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oops...THAT was quick... (Original Post) brooklynite Nov 2019 OP
Whoa! Zippy's well and truly fucked. lagomorph777 Nov 2019 #1
Just like Stone himself leftieNanner Nov 2019 #2
It's a roll of the dice gratuitous Nov 2019 #5
I've seen that on TV shows.... DrToast Nov 2019 #9
I hope there isn't a MAGA moron on the jury OliverQ Nov 2019 #3
jury nullification set the Bundys and the Hokoanas free. maxsolomon Nov 2019 #8
He will just get pardoned. We have a mobster in the WH...well, not really, he is WAY too dumb Eliot Rosewater Nov 2019 #4
Can Trump pardon a co-conspirator? crickets Nov 2019 #15
IDK, can he tell anyone he wants to just ignore subpoenas? Apparently he can Eliot Rosewater Nov 2019 #19
Do they have a planted juror? bluestarone Nov 2019 #6
Don't need it SCantiGOP Nov 2019 #11
true bluestarone Nov 2019 #13
+1 uponit7771 Nov 2019 #14
Most Likely oswaldactedalone Nov 2019 #18
Who would willingly put Roger Stone on the witness stand? guillaumeb Nov 2019 #7
Did his lawyer ask the judge to dismiss the charges? Jim__ Nov 2019 #10
Yes, he did. Qutzupalotl Nov 2019 #12
Thanks for the info. It appears the judge disagrees. Jim__ Nov 2019 #16
He expects a trump pardon still_one Nov 2019 #17

leftieNanner

(15,084 posts)
2. Just like Stone himself
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 04:50 PM
Nov 2019

that is BIZARRE!!! No witnesses? Defense rests?

You think he's joining the line for a presidential pardon?

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
5. It's a roll of the dice
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 04:52 PM
Nov 2019

Stone and his attorney feel the government hasn't proved its case against him. They're going to hang it all on a dazzling closing statement that will lay bare all the deficiencies in the government's case, deficiencies that they're only now going to point out. The government lawyers will then have one final opportunity to explain why those deficiencies are not deficiencies or are immaterial to the central questions of fact and law.

DrToast

(6,414 posts)
9. I've seen that on TV shows....
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 05:02 PM
Nov 2019

...but I’ve never heard of it happening in a high profile case like this.

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
3. I hope there isn't a MAGA moron on the jury
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 04:51 PM
Nov 2019

that's going to declare him not guilty on behalf of Trump.

maxsolomon

(33,327 posts)
8. jury nullification set the Bundys and the Hokoanas free.
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 05:01 PM
Nov 2019

up here in the Great PNW.

pretty effective strategy, unfortunately.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
4. He will just get pardoned. We have a mobster in the WH...well, not really, he is WAY too dumb
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 04:52 PM
Nov 2019

to be a mobster but he does work with mobsters on everything.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
19. IDK, can he tell anyone he wants to just ignore subpoenas? Apparently he can
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 07:54 PM
Nov 2019

Can he lie 15,000 times in 3 yrs and still be prez?

Can he commit obstruction of justice dozens of times and have zero repercussion?

I could go on. IDK if he can pardon a co-conspirator, but in the end I dont think we will have courts and laws left to turn to, I think putin has a surprise in store for us and if people dont get their SHIT together and all say

VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO

then we definitely absolutely have no chance of surviving

But good question, who would decide? SC? Nah, only 4 justices on the SC, the other 5 are filthy scum who dont care at ALL about the rule of law or the constitution.

Jim__

(14,075 posts)
10. Did his lawyer ask the judge to dismiss the charges?
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 05:02 PM
Nov 2019

If he expects the jury to think that the state didn't prove its case, he must have asked to judge to dismiss the charges on those grounds. And if the judge refused, that means the judge believes that the prosecution has a legitimate case.

Qutzupalotl

(14,307 posts)
12. Yes, he did.
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 05:18 PM
Nov 2019



Roger Stone moves to dismiss case, says government didn't show he had an intermediary to WikiLeaks, that there was miscommunication & a misunderstanding between Stone & Credico. "Stone is not Nostradamus and he did not have an intermediary feeding him information."
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