*****IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY HEARING THREAD 3**********

[bdamomma]

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[nolabear]

1. Whew! Kent reminds me what America has been--and can be.

He’s laying it right at 45 being a Russian stooge.

[Mike 03]

3. He makes a great impression.

Sounds strong, confident and certain.

[Pacifist Patriot]

7. Powerfully delivered opening statement.

Third generation diplomat? Damn!

[H2O Man]

9. +1

This is powerful!

[BumRushDaShow]

2. Kent is really deeply embracing Ukraine.

[crickets]

4. He's doing a great job of laying out the background

for Ukraine's problems with Russia. Love how he is comparing their situation to the US Revolution.

[BumRushDaShow]

8. I could really hear the passion in his voice.

He is just doing the money quote right now! Does not believe in using Ukraine to investigate a political opponent.

He is now talking about Burisma...

[Mike 03]

5. He draws an analogy between Ukraine's situation and the American Revolution! nt

[flamingdem]

6. That was really well done

[Mike 03]

11. Yes, a beautiful touch!

[Mike 03]

10. By emphasizing Ukraine's vulnerability with respect to Russia he's made an

invincible argument for why interference by Trump and Giuliani was such a serious and un-American crime. It goes against everything we believe in and have historically supported, especially in light of our own origins.

[crickets]

12. +1!

[backtoblue]

15. Yes!

He is laying it out.

[llmart]

20. Giuliani is not looking so good in these statements.

Hope he's sweating bullets.

[dalton99a]

29. Basically Putin is behind the scheme

[bdamomma]

32. all roads lead

to putin.

[BumRushDaShow]

13. Kent is ranting against the attacks on his co-workers!

[BumRushDaShow]

14. Kent done and Taylor up now.

[padah513]

16. A double dose of integrity

[crickets]

17. State Dept has not bothered to provide requested guidance

regarding questions that touch on classified information.

Who is surprised?

[BumRushDaShow]

18. Pompeo had other things to do!

[uponit7771]

19. Pompeo is going down with the rest of them

[cstanleytech]

115. Lets hope alot of them in end up in prison for a few decades at the very least.

I do not mean just in federal either I mean State as well by having the DOJ turn over any evidence of state laws that were broken that way pardon for Trump will not protect all of them.

[Midnightwalk]

22. Expect an attack on both for disclosing material

[hibbing]

21. Taylor is impressive, I'm learning a lot n/t

[nolabear]

23. Connecting those dots. It's chilling that 45 is involved in any of this.

[Midnightwalk]

24. Fascinating details.

Id pay to watch this.

[crickets]

26. Taylor was the first one on the inside to get a picture of what was going on

and to object. His texts re same may have played a big part in saving the country. This man is good people.

I love how his current statement is so passionate, really making the point of how Ukrainian lives have hung in the balance. Trump's games have gotten people killed, and he is making that plain.

[Mike 03]

25. Both of these STRONG opening statements

are going to make it very hard for repubs to attack them without looking like pathetic Russian tools.

[nolabear]

28. Agreed. Every American should be watching this.

It’s a history tutorial.

[Mike 03]

37. Exactly. I doubt many Americans remember or know about the poignant

protests and the deadly consequences. Ukraine wanted to be an EU member.

It's all being tied together and both witnesses are emphasizing how much is at stake.

[BumRushDaShow]

27. Taylor- "My wife strongly disapproved" serving in this role

Invoked Ghouliani.

[Mike 03]

30. Taylor even managed to bring in the shooting down of the Malaysian airliner

by Putin... He's talking about all the Ukrainian soldiers and (protesting) civilians who've given their lives seeking independence and fighting off Russia's invasion. Powerful stuff.

[dalton99a]

38. Great reminder

[H2O Man]

31. Recommended.

This is the America we can and should be.

[bdamomma]

33. I am excusing myself

now if anyone wants to continue with new threads. Thanks

[Mike 03]

39. Thank you for creating the threads!

[maryellen99]

34. I'm shocked that trump and the gop aren't calling Ukraine "The Ukraine" nt

[BumRushDaShow]

35. Taylor now talking about the "irregular channel" with Ghoul...

[Leghorn21]

41. Namin names, baby!!

AMBASSADOR TAYLOR

[Botany]

36. Bill Taylor has Gravitas

Very impressive and detail rich too.

[MerryBlooms]

42. His testimony in just these opening minutes is extraordinary.

[Botany]

45. I am listening in another room and he paints the picture with his voice very nicely

GOP on the committee will only tarnish themselves if they try to go after him.

[MerryBlooms]

57. Nunes opening statement was

impotent. The attempted stalls from the republicans were transparent, desperate, and useless. The republicans are proving there is no defense of the pResident or his actors.

[Botany]

66. But Hillary worked with the Russians in 2016 because of the Steele Dossier & Hunter Biden

I wonder how deeply involved Nunes is in the Russian stuff?

Schiff is so much more skilled as a lawyer and in parliamentary procedures then Nunes
and the other GOP shits.

Taylor is now bringing in Pence.

[MerryBlooms]

75. I just about crapped when he outed pence! lol

[Mike 03]

43. Yes. He'll handle any republican troublemaking without much difficulty.

[Midnightwalk]

40. Taylor is great

Laid out the Russian attacks.

now bridging to not wanting to return because of politicalization. That policy was changing. That Giuliani was interfering.

Zelensky pushed reforms. Anticorruption court. Constitution changed to remove immunity

Saw two parallel policy channels. The formal channel which has bipartisan support

Unaccountable irregular channel, volker, sondland, perry, guiliani, senator Johnson.

[Mike 03]

46. Thanks. He did name Senator Johnson... wow.

Now we know why he did that disastrous, bizarre interview with Chuck Todd.

[sobenji]

118. Johnson should recuse himself in senate trial

But he won’t.

[BumRushDaShow]

44. Taylor now talking about the "conditions" for the Zelinsky meeting.

[Midnightwalk]

47. Irregular channel diverged from established us policy

[BumRushDaShow]

48. Taylor quote-

realized "the irregular channel was running contrary to long-standing US policy".

[crickets]

49. Sondland made a point of seeing that no one was

taking notes or transcribing the call once President Z. joined it.

Interesting. They knew before the call took place that they were doing something very wrong.

[BumRushDaShow]

50. CSAPN3 shot - Nunes looks like he is asleep!

[nolabear]

51. Bolton's going to have to respond.

[hibbing]

52. Bolton in da house n/t

[budkin]

53. There's no way the Republicans can spin this

This is a true bombshell.

[BumRushDaShow]

55. Plus Taylor is pissed

but is controlling it!

[crickets]

58. I noticed that too.

This man is a patriot. He is deeply wounded and revolted by what has been going on.

[BumRushDaShow]

64. It's like he discovered a bunch of inexperienced and uninformed weasels came barreling in

and were trashing the whole operation.

[Midnightwalk]

74. I think some republican representatives

Will be slapped down hard when they start asking bs questions. Taylor is pissed as we all should be

[BumRushDaShow]

79. His whole testimony has been describing his view being a

"WTF is going on here???!!!!!" one.

[uponit7771]

54. Thank God Taylor has a great reading voice, way to bore dis-invested humans (90% of the population)

... is to read with your eyes and head down and show nothing visually.

[a kennedy]

59. Very compelling testimony.......

[uponit7771]

65. +1, it is ! The A and B civic students are riveted the rest of the world has checked out. Adlia ...

... Stevenson was textbook during the UN and set the standard for presenting a shock case before humans.

[nolabear]

56. They're going to have a helluva time undermining this.

I hope he’s this grave and cool all the way through.

[BumRushDaShow]

61. The guy has been with this for a long time.

I don't think he'll divert from his apparently personality!

[uponit7771]

67. +1, Gym Jordan is loosening his belt as we type

[Mike 03]

60. Taylor now recounting how disgusted Bolton became during

the meeting when "the deal" was discussed.

[SummerSnow]

62. So the Ukrainians were being killed daily cause Trump held back

aid to them caus he wanted dirt of Biden. Lock him up

[crickets]

72. +1

[BumRushDaShow]

73. And what was worse

is that the funds would have expired without some kind of congressional action (that Schiff mentioned apparently happened) because they took funding hold action right up to almost the end of the FY (which was September 30).

[bdamomma]

114. Lock him up

for a very long time.

[onecaliberal]

63. Taylor's opening statement is very damning.

[nolabear]

69. Very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very....

[MerryBlooms]

70. The pundits have tried to soften this horror with the quid pro quo language...

This testimony is incredible. Naming all the players, includes vp pence!

[onecaliberal]

117. I love it!

[Botany]

68. We have a Pence sighting!

Is Hadji the whistle blower?

[klook]

71. Yes.

He was clearly in on the scheme.

[BumRushDaShow]

76. Yup - Pence-Zelinsky meeting.

[hibbing]

77. Pence is in da house

This is brutal, Bolton, Pence, the whole lot of these sleazy traitors!

Peace

[Botany]

84. Don't forget Sen. Johnson too. No wonder he was going all bug nutty about these hearings on the ...

... TV machine. And didn't he go to Russia on July 4 2018?

[tenaciousdem]

119. Whistle whistle

I think Bandit is the whistle blower

[Botany]

120. I think Dr. Quest is cheating on Race Bannon aka Mike Pence w/Lindsey Graham

Just saying.

[nolabear]

78. My God. This is just incredible. Second hand info my ass.

The whistleblower is now irrelevant.

[MerryBlooms]

82. Extraordinary! It's way worse than we've been told.

[nolabear]

85. It's clear the Dems have played this very, very carefully.

They know what they’re doing.

[MerryBlooms]

112. Indeed.

[bdamomma]

116. The whistleblower

was the person calling 911, then the police and ambulance. In simple terms.

[BumRushDaShow]

80. And he spits out the Ghoul's name

[PRETZEL]

81. Seems to me it's becoming pretty apparent the Senator Johnson

has more than a bit of explaining to do.

One the one hand, acting in the capacity of a US Senator

And on the other hand, a Trump/Guiliani soldier.

[hibbing]

83. Public statement by Zelensky needed

Taylor is absolutely amazing at laying this offense out. Had to be a public statement by Zelensky, which was already revealed earlier.

Peace

[llmart]

86. Wonder how many times trumpie has said...

"I'm fucked" while watching these opening statements?

[klook]

87. Well, President Trump said it was "not a quid pro quo."

So there you have it — meeting adjourned!

Or so every Republican will try to say all day...

[BumRushDaShow]

88. Taylor- in other words

Drumpf is punching someone but tells witnesses "I'm not punching them you know".

[crickets]

89. Wow, no matter how you spin it,

Trump was extorting the hell out of Ukraine, and President Z. in particular. I need a shower.

[backtoblue]

94. Absolutely

Taylor describes Zelenskiy as doing good things for Ukraine as its president. Trump pinned Zelenskiy into a horrid situation.

[hibbing]

90. Like a business deal

Holy crap, sorry to be spamming this thread, but WOW!

Peace

[Midnightwalk]

91. Trump personally demanded investigation

Saying its not quid pro quo is empty words. Trump knows those are bad words so he denies that. But extortion and bribery doesn’t require a confession

You can tell someone I’m not murdering you and still be committing murder.

[MoonRiver]

92. Taylor's testimony is riveting, and absolutely credible!

Wonder how scums Nunes and Jones are going to attack him. Should be great comedy!

[emmaverybo]

93. Compelling and disturbing narrative. As told by Ambassador Taylor, credible and authoritative.

These fact are inescapable. I love that Taylor is well able to stitch together salient facts, interactions, unfolding events in a coherent story-form and give it deserved color with his own level-headed disgust, frustration, incredulity, and anger at these anti-democratic shenanigans.

What a “recitation!”

[yaesu]

95. Taylor deserves a congressional medal but will just get a tRump shit storm. nt

[BumRushDaShow]

96. Taylor done - Schiff starting his questions.

[uponit7771]

99. I thought there was going to be 45 mins of questions by attorneys not congress critters. The kGOP

... will no doubt start their pole dancing now

[BumRushDaShow]

102. Most of the Democrats are lawyers but I think they can select when to use those other lawyers.

EDIT - their contracted lawyer is NOW on asking questions!

[Midnightwalk]

98. Over heard a cell phone conversation ???

An aid overheard a cell phone conversation with trump? How is that secure?

[uponit7771]

103. It's not, we don't have any security after Trump. The Russians have all the codes and any secrets

... we thought we had.

[nolabear]

104. Secure schmecure. He can do what he wants.

[nolabear]

100. OMG Schiff is brilliant. OUR national security...

Speak to the people, man.

[backtoblue]

101. Suggest a thread 4

Thank you everyone!

[BumRushDaShow]

105. Will try to start one now

[crickets]

108. oops - was posting at same time

hope we didn't cross each other

[BumRushDaShow]

111. I found and posted in yours!!

[crickets]

106. Done. Thread 4 is live.

[BumRushDaShow]

107. Yup just saw it and will continue there

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212681028

[emmaverybo]

109. Taylor has enlarged our sense of what was at stake. Trump played political games with life and

death, with the world order.

[Bayard]

110. EEEKKK!!

Just got here. Power went off this morning, and just came back. I'm assuming something froze in 17 degree temps. My first thought was--I'll miss the hearing!

Will have to look for Kent's and Schiff's opening statements. Sounds like they were quite good. Watching questioning now.

[jayschool2013]

113. Right-wing twitter spin

"Nothing burger!!"
"So they disagreed with our president and now they want to impeach!?!?!?"
"Is it just me or does #AmbassadorTaylor have a "tell" when he lies. Which, in my opinion, is a lot."
#secondhandnews
#impeachmentsham

They're beyond reason.