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[kentuck]

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[abqtommy]

1. We thinking people know who and what tRUMP and the reTHUGS are. We also happen to be in

the majority and given a fair and secure election we will prevail. In spite of whatever dirty tricks and
ratfuckery the Reich Wing brings.

[Kid Berwyn]

2. That's what mattered -- mention Biden, Burisma & Investigation.

Make it match with Solomon, The Hill and Fox.

No investigation needed. The rest is automatic.

[brush]

3. The fact that trump was impeached, even if not removed, will out weigh that and hurt trump's chances

[Beringia]

4. True

[Flaleftist]

5. To some extent, maybe. He didn't want to get impeached for doing it, tough. nt

[mzmolly]

6. Agree. Though, he got less of what he wanted and lots of push-back,

thankfully.

[lunatica]

7. No one has changed their mind by this

The people who believe Trump are MAGATS only. If Trump tells them he has two heads they’d believe him. The rest of the world automatically does NOT believe Trump ever, even when he comes dangerously near to the truth about anything.

The lines in the sand have been drawn for months. There is no crossover.

[lame54]

9. There is an effect...

Reporters keep asking him about it
That takes up his mic time

Same with Hillary's e-mails

[lunatica]

12. It's not the same as Hillary's emails

Everything in politics has changed because of Trump. Sure, a few journalists will ask the gotcha questions, but no one’s mind will be changed.

Soon Biden will be able to refer to Trump as the impeached president if reporters are foolish enough to beat that dead horse.

[lame54]

14. But...

Any Biden message will be put on the back burner as he is forced to address the same question over and over

Just like Hillary's e-mails

[lame54]

8. I'm not for Joe...

But this is not the right way for him to lose

There side is so sleazy

[myohmy2]

10. "It was nothing less than a character assassination thru propaganda."

...then I guess we had better learn how to play the game...

...and play it better...

[Dread Pirate Roberts]

11. Nixon & Muskie redux

The people behind all of this were frightened of Muskie and that's what got him destroyed. They wanted to run against McGovern. Look who they're running against. They bugged offices, they followed people, planted false press leaks, passed fake letters... they canceled Democratic campaign rallies, they investigated Democratic private lives, they planted spies, they stole documents... and now don't tell me that all of this was the work of one Donald Segretti.

[SDJay]

13. The Core of This Isn't New...

Solyndra
Fast and Furious
Jeremiah Wright
Benghaaaaaaazi
Birtherism
Bill Ayers

and even loonier shit like Pizzagate and going back to Vince Foster and beyond.

These are all ridiculous on their face to anyone with a working frontal lobe, but when you talk to members of the Cult of Rubes, all of them will still bring this crap up as though it's actual history.

Dump is just such a dumbfuck that he got caught doing this, unlike the ratfuckers who came up with all this other garbage.

[karynnj]

15. Yes and no

The right wing could have used the tactics used against the Clinton Foundation - where they used a "scholarly" book that intentionally misunderstood various contributions and actions and put everything in the worst possible light. They actually DID put out that book ... and apparently it must not have been seen as enough. They also went further lying about JOE Biden's actions with regards to corruption in Ukraine.

These actions are in line with what the right wing has done for decades.

Where this went differently is having the President threaten (implicitly) the President of an ally to get him to agree there were reasons to investigate Hunter Biden and the ridiculous conspiracy theory that Ukraine, not Russia, interfered in 2016 to help HRC - not him. (I still have heard NO ONE suggest how putting out cherry picked DNC and Podesta emails could possibly be something that HRC wanted done.)

With all this in full view, it is true more people have heard that Hunter Biden had a very profitable job on a board in Ukraine than before. However, they have also heard more clearly that he did nothing illegal. Furthermore, Joe Biden's actions in response which kept to US policy were given FAR more coverage than before. (Joe clearly had trouble speaking about the situation because it involved his son.) This was always going to be a liability, but JB is not the first leader to have relatives that were problems.

Most importantly, it is TRUMP who has been under the magnifying glass - and the sght is not pretty. Consider that even his Republicans are not repeating that is his call is perfect. Members of his team are at each others throats.

So, I think the net impact is that more people know that Hunter Biden is troubled, but more people than that are seeing how totally dysfunctional the President is

[kentuck]

16. I agree that...

...many people see how dysfunctional is this White House.

[kentuck]

17. This may have been better suited for GD Primaries?

I will delete.