating to the effect of 'wouldn’t that be great.'”

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Seth Abramson: Breaking from Stone Trial-New impeachable offense/felony by Trump revealed (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Nov 2019 OP
The cast of shady characters involved with Trump is so large that I find I occasionally have to Arkansas Granny Nov 2019 #1
It didn't actually rub off on the Dump. llmart Nov 2019 #5
Trump was never put under oath rusty fender Nov 2019 #2
He was in his written testimony. OliverQ Nov 2019 #3
It matters not. H2O Man Nov 2019 #6
There is no chance Trump will be charged with Perjury after he leaves offfice ritapria Nov 2019 #8
How do you figure Linda Ed Nov 2019 #16
Reading chicken entrails and tea leaves ain't objective analysis. LanternWaste Nov 2019 #17
Chicken Entrails ? ritapria Nov 2019 #19
Busted! Love it, and the timing couldn't be better. nt crickets Nov 2019 #4
Will democrats do anything with this though? triron Nov 2019 #7
They could add it to articles of impeachment NewJeffCT Nov 2019 #12
They should, but even if they don't crickets Nov 2019 #13
Trump said he had no recollection of these events neohippie Nov 2019 #9
Stone looks like an elderly John Steed in that hat. louis-t Nov 2019 #10
And without the hat he looks like Zippy The Pinhead. lagomorph777 Nov 2019 #11
OMG! MontanaMama Nov 2019 #14
omg Zippy! Hilarious! I haven't seen Zippy the Pinhead in years. Love it. nt crickets Nov 2019 #15
You take that back!! 😉 Fritz Walter Nov 2019 #18

Arkansas Granny

(31,513 posts)
1. The cast of shady characters involved with Trump is so large that I find I occasionally have to
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 02:56 PM
Nov 2019

do an online search to remind me of who they are. There is no way that a person can rub shoulders with so many criminals and not have some of it rub off on you. There is not a doubt in my mind that Trump has committed impeachable offenses and has broken numerous laws.

I'm not naive enough to believe that enough Republicans in the Senate will vote to impeach Trump, but this investigation has given the 2020 Democratic nominee a lot of ammunition to use in political ads and debates.

llmart

(15,536 posts)
5. It didn't actually rub off on the Dump.
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 03:36 PM
Nov 2019

He's his own special kind of criminal. He attracted other criminals to him.

Also, when and how are they going to go after Kushner? That swarmy punk needs his comeuppance.

 

ritapria

(1,812 posts)
8. There is no chance Trump will be charged with Perjury after he leaves offfice
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 03:44 PM
Nov 2019

His lawyers wrote the answers he gave to Mueller …...Trump "didn't recall" anything ……….The fellow with the " World's Greatest Memory"....Mueller blew it ……...

Linda Ed

(493 posts)
16. How do you figure
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 04:53 PM
Nov 2019

that he won't be charged with perjury when the sucker has told over 13,435 lies while in office and counting?

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
17. Reading chicken entrails and tea leaves ain't objective analysis.
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 04:57 PM
Nov 2019

(and ellipses are only three or four characters, but I get it... grammar is as irrelevant as objective political analyses and their concomitant data-driven conclusions)

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
12. They could add it to articles of impeachment
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 04:25 PM
Nov 2019

otherwise, it would likely need to be referred to the DOJ for criminal prosecution, and we know Barr will laugh at that

crickets

(25,960 posts)
13. They should, but even if they don't
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 04:48 PM
Nov 2019

it is damning evidence regarding Trump's lies and his willingness to cheat in an election. It's out there, another data point to shore up similar charges that are likely to be brought.

neohippie

(1,142 posts)
9. Trump said he had no recollection of these events
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 03:46 PM
Nov 2019

Good luck proving that is a lie, how do you prove what someone remembers, or that this was a lie?

Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
18. You take that back!! 😉
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 04:59 PM
Nov 2019

Even on his worst day, Patrick Macnee showed more class, finesse and charm than this criminal ever did in his entire life!

If you’re talking Ralph Fiennes, well maybe...

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