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milestogo

(16,829 posts)
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 07:31 PM Nov 2019

Its time for the MSM to step up and serve our democracy.

There will be those who watch hours and hours of testimony - they already know what's been going on.

There will be those who watch Fox news, and they will continue to hear lies and to see Trump and themselves as victims.

But there are also those who watch the other networks, and they will look there for an interpretation of what this is all about. They may only see a clip or two of this historical event on the evening news or on the internet. I hope they get the truth about the impeachment.

Trump will only be removed from office if public support for it exists.

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Its time for the MSM to step up and serve our democracy. (Original Post) milestogo Nov 2019 OP
Why they still support him as he attacks them fir being " fake" news is mind boggling kimbutgar Nov 2019 #1
I think it's a combination of factors. As I wrote yesterday: Garrett78 Nov 2019 #8
Seth Abramson dewsgirl Nov 2019 #2
+1000 milestogo Nov 2019 #5
THIS. crickets Nov 2019 #9
+1 uponit7771 Nov 2019 #10
Heed Seth's warning. But I'm afraid the media will utterly fail. triron Nov 2019 #11
I love the press and have developed a passion for all dewsgirl Nov 2019 #12
Saw a few minutes of Chuckie Todd, don't hold your breath. dem4decades Nov 2019 #3
& PBS, Bill Moyers pushing for Re-Air Impeachment Coverage PrimeTime appalachiablue Nov 2019 #4
Good luck with that. Yeehah Nov 2019 #6
I could turn on Lester Holt tomorrow night at 6:30 Dagstead Bumwood Nov 2019 #7

kimbutgar

(21,060 posts)
1. Why they still support him as he attacks them fir being " fake" news is mind boggling
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 07:42 PM
Nov 2019

You’d think they would push back when he attacks their 1st amendment protections. But they will destroy themselves if they continue kissing his fat a$$.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
8. I think it's a combination of factors. As I wrote yesterday:
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 09:55 PM
Nov 2019

Perhaps because the "liberal media" drum got beat for decades with insufficient pushback or perhaps because of media consolidation in the hands of just a few giant corporations, or perhaps because of a combination of both, far too many mainstream media personalities (I hesitate to use the word 'journalists') are utterly irresponsible. And this poses a massive hurdle for truth and justice. Many factors contributed to Trump becoming president, and the media is one of them. Clinton's email "scandal" was somehow worthy of about the same amount of attention as Trump's openly colluding with a foreign adversary, racism, openly bragging about sexual assault, Trump University scam, mocking a person with a disability, and so on. Meanwhile, we hear very little about how various Trumps have used private email for government business, or about how Trump has given his personal cell phone number to foreign leaders (including, one presumes, Vladimir Putin).

Media personalities, when not devoting time to fluff pieces, have a tendency to foster false equivalencies and seem to think giving equal time to lies and obfuscation somehow constitutes fair reporting. It's as if all statements made on the air are equally valid opinions. It's as if media personalities are scared to demonstrate a bias toward fact-based reality. I was heartened to listen to Jim Himes take Todd to task for going along with Rand Paul's false equivalency, though Himes was far too gentle.

We need a lot more of this. Republicans, for decades, used the media to criticize the media. And it proved highly effective. Every Democrat making a public appearance should take any opportunity to change the narrative about the media itself, and not just the narrative about the issue of the day.

And we need to make media/propaganda literacy (verifying sources, identifying tactics such as the Gish gallop, etc.) mandatory curriculum in every school.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
12. I love the press and have developed a passion for all
Wed Nov 13, 2019, 12:02 AM
Nov 2019

fifth estate related matters. But ultimately, I feel they have failed. All you have to do is check Abramson's Twitter feed. He has been shouting from the rooftops, his feed is a wealth of information and has been for years now. I think the media, likely isn't able to dumb it down enough for the general public. As he has been saying, the Trump Ukraine scandal, is the Russia scandal.

dem4decades

(11,270 posts)
3. Saw a few minutes of Chuckie Todd, don't hold your breath.
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 07:50 PM
Nov 2019

He's still playing both sides need to be represented, as if they're equal.

Dagstead Bumwood

(3,599 posts)
7. I could turn on Lester Holt tomorrow night at 6:30
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 09:54 PM
Nov 2019

and right now I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that I'd see every bit as much screen time for Adam Schiff's measured questioning and discourse as I do Gym Jordan's seething histrionics and criminal enabling. Zero effect on me but the independents/undecideds watching will walk away having seen the MSM's narrative: the whole damn thing is just more Washington dysfunction at work. Fucking criminal it is.

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